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T Califano: This is our learning curve. It has a screen on it and a window. <br />J Califano: They're aluminum storms. <br />Hostetler: They're old aluminum storms. And there's the wood windows on the inside. What <br />they want to do is get the Kolbe ones that replace both of those items so that you don't have the <br />aluminum storm windows and you've got this systems replacing the other two systems. The <br />original window plus the storm. <br />Klusczinski: All in one. <br />Sporleder: So, the original windows are wood windows? That's sort of the way that it looks <br />here. <br />Hostetler: Yes. <br />Sporleder: And they're single pane and they're cold? Are they drafty? <br />T Califano: We haven't been in there a winter yet to say for sure. <br />Sporleder: So your intention is to put in insulated glass. How do these windows work? They're <br />just double hung? <br />T Califano: They're just double hung with an additional mullion. I've learned. <br />Sporleder: You can get that mullion to go all the way across. <br />T Califano: A friend of ours owns (?) Wholesale, and he can make it match exactly what it is. <br />They do the Kolbe and Kolbe windows. They're a distributor. <br />Sporleder: Ok, and if you did that then you'd take off the aluminum things all together? Can you <br />tell whether the aluminum storms are original with the frame? <br />T Califano: I think the ones that are there probably are. <br />Sporleder: Or have they been installed...? <br />Chase: I wouldn't say they're original. <br />Hostetler: I don't think that they're original. I really don't. <br />Sporleder: Because single pane glass is extremely uncomfortable to live next to. <br />Klusczinski: Any other questions for the petitioner? <br />Sporleder: So did we resolve whether or not the aluminum storms and screens are original or if <br />they were something added? What is the frame work here, is this wood? <br />T Califano: Yes. <br />J Califano: Ah, there's the aluminum right here. And that's the window that's back in here? <br />Sporleder: And if you go... <br />J Califano: This right here is aluminum. <br />Sporleder: Let's go back to this picture. The frame around the window is wood? <br />J Califano: The center post is wood, right. <br />Sporleder: And the sills are wood? <br />J Califano: Correct. And they just screwed in the storm, the aluminum storm. <br />Sporleder: Ok, well you know we're back to this dilemma of making somebody restore single <br />pane glass because that's what's there, or whether you allow them to put in more comfortable <br />windows that are more thermally efficient. <br />Klusczinski: The other thing Joann is that this is a non-contributing house. <br />Sporleder: Well... <br />Klusczinski: So there is some latitude there. I'm generally of the mind myself to always <br />encourage folks to rehabilitate their existing windows. <br />T Califano: We like the design of the windows and we're glad that Catherine came out and said <br />that it would be nice to keep that extra little mullion there. Because she's right, it looks neat, it's <br />not something that you see in all houses. The inside of the house is what really makes it unique, <br />there's no trim on the inside of the windows the plaster goes all the way around so we really <br />didn't want to do anything to disturb that. So the replacement is the way that we wanted to go as <br />not to disturb the inside. It's hard to paint, but it looks neat. <br />Klusczinski: Any other questions? <br />Sporleder: Yes, are you intending to do this with all the windows in the house? How many are <br />we talking about here? <br />T Califano: I think that there are 24. <br />Sporleder: And they're all in triplets? Groups of 3? <br />4 <br />