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are growing all over the country and there are statistics to back that up. South Bend has done nothing for the kids who want to learn golf. There has been no better time to be a girl and trying to play golf right now and is more accessible than ever. He stated lets make the course accessible to everyone and if you have to raise the rates do that then. He asked why the Mayor had his golf outing for his campaign at Blackthorn Golf Course and not at a city owned golf course. Greg Forbes, 502 Jackson St. Lakeville IN, he stated he has played at Elbel for seventeen (17) years. He stated Elbel is a superior course to Erskine. He gave examples that Elbel is quieter, has more natural diversity, and a general better atmosphere. All the wildlife is a unique experience on a golf course. He stated he always buys from the concessions and buys golf clubs and balls and general merchandise to keep his money in the community. He stated he is a member of five (5) golfing groups who all do the same as him. He stated the family environment that course considers is very unique and should not be sold off. Edwin Rosado, 26445 Whippoorwill Dr. Warren Township, stated he is saddened by the news that South Bend would sell Elbel. He stated he came into this area to raise grandkids and maybe great grandkids in this great community. He stated he is the tennis coach at Washington High School and continues to participate in events that promote families and the growth of what this community should be about. He stated Elbel helps to bring this community together and its loss would be to further the concrete jungle that plagues this community. He stated we have to think about twenty years from now. Elbel is a treasure and glimpse of what it was maybe a thousand years ago. He stated Mud Lake is a beautiful area year- round, and people fish and walk and ride their bikes around the lake and do the things the city wants its residents to do. He questions the administration's stance that there is no clear path to fix this problem. Mike Griffin, 704 California South Bend, he stated he is proud of this city and in many ways this administration. He stated this moment of great change is very fragile right now. He asked that the city stop using the argument that pits urban programs against nature parks and kids against ecology. He stated splash pads and parks are not in competition. It's not golf vs. nature. He questioned if today's turnout means that Elbel is more on the map than it has ever been in the consciousness of South Bend. He stated what is possible now after this movement is greater than what it was before this whole process came about. If the Council is not swayed by ecology or public access how about politics. He said this city has a big public relations problem on its hand as the city wants to be behind the right kind of movement which Elbel for Everyone represents. The potential is a lot of this energy could really turn and that would be highly unfortunate. He stated this Council should vote no and form a commission to investigate this issue. Dr. Varner stated we should establish a date for the next meeting where the administration can respond. Chairperson Randy Kelly said Mr. Zeeb could have a few moments to respond. Mr. Zeeb thanked everyone for their input and stated he thinks everyone is looking for the best way forward for Elbel. He stated they would like to still hear Council comments and they can be collected under Randy Kelly and they can answer those questions at the next meeting.