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NANCY ICKLER: No, we are going to take out the concrete and take out the bricks and <br />just pour a concrete slab and then trim it with something to tie it back into the rest of the <br />house. What we might do is have concrete in the middle and then for the driveway; we <br />were thinking of using exposed adaget so it wouldn't be so much white in your face, it <br />would look more natural and go with the rest of the yard. Then pour this patio with <br />concrete in the middle and then have an outside border of 12 to 18 inches with exposed <br />adaget to tie in with the driveway. But, I think this is still a little bit of work in progress. <br />Our landscaper said he needs to lay it out. I didn't like what he did, Wayne, did you? <br />WAYNE DOOLITTLE: I thought he was going in the wrong direction. Generally it's <br />an (L) shape. <br />NANCY ICKLER: That doesn't make any sense what he did back there; but, he was just <br />trying to get an idea of the size. He suggested using a border to help kind of tie in with <br />the driveway. <br />JOANN SPROLEDER: I think I would like to recommend that we not approve this until <br />we get a plan that shows a little more specifically what it is were approving. <br />JOHN OXIAN: Table it. <br />NANCY ICKLER: That means we have to like not do any of it; because, they are not <br />going to come out twice and pour concrete. <br />JOHN OXIAN: No, what you should do is to remove what ever it is that you want to <br />have removed from there and then come back to us and tell us what you are going to do <br />there. <br />NANCY ICKLER: What I am saying is that they can't put in a driveway and come back <br />out again and pour the patio. <br />JOHN OXIAN: Oh, that's right. <br />JOANN SPORLEDER: The problem is nobody seems to be exactly clear about what is <br />going to actually be there. I think that we can't approve something that isn't more clear. <br />This is as unclear as it can be to me, anyway. <br />JOHN OXIAN: Concrete, believe it or not, ones who deliver concrete they go by the <br />amount of concrete you buy. It doesn't make any difference if they come out there for <br />five feet or twenty feet._ I knew_ by oncrete_work that I have had done, sometimes they -- <br />can use up the whole truck and they charge you the same thing as if they came out and <br />did a small amount. So if they have to come out there twice, to them it doesn't make any <br />difference. <br />13 <br />