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�1 . <br />REGULAR MEETING JUNE 16, 1980 <br />pay programming and basic programming. He stated that Cable T.V. <br />must pay a per subscriber fee for such service. He assured Mr. <br />Kernan that approximately 80% of the costs involved in that line <br />item were for pay programming costs and not basic cable television. <br />Mr. Kernan stated that, as he understood it, pay television included <br />Home Box Office, Spectrum and Showtime, and Mr. Hren stated that he <br />was correct. He informed Mr. Kernan that the pay television income <br />was broken down if he wanted to check it. He stated that this <br />overcomes the actual cost substantially, and that the company was <br />making more than an operating profit on pay television. Mr. Kernan <br />stated that there were additional costs involved in technical and <br />promotional items. The increases in those items were substantial, and <br />he asked about that. Mr. Hren answered by stating that those increases <br />were primarily for an upgrade of the technical supports in terms of <br />people, wages and maintenance. Mr. Kernan stated that the expenses <br />for customer service have actually gove down, with the technical <br />expenses being increased substantially. He felt this appeared to <br />coincide with the introduction of Home Box Office, etc. Mr. Hren <br />stated that this was not the case. He stated that there has been <br />a great improvement of service and quality of the cable signal. Mr. <br />Noell stated that some major improvements have been made in the area <br />of capital improvements to effect this. Mr. Hren informed the Board <br />that the company had just recently installed a computer which automates <br />a great deal of paperwork which allows Cable T.V. to provide better <br />service to its customers. He stated that this was a large investment <br />on the part of Cable T.V. Mr. Kernan asked about the line item <br />entitled, "other expenses ". Mr. Hren stated that approximately 95% <br />of that item was depreciation (straight -line) and interest. Mr. <br />Windhorst asked if capitalization was included as part of the rates, <br />and Mr. Kernan stated that depreciation has to be considered as an <br />expense of doing business. Mr.. Windhorst asked if the money Cable <br />T.V. has tied up was part of the rate base. Mr. Kernan stated that <br />that would help determine its costs. Mr. Windhorst referred to a <br />letter which he had received from Mr. Hren sometime ago which <br />stated that the services were a choice of the customer and charges <br />were not based on total capitalization. Mr. Hill explained to Mr. <br />Windhorst that a purchaser of the service must determine whether <br />or not he feels the service'is worth what he pays for it. He stated <br />that the Board must set the rate for the community and must look into <br />the inquiries raised by Mr. Kernan. He indicated that these things <br />have been discussed with Mr. Hren, and the Board must now determine <br />whether or not the increase is needed to maintain the service in this <br />community. Mr. McMahon stated that the federal government has taken <br />the position that the activity in which the Board is presently <br />involved in is optional. He indicated that the federal government <br />has changed its position on cablevision which reflects the opposite <br />of Mr. Hren's statement. For that reason, it has given the cities <br />the option to approve the rate adjustments. He reminded Mr. Windhorst <br />that the Board would not look at the rate increase from the same <br />standpoint as the customer, and he stated that the Board would retain <br />the option and would either approve or disapprove the rate increase. <br />He stated that Cable T.V. could not be compared to other utilities <br />such as telephone, electric, or gas,.simply because it was not a <br />sole source utility. Mr. Page stated that, as a customer, he felt <br />there was a lack of service to the customer and he had experienced <br />this with the problem he had recently brought to the attention of <br />the Board. Mr. Noell stated that there had been a great deal of <br />re- regulation on the part of the federal.government. He felt there <br />was no question that these types of companies must operate on a <br />viable, business -like basis. Because Cable T.V. had over 24,000 <br />customers and over 1,000 miles of cable, the expenses incurred would <br />naturally increase. He stated that the company was faced with a <br />deficit and has brought in pay television to help bring that deficit <br />in line. Mr. Crone asked about the percentage of depreciation which <br />would be attributable to air station. Mr. Hren answered by stating <br />that approximately 5% would be attributable. Mr. Kernan asked Mr. <br />Hren to furnish him specific information regarding the company's <br />