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Patrick: Thank you. At this point, Shawn had a comment, I see.
<br />Peterson: I just wanted to note that Catherine has informed me that Catherine has given the
<br />petitioner a copy of Bob Yapp s report and that he is fully aware, and has received... so that it can
<br />be submitted to evidence as he is fully aware of it.
<br />Patrick: Good point, thank you.
<br />Sporleder: I've got one more comment, and I'd like to make it.
<br />Patrick: You'll need to be brief...
<br />Sporleder: I'd like to respond to one persons suggestion that the... that insulating glass can be
<br />put in the existing sash. It was first thing that Ilooked at when I went to his house initially. The
<br />sash is not wide enough to accommodate insulating glass.
<br />Patrick: Thank you. I'm trying to move this on, because I know that I'm tired, and I know that
<br />we've spent significant time on this, which is worth spending the time to come to the best
<br />understanding. At this point I'd like to close the public hearing, and recognize the applicant for a
<br />rebuttal if you so choose to make one professor of a 3 minute maximum. A rebuttal of 3 minutes.
<br />Enderle: I just want to tell you that four windows, everybody here in the room can come and tell
<br />me when you want to come and see those windows. If you tell me that I have to put storm
<br />windows there it's not feasible, its not feasible technically speaking. Eighty-eight windows with
<br />storm windows is a different situation. Don't make a judgment about a situation that you don't
<br />know seriously enough. That's why, I mean, I feel that storm windows is the belief, that's the
<br />credo, its true, but in my situation its different. And you need to know my situation before you
<br />can make a judgment.
<br />Patrick: Thank you Professor. Having heard the rebuttal, the President now recognizes
<br />Commissioners for additional discussion and I will entertain a motion. Does any Commissioner
<br />wish to have additional discussion? Mary Jane?
<br />Chase: I think that we're getting hung up on two words here- we're getting all hung up on the
<br />words storm window and aluminum or aluminum clad. If you can have the windows rebuilt as
<br />Wayne suggested with a double pane window with new weights, you probably will have a better
<br />fit. Storm windows are impossible, so we can't get hung up on that, its not a do-able thing for
<br />you. Getting a window rebuilt, double paned, properly fit with new weights it's a heavier
<br />window, you may find that you're going to have the protection in the fitting...I have had
<br />aluminum windows, they sweat and they did ruin the inside wood on a previous home. But we're
<br />getting hung up on two words, rather than looking at solutions. So we need think about solutions
<br />rather that hang up on words.
<br />Patrick: Are they any other comments by any other Commissioners?
<br />Klusczinski: I personally have a hard time believing someone when they tell me that something
<br />can't be done, and it seems up to now there have been no attempts to have a reputable storm
<br />window manufacturer come to the site and assess the situation other than the homeowner. I,
<br />Professor Enderle, was one of the specialists that made a trip to your house, and graciously
<br />accepted your invitation. I could see where we could apply interior storms, and I could also see
<br />where dimensions probably would allow exterior storms. At less of an invasion than the proposal
<br />that you're submitting today that has an interior jamb system on it. So, other than... that's just
<br />what I wanted to say for the record.
<br />Sporleder: May I rebut that?
<br />Patrick: Let's go down this way, I have one comment that I wanted to make. As President, and
<br />as someone that also visited your house, and has tremendous respect for you as a very learned
<br />and traveled man, and as owner of the finest historic homes in the district, I have expressed at
<br />one point that we get our Preservation Specialist Wayne Doolittle, Tim Klusczinski who's very
<br />knowledgeable about this, Paul Hayden, another Preservation Specialist with Historic
<br />Landmarks and a window person, have them do one window in that bay that faces the back and
<br />see if we could satisfy you by doing one window. We talked about it and nothing ever happened, I
<br />don't know if anyone communicated that back to you, but even after all is said and done, this
<br />might bean option. Were it properly written, you wouldn't even have to come before the
<br />Commission, because it would be in-kind replacement, or it would be staff approved or we could
<br />get it through, but I want to hold out this missive of hope because I have a feeling that you might
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