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Zeiger: There will still be an issue. <br />Hostetler: There will be an issue, but... <br />Zelger: I have a question when you're done. <br />Klusczinski: Please. I have one question for staff. When I was reviewing the Chapin <br />Park guidebook, page 72, the prohibited section also suggests that wood siding shall not <br />be resurfaced with material that is inappropriate or was unavailable when the building <br />was constructed. And it gives some examples, and Shawn, legally, the examples it gives, <br />it doesn't suggest that it discludes anything else, or excludes anything else that's not <br />mentioned, I think that it was trying to be helpful with a few other examples, maybe some <br />brick siding material, imitation brick siding material, that kind of thing, but I'm not sure <br />legally if that also suggests that the whole emphasis here or the drive is to make sure that <br />we could gradually get away from houses that have dual cladding on them and if that <br />would even be relevant right now despite the NNN's best efforts to use maybe a cement <br />fiberboard over vinyl or some other building material. <br />Peterson: I'd have to look at the standards themselves and see and get back to you. I'm <br />not familiar with how it's worded to know if this aspect would be, would fall within that <br />prohibited section. Again, the guidelines are there to distinguish what is and what is not <br />appropriate and so to the extent that they overlap I think that within you discretion to see <br />which category does that fit within. <br />Klusczinski: And the follow up to that, I think that its... under required on page 70 also <br />suggests that ample ventilation must be afforded to the structure when siding is installed <br />in order to prevent increased deterioration of the structure from moisture and insects. <br />Under the impression that that probably relates to a second layer of cladding on a house <br />because of the lack of moisture breath ability. <br />Peterson:. You may be more familiar here, are they removing the aluminum siding to put <br />the stuff right up over the wood then? <br />Klusczinski: Yes. <br />Peterson: I'm not familiar with the use of portage or Portland cement. <br />Herdman: That's just a gray, your standard ugly cement. <br />Peterson: Well obviously... its one thing to say that this was unavailable, but new <br />technologies are such that you probably want to look at the essence... is it inappropriate <br />in the sense of the look and how it occurs on this. But it says that new material, should <br />not be resurfaced with new material that's inappropriate or unavailable when the <br />building was built. So you look at artificial stone is listed, so how much does that mesh <br />with cement, and it seems to be that it would be close <br />Klusczinski: And cement board, I thinkfor all practical purposes, you wouldn't be able <br />to know that it's not wood cladding it's just a different formulation. Dimensionally, it's <br />the same kind of thing. But I'm not sure what the breath ability of cement fiberboard is <br />and I'm not sure maybe what the emphasis on the guidebook would try and be getting <br />back to the earlier C of A case that we had tonight and the comment that Todd made <br />about if we'd ever had the opportunity to evaluate signs on the same building at some <br />time in the future we should also try to direct so that there is some uniformity. Here, it <br />would be uniformity in the district, and maybe a gradual way to try to get away from <br />cladding on cladding, which I don't think in my opinion leads to the historic integrity of <br />the neighborhood. Those are my thoughts. Ok, Todd, you had a question. <br />Zeiger: You started to talk about what I'm concerned about. When they put that wide <br />aluminum siding on, they generally go over the top of the casing around the window and <br />the corner boards so you'll have a wide board. That's what you were trying to ask about. <br />So you'll have the window sash and then a wide board around the window and that goes <br />out to the corner boards. And that wide aluminum is furred (?) out and goes over the top <br />of that so that you don't lose the actual casing itself. 'My concern is, without taking off <br />the clapboard, you're going to have to come over the top of the corner boards and all the <br />window trim with trim again, otherwise it's not going to look right. There's no way to <br />terminate that cement board at the edge otherwise your casing board is back. Are you <br />7 <br />