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REGULAR MEETING JULY-20L 1975 <br />COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING (CONTINUED) <br />questioning the rai <br />persons' parts. He <br />better services. H <br />ment were resolved. <br />Parent talked about <br />amount of services <br />cities the size of <br />se of the councilmen's salary). He felt there was a lack of cooperation on some <br />could not see any correlation in the statement made concerning more salary, the <br />e felt there should be no increase at all until the problems within the depart - <br />He recommended that the ordinance not be voted upon. Council President <br />the scheme of payment that would be required if the officers were paid on the <br />performed. He indicated that he felt the base pay was comparable to other <br />South Bend. <br />Councilman Horvath made a motion to recommend the ordinance to the Council with no recommendation <br />until a recess was taken, seconded by Councilman Nemeth. Council President Parent felt those <br />councilmen who had voted to approve the $300 increase should not support Councilman Horvath's <br />motion. Chairman Newburn requested a roll call vote on the motion. It appeared the motion had <br />carried; however, Councilman Serge indicated that he wished to change his vote to nay because he <br />had misunderstood the motion. The motion was declared lost by a vote of five nays (Councilmen <br />Serge, Szymkowiak, Taylor, Newburn and Parent) and four. ayes (Councilmen Miller, Kopczynski, <br />Horvath and Nemeth). Councilman Taylor then made a motion that the ordinance be recommended <br />favorably, as amended, to the Common Council, seconded by Council President Parent. Chairman <br />Newburn requested a roll call vote. The motion carried by a vote of eight ayes (Councilmen Serge, <br />Szymkowiak, Miller, Taylor, Horvath, Nemeth, Newburn and Parent) with one nay (Councilman <br />Kopczynski). <br />ORDINANCE AN ORDINANCE FIXING THE ANNUAL PAY OF <br />FIREFIGHTERS FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR 1976. <br />This being the time heretofore set for public hearing on the above ordinance, proponents and <br />opponents were given an opportunity to be heard. Council President Parent made the presentation <br />for the ordinance. He indicated that the proposal represented a $400 increase across the board <br />except for the first three ranks. In addition, the Council had recommended that $84 be paid in <br />dependent hospitalization, and an additional $25 be added to the clothing allowance. He indicated <br />that a provision was also included in the ordinance to provide an additional $600 per year for the <br />paramedics, and an additional holiday was given. He felt that, with the present frozen tax rate <br />and the high cost of the pension plan, the proposal was reasonable. In addition, he indicated <br />that an amendment would be made to increase the amount of the raise from $400 to $416 and also <br />increase the salary of the Firefighter First Class from $9,480 to $9,600. He indicated that <br />tillermen would also be included to receive additional pay like the regularly assigned drivers of <br />fire trucks and other heavy equipment. <br />Councilman Taylor made a motion to amend the ordinance as follows: <br />In Section 1, amend to increase the salaries of Battalion Chief, Captain, Electrician, <br />Lieutenant and Engineer by $16. Amend to increase the salary of Firefighter First <br />Class to $9,600. <br />In Section 2, include tillermen with assigned drivers of fire trucks and other heavy <br />equipment to receive an additional $225 per year. <br />Add a new Section 4 as follows: The Common Council recommends that the contribution <br />to dependent hospitalization be increased by $84.00 per year and that the Firefighter's <br />clothing allowance be advanced from $250.00 to $275.00 per year. <br />Section 4 becomes Section 5. <br />Council President Parent seconded the motion to amend. Councilman Kopczynski stated that it was <br />his understanding that a promotion in rank was to be given a man as a reward for acquiring skills <br />on the department. He indicated that each year, additional pay was given for various skills. He <br />wondered about this. Assistant Fire Chief Joseph Nagy indicated that, when the incentive pay was <br />started, the engineer had extra responsibilities and was compensated for this. He indicated that, <br />for about five or six years, the tillermen had been overlooked. He indicated that the paramedics <br />should also be included for extra pay for duties performed. Councilman Kopczynski wondered why <br />these skills were not used to determine promotion in rank. He felt that, if certain skills were <br />needed, promotions should be given to those men. He felt the firefighter with more skills should <br />be rewarded accordingly by a promotion in rank. He felt this should be spelled out as to what <br />skills were required for the various ranks. Assistant Chief Nagy indicated that this information <br />was available and he stated that he would furnish it to Councilman Kopczynski. <br />Councilman Miller made a motion to amend the amendment by deleting the increase of the Firefighter <br />First Class to $9,600, seconded by Councilman Nemeth. Councilman Taylor stated that he felt both <br />pensions should be the same for policemen and firefighters, and the amount of the pension was <br />based on the salary of the Patrolman First Class and Firefighter First Class. He indicated that <br />the Council acted as an administrative body by state law in negotiating salaries. He felt that <br />retired policemen and firefighters should receive the same amount of money. He indicated that <br />his amendment would cut in half the difference that existed, and be a start to end the disparity. <br />Councilman Kopczynski wondered how many regularly assigned drivers of fire trucks were needed. <br />Assistant Chief Nagy indicated that the department was requesting money for an additional six more <br />people for tillermen. Councilman Kopczynski wondered about the scuba divers, and Assistant Chief <br />Nagy indicated that there were 10. Councilman Kopczynski wondered how many shifts these men worke <br />on. Assistant Chief Nagy indicated that the men are split so that three to four of them work on <br />each shift. Councilman Nemeth supported the motion made by Councilman Miller because the state <br />legislative determined the pension plan and the cities were forced to come up with the money to <br />implement the plan. He stated that the state has also seen fit to freeze the city's tax rate. He <br />felt the salary should likewise be frozen until the law was amended to provide the city with a <br />means to implement the pension plan. He felt the base should be kept down so that the pension <br />would not be increased with a frozen tax rate. He stated that, in seven years, the pension has <br />increased approximately 1500. Mr. Gene Evans, Executive Secretary of the Civic Planning <br />Association, referred to a problem which had created the disparity in pay between the policemen an <br />firemen some time ago. He commended Councilman Taylor on his motion to try and resolve that <br />disparity. Councilman Miller indicated that the firefighters themselves helped to increase the <br />disparity between departments because they wished to have an across - the -board increase last year <br />rather than the program which was approved for the policemen. Chairman Newburn requested a roll <br />