| REGULAR MEETING  OCTOBERT 28, 2013  
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<br />and it’s an equity issue.  Mr. Scott you had talked about not individuals but plans, usually what  
<br />you need to do is you have to look at your whole salary structure when I go on-line and do some  
<br />research a lot of the municipalities have their whole salary structure from level I all the way to  
<br />the Director of the Water Works published, and you have a start rate, you have a mid-point, and  
<br />you have maximum.  The people who are at the maximum might already have been there 20  
<br />years and that might be red line position that every year you have a market adjustment and if you  
<br />are at least meeting your market you are going to go up for whatever that market adjustment is  
<br />for that position.  And that is what has not been happening.   I know for a fact that some of our  
<br />bargaining units that are 20 years veterans Mr. Mayor who are making $2,000 in supervisory  
<br />positions of your person first walking in the door.  That is a huge equity problem and as a  
<br />taxpayer City Council, I have advised other City Council’s in the past on other issues that could  
<br />cause you a legal issue at some point in the future when people catch up, because it’s only a  
<br />matter of time when somebody who has been there for 20 years is going to see someone walking  
<br />in the door with half their credentials getting paid the same in a regular size structure.   And you  
<br />need to determine what your relative market is and with a lot of these jobs you are going  
<br />national, or even at least regional.  So if at all any of you in your position are advertising in a  
<br />professional magazine, it’s national, so what is your relative market, so it really doesn’t matter if  
<br />it’s Ft. Wayne, or at cities the same size, or cities with your same dynamic as your city and you  
<br />have to decide how you are going to pay people within that organization.  There are ways to  
<br />catch people up.  When I was at Penn State at a time there were cutting funding at legislative  
<br />level to the universities and each department was having to do give backs.  They actually, one of  
<br />the schools that they had dropped from being at the top of the pay scale they were at the bottom  
<br />in their national market, they were giving incremental increases to get people up to where they  
<br />needed to be, so it’s a long discussion.  I would be happy to meet with any one of you.  I do  
<br />support what the Mayor’s trying to do; I really think you are making a lot of problems in the way  
<br />that you are doing it.  Because you need to say what is your job evaluation system, for instance  
<br />we used to use hey I don’t know what you are doing? I did a ton of evaluations where you  
<br />transferred from one job evaluation system to another job evaluation system, using benchmarks.   
<br />Please City Council think about how you are doing what you are doing, I think it’s a great idea  
<br />because you’ve got a lot of people that you need to bring more up to speed and it is going to  
<br />affect the performance and the future of the City.  Thank you.  
<br />The following individual spoke in opposition. 
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<br />Rev. Greg Brown, 1238 Diamond, South Bend, Indiana:  I don’t agree with this.  At one time we  
<br />were rated as being a dying city.  Now we are bringing in people with less experience and we  
<br />want to give them a raise.  This administration has not brought in any new jobs.  We are steady  
<br />taking out of the city, what are we putting back into the city?  You see a lot of things going on, in  
<br />the paper, round the paper and this, but we are going to pay people, we had a lady, I’m not going  
<br />to call out her name worked on the job 12 years, is no longer on the job, but we will take  
<br />somebody with less experience and put them on the job.  Getting rid of people that has been  
<br />doing a good job but they are still not on the job.  But then we will go out of our community, out  
<br />of our region and compare us to other cities.  If we were that concerned and doing so well, we  
<br />would have not been listed as a dying city.  South Bend does have potential, you can compare us  
<br />to Mishawaka, you don’t hear that, you hear Evansville, you see where we are currently at,  
<br />we’ve been there, because we don’t have a scale, we don’t have a true scale, so we are asking  
<br />you folks to do something quickly.  You always want to do it fast but being fast is not about a  
<br />black thing, or white, it’s a right thing.  Put the people in right job at the right time for the right  
<br />reasons and we can pay them equally.  We can pay them what they deserve, but if we are going  
<br />to take one department and merge it together to save money on one end, and then on the other  
<br />end, we got these scales that go through the roof and we are going to change the city  
<br />immediately, that’s not the way it is  done.    Thank you.  
<br />In Rebuttal, Mayor Buttigieg:  I will be brief, I want to thank everyone who expressed interest  
<br />and concern and agreeing with the statement that our work is not done.  There is certainly more  
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