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WILLIAM LAMIE: The one that I know of is the Cleveland sept. The Callery•pear tree is the one that Brent Thompson would recommend. He and I talked about the issues regarding the _. Bradford pear tree, and we decided to scratch it from the list. We would still be looking at the non fruit bearing species. The ones that the Liddells saw were of mature stature. I think they were -like three inch caliber, and they were a good fourteen or fifteen feet in height. The Liddells have got probably about a hundred and twenty-two feet of linear tree lawn, so spacing three and four of those particular trees out would probably be most appropriate. -Karen was nice enough to provide me with a copy of the HPC Tree Pilot Survey, which I have in my file and have highlighted. I have gone over this with the Liddells. The Liddells are well aware of the historic district requirements. We did some extensive remodeling at their house two years ago. I did a landscape plan for them on all sides of their. house. We put in some different variety of trees, which were presented to the HPC in the past. I did manage to get the tree permit for this. JOHN OXIAN: How tall did you say the fruit trees were that you mention? WILLIAM LAMIE: Thirty-five to fifty feet, I think is what's typical. The Cleveland select, which is another species of Callery, is thirty-five to forty feet in height, and fifteen to twenty feet in width. . People like the Cleveland select because it is fast growing. The Callery is thirty to fifty feet in height, and twenty to thirty-five feet in inch width. This tree is also a fast growing tree. JOHN OXIAN: How long does this tree live, approximately? WILLIAM LAMIE: I did not ask that question, so I do not have an answer for you. JOHN OXIAN: What bothers me is that the East Wayne Street Liaison Committee had put this into their standards. We didn't put this in there; because, I was on the committee that worked with it, ` and Martha was there too. If the Neighborhood Liaison Committee wants to set aside this part of their standards to allow this type of tree, the two you mentioned to planted, then I am sure the - --- commission, including myself, wouldn't have a problem with this. But, if we open the door and allow these trees to be planted, then the East Wayne Street homeowners will look at the standards and will start calling us about this. So in my opinion, I would table this for one month. I would ask that the home owners talk with the East Wayne Liaison Committee. I would then either get a letter from the committee or have one of them show up. If they say that they are in agreement with this, then fine I don't see anything wrong with it either. Waiting one month later to plant the tree is not going to make a . difference. You are going to have to plant the tree in the fall anyway, because, you are coming to the end of the season for spring planting. WILLIAM LAMIE: I thought some precedence had been set already with this situation. JOHN OXIAN: No, that's why I am saying that I can not vote in favor of this unless you talk to the East Wayne Street Liaison Committee and get them to agree with this. VIRGINIA O'HAIR: I would still have a hard time approving this. Hived in that area and I know �. the house and I really don't think that it is going to be an improvement.