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KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: They are a fashionable tree, because they are big and they are pretty. The downside is they are pollinated by black flies. They have a fragrance that attracts black flies to them, which has a barnyard quality. They are absolutely beautiful placed outside some windows that are not going to be opened. They are very nice to look at; but, you don't want to put them next to an intake vent or a window -you plan on opening. - JOANN SPORLEDER: Arborists say is that the Bradford pear fruit trees have a very short life span, and they consider them a real nuisance. -They say that the street life for these trees is about twenty years. WILLIAM LAMIE: When Karen and I initially talked the trees that they saw at Ginger Valley are in fact Bradford pear, trees. After talking with Brent Thompson, the city forester, I then told the Liddells that there will probably be some concerns about the type of pear tree. The Cleveland and the Callery pear are certainly the preferred pear trees There are a number of them planted in the tree lawns in the immediate area there. The Cleveland pear tree in particular was one that I was able to identify with from one of the ` homeowners there. I do want to scratch Bradford pear tree from the minutes there;.I had just said plant three to four - pear trees. I tried not to be specific purposely in the application. I talked with the Liddells and I explained to them what the forester had said. This tree is considered a twenty year tree. The tree becomes very brittle, and there are some issues with the tree and insects. What I had said to the Liddells is this: I have the addresses of the residences that do have pear trees in their tree lawns. The ones that we were looking at would be the fruitless variety. After talking with the city forester, he had some concerns about some of the trees that were on the HPC's recommended list, especially the addendum to the 1993 Historic Tree pilot survey. They are the American ash, the American chestnut, and the American elm. It is my understanding that he did not think that the immediate tree lawns were appropriate for these types of trees. Now, we can go up and down the street and we can find various trees. However, you are not going to find any American elm trees, and very few American ash trees. You will find a lot of Silver maple trees and some oak trees. - - -- -- KAREN HAMMOND NASH: There have been some American elm trees planted as part of a restoration program in the city. •There is one at 1507 East Wayne Street in the tree lawn. WILLIAM LAMIE: Some of the issues that the forester is bringing to me are that the American ash has a tree borer that is headed our way and is bound to hit them. Some of the American maples in ` our immediate. area have been identified with a root disease. I know of at least two maples that my immediate neighbors had to have cut down due to this problem. I rather like the American elm tree; but,1 don't think that the Liddells are going to be interested in this tree. I don't know if you recall on the copy of the letter that I wrote; that it just seems to me like there is still some doubt about this disease and about their future. I felt that in review of the trees that were listed here, that an ornamental tree like a pear tree, which is a very fall tree, would be within the appropriate scale. Again, I would just ask that you consider it based on the fact that there are other proPerties quite near there that have this tree planted- CATHERINE lantedCATHERINE HOSTETLER: Which species of pear do they have again?