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Sassano: I'm just responding to your criteria that you have to bid it out. to find existing corner boards? Will there be sojjit boards? Maradik: All of those things, the corner boards and all of that are things that they do put on. Sassano: I'm just responding to your criteria that you have to bid it out. You're bidding out something that... (unintelligible- paper shuffling near microphone) Klusczinski: Any other questions for the petitioner? Thank you very much. We move on now to Commission discussion. I share Davids thoughts. I would certainly like to know what's under the house before it's committed to have a certain appearance especially in the historic district that we're talking about. The AWN house rehab model is north of that I believe? Maradik: It's just east of the property. Klusczinski: Ok. And there were some features that were incorporated into their version of the siding that were not called out in this particular C ofA application. So, what I would like to do, I would only feel comfortable tonight giving a conditional approval where I would have some limits if we were going to go that way so that you might consider part of the work and be able to move forward in some way. It seems that there's a difference of opinion between the staff recommendation that the windows be left in place and that they're good enough and it would be worth doing, and your testimony that says they're deteriorated. We could certainly charge the Standards and Maintenance committee to do some investigation but I think one consideration for this case is that the City of South Bend might have to take a look at some of the things that wouldn't get approved tonight and maybe we could find some compromise or some happy ground or something like that. And consider in the most expeditious way anything that you might be willing to come back with. Those are just my thoughts; I'd certainly appreciate anyone else's. Chase: Well, we've always taken some siding off, trim off; whenever we've looked at a house something has been taken off to determine what's underneath. So to do all this, to put bids on an unknown is unusual. Klusczinski: If there's no other discussion, we'll move on to public hearing. Any member of the public wishing to speak in support of the current petition? Hearing none, is there any member of the public wishing to speak in opposition of the current position? Also hearing none, Chair closes public hearing. What's your pleasure? As the by-laws allow the President to make a motion here I will do so. I would approve a conditional approval of C ofA 2008-0512 with the following contingencies: to substitute the replacement of new storms and screens for the sash kits currently called out, no replication of decorative features in siding, recommending instead that the existing uncovered features be rehabilitated and remain visible not covered by new siding and replacement may only occur if these features show extensive damage. I would allow the use of Smartside conditionally if it will match the style, profile and reveal of the original siding now covered by aluminum, and if features like the belt course may be achieved or re-created by using it. Foundation repairs must be repaired by patching agents or mortar that are compatible with existing structural materials. The proposed porch reconstruction should be permitted. HPC staff should have the authority to recommend and approve unknown project elements as they occur and within the parameters approved by the HPC Board under this application and these criteria. That is my motion. Chase: Second. Klusczinski: Motion has been made and seconded. Any discussion? All those in favor signify by saying aye. (Ayes are heard) Opposed? (Silence) Motion carries. Moved: Klusczinski Second: Chase Approval of amended 2008-0512 Approved 5-0 2