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Doolittle: I think that a number of the people have passed away that were good at that. That's <br />the dijiculty. <br />Sporleder: Slatile still exists, I don't know who all anymore. <br />Zeiger: There's four firms in town, you've got HG Roofing, Slatile, JC Lauber, and I believe <br />Midland would probably still look at it. All of them would be able to look at this little space and <br />give a bid that's specifically that area instead of the whole roof if you're just looking to isolate <br />that spot from the chimney out over the pastor's study, that could be isolated as one job. I doubt <br />though that it's never going to be cheaper than free. Labor is nothing, and that's good for you <br />because you have a volunteer ethic in your church and that's excellent but no matter what that <br />bid is, it's never going to match up. This roof has got a major problem and it's the nails. It's <br />dropping shingles and it has been for years. <br />Sporleder: But the round part of this doesn't look like it's in ... is this the part that you were <br />talking about? This plus this? Am I reading this picture correctly? <br />Juszczyk: And these crowns, if you look closely at them, there's holes eaten through them. <br />Sporleder: That may be where a major part of your problem is. But the problem of getting, I <br />think Todd you could maybe say something about this too, getting this nice curve thing with <br />asphalt shingles. <br />Juszczyk: Oh yes, it would be super easy. A lot easier than with slate, slate doesn't bend. <br />Sporleder: Slate doesn't bend, but they're in smaller units that you can work with. <br />Hostetler: We've had problems with architectural shingles on curves. <br />Zeiger: You can look at, and this is just anecdotal, look at the Remedy and our turret has that. It <br />took our roofer whole days to wrap that turret. We didn't have slate, it was already in asphalt, <br />but it about drove her nuts. She had to cut every shingle down to slate size and then wrap it. As <br />you wrap it around that long rectangle, it flips up. It's not as straightforward as what you've <br />replaced on this flat edge here, it comes up, and it doesn't lay flat. You have to cut each one. <br />Juszczyk: That's not a problem. Labor is not a problem. Money is a problem And it's <br />something that we do ... we want to get the slate back on there, but it's out of reach and the <br />building is getting destroyed on the inside. <br />Klusczinski: I'm going to move ahead into the public hearing so that we can close this issue. <br />Any member of the public wishing to speak in support of the petition? Hearing none. Any <br />member of the public wishing to speak in opposition? Also hearing none, the public hearing is <br />closed. Any final comments that you'd like to say? <br />Juszczyk: No sir. <br />Klusczinski: Any further discussion? <br />Riley: I think that this is such a significant building and it's so prominent, I would like to see <br />them get more quotes and come back to us if they want to do it in the artificial slate, I'd like to <br />see samples of it. <br />Herdman: We have samples in the office. <br />Riley: Well, I'd like to see what they want to use. <br />Patrick: I want to ask if down the road if you end up going with the different material, would it <br />be possible to save that slate? <br />Klusczinski: I'll bet if they thought that was the outcome that they'd be less meticulous with <br />attempts to salvage the roof. <br />Choitz: One thing I'd like to put into this. This is about the time that Clem Studebaker was <br />finishing Tippecanoe Place. The roof may not be the same kind, but have you ever looked in the <br />basement of your building? If there's a sub basement under the basement, at Tippecanoe Place, <br />we found that the floors down there were lined with extra the from Ireland where all that slate <br />had come from. He had new enough down there to put a new roof on. It was just like new, it had <br />been down there with good drainage, and although there was water around it when we found it, <br />but it hadn't hurt the tile. I don't know how familiar you are with the basement and whatever <br />they could have built under that, but sub basements were very popular. Clem also had a bowling <br />alley down there in the second one down, and that was lined with the different kinds of trim that <br />he had stored. So, I don't know, but you might loop We were able to find that same place in <br />7 <br />
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