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Klusczinski: But you don't have any quotes from contractors to do that? Patching or replacement? Juszczyk: Actually, I can 't find anyone that will patch, period. Klusczinski: Ok. Patrick: I have a question. Are the people that did quote, are they all from the Chicago land area? Or local? Juszczyk: Local, and from Elkhart, I believe. Patrick: Do you know who the locals were? Juszczyk: I know that it was several years ago, ma'am. We can probably dig up the paperwork somewhere, but the quarter million was just totally out of our range. Patrick: I know, Errik, it's not the quarter of million for me. It's the lack of documentation on what somebody said... and if it was several years ago, people come and go out of the business, they're constantly developing new products and procedures. If this has been held in abeyance for that long, I'm wondering why you don't seek, also we're in a new financial thing, homebuilding is slowing down ... people that might have been tied up before might be amenable to doing it now. Seven years is a long time. It might be worth your while, I'm trying to help you and save you money, it might be worth it just to call some people in and tell them what you want. The other thing that concerns me is that the people are going to do the work, the parishioners? Volunteers? Juszczyk: I would be leading it, I'm not a roofer, but I have a roofer in Chicago and a roofer in Elkhart that would work under me. Patrick: And they work on slate roofs? Juszczyk: They work on shingle roofs. I'm asking to remove the slate and to put the shingles on that small area. Not the entire roof, you can't even see it from Washington and Lafayette, just that small area to try to preserve the building until we can get to the status to where we can bring it back to the original state. Klusczinski: But then the cost is much higher because you'd have to bring in all new materials instead ofsalvaging the material that's in place right now. Juszczyk: The material that's there now is no good, it's brittle. When you go up there, itjust crumbles in your hand. Zeiger: I'm just curious, and you may not know, but do you know the date that the slate that it was put on? Juszczyk: I don't know, Td imagine when they built it. Zeiger: Maybe, maybe not. Juszczyk: I know that they're not galvanized nails a lot of the problem is that the nails have just rusted through. Zeiger: The problem with the roof is not the slate, the problem with the roof is the nails and the underlayment. Juszczyk: There is no underlayment. Zeiger: There's something. -They're not just hanging out in space. Juszczyk: They're shingles on top of wood. When the shingle falls out, you see wood. Zeiger: Right, that's underlayment. I understand. The problem with this roof is that the nails have rusted and that's what's dropping the slates. The tarpaper, to use a current term, has deteriorated, and there's just nothing shielding that water anymore. Slate does get brittle, but I just wonder if the majority of your water problem isn't coming in right around the flashing in this area here around your chimney. This is the edge of where that roof comes back in, that's the area that you're talking about, correct? Juszczyk: Yes, it goes like this, and then it goes like that on the other side. Zeiger: It could be the flashings and the gutters. Juszczyk: It's a combination of everything. Everything is bad. Zeiger: It's reached the end of its useful life unfortunately. I noticed on this picture, on this back corner, it has the asphalt on this. Was this approved by the C omission? Hostetler: No. Zeiger: This work was done without a C of A. Juszczyk: At that time I wasn't aware that we needed that. F1