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Patrick: Well, after they're done we have a ... I'll allow for any additional evidence to be submitted as part of the record after that. This is the oppositional views being expressed. Go ahead, sir. Faulkner: My name is David Faulkner and I live at 835 Park Avenue just down the street. I too live in a historically significant house. It's the old South Bend Toy Company house. I too am in the process of restoring it as well. It takes long time to modernize, or to fix these houses so that are up to date. I have 88 windows in my house that I have to restore. I too could have gone the route of replacing my windows and putting in metal storm windows, metal clad windows. I looked at that, I entertained the idea at first just to get an idea of what it would cost to do such a tremendous undertaking of 88 windows. I found there it is much less expensive to have the . windows that I have rebuilt and repaired and restored rather than replaced. We used to have a gentleman that used to work with [unintelligible] and he was able to stop by the house and actually give testimony and his knowledge that the windows are actually better thermally insulated. .If you stop and think about it, these windows are already 100 years old, and they're still around. If you put in these new windows nowadays, you see people replacing them every ten or twentyyears. So really, you've got a much better window in the old ones if they're just rebuilt. It will also keep the integrity of the property. Moving into a neighborhood like ours, you need to keep the integrity of these houses, and its very important to most everyone in the community that a house of that significance stays in tact because its one of the oldest and most historic houses in the neighborhood. So I too would just like to voice my opinion that I'd like to see another option entertained for the old windows to be restored. Perhaps you could get names from Todd or anybody that would be able to do something like that. Thank you. Patrick: Thank you. The President will now allow any additional evidence to be submitted as part of the record. Hostetler: I think that what would like to submit as part of the record would be Bob Yapp's presentation "Old Windows are Not a Pane, They're a Goldmine' , which he details with techniques and supplies how to put in and restore windows and do paint jobs that will last I5-20 years. Patrick: So you will include a copy of that with the minutes when they come out? Hostetler: Yes. Sporleder: I'd like to second what Catherine says, and I'd also like to make a comment about it. I was very impressed with what Bob Yapp's proposal of how to restore old windows. Step #1, if you would care to open your copy of that, and read it to me, I would appreciate it. Patrick: I don't think that we really need to go into that at this point. Sporleder: Yes we do. Step #1 will say quite clearly, 'be sure that your storm windows are [unintelligible] and restored before you begin on the sash'. This particular structure has no storm windows. Patrick: Ok, while she's looking, I have another Commissioner that would like to make a comment. Riley: I guess to the last speaker, I'm sorry I missed your name, the one problem that the Professor has is that he will not have, as Joann said, a storm window. He can have the window repaired and it will be in good order, but there will be no energy saving there. Did you find any energy saving or were you able to make your house more comfortable without a storm window? Faulkner: [unintelligible] Patrick: Go ahead, approach the podium. Faulkner: We're still in the process of having our storm windows rebuilt as well as our windows. Patrick: We can hardly hear you and this is for the record. Faulkner: David Faulkner, 835 Park Avenue. We are rebuilding our storm windows and our main windows as well. We're only 8 into the whole 88, we're doing it as we can afford to do it. So, its taking a little bit of time, but we've noticed that ones that have been rebuilt are better, even without the storm windows in them because if you have them reglazed and rebuilt, have the whole frame rebuilt if its rotted out then everything fits nicely, if you've got somebody that knows what they're doing, then they'll fit nice and proper and tight. We've noticed a significant difference in the windows that have been done. rl