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Joann Sporleder: I guess that's why I asked what is your objective. I don't think that I'm still quite clear on that. I think that my suspicious mind is, not that I'm suspicious of you Tim, is that I'm always looking for somebody's other agenda that maybe they don't even recognize themselves. You know, like a hidden agenda, and I guess that's why I question what the objective is here... having gone through (such things) several times in Roseland only to discover to my shock and horror that they're just simply changing the law ,anyone with any (occasion ?) can ... you know... this was not the way that it was written in the first place, somebody just had something else in mind. Martha Choitz: That sounds like what happened here about 25 years ago when I got my first one handed to me, no one could tell me where it came from. I looked at it, and asked what's it for, when did we ever use it ... how would you use that little beauty ifyou ... there was no answer, but they kept coming up and coming up, and my God, here it is again... who mandated it? Catherine Hostetler: The Preservation Plan? Martha Choitz: Yes. Catherine Hostetler. It's in the ordinance Martha Choitz: It's in the ordinance? Is it in the wording that's in that last one? Catherine Hostetler: Yes. The ordinance that we have is the codified version. Martha Choitz: The very first one? Catherine Hostetler. I think that you're confusing the Preservation Plan. with the ordinance. Martha Choitz: I'm sure I am though I know that they're two different things. All I'm asking is why is one necessary, why is the plan necessary when we have the ordinance? Catherine Hostetler. The ordinance mandates us to have a Preservation Plan. Todd Zeiger: The ordinance is the law that we operate under, the plan is the actions that we take to implement the law. Martha Choitz: You couldn't take them ifyou wanted to. Todd Zeiger: That's why we need a new plan. Lynn Patrick: Its not a (unknown) plan, but its something to work from and I view part of this an overall reprofessionalizing (?) our whole commission and looking at things and clarifying things and just continuous improvement throughout the whole commission. Martha Choitz: And this one is so far from being adequate that it needs to be reinvented. There is nothing there that tells anyone how to do anything. Lynn Patrick. Just like the city was doing the City Plan.... we need our Preservation Plan updated. Shawn Peterson: Getting back to the motion that is on the floor, we can discuss it or the committee that has the authority could meet with me and go through the items that you're interested in... Todd Zeiger: I call for the question please. Motion is seconded on the floor. Lynn Patrick: Could you re -read the motion? Tim Musczinski. 7move to charge this Commission with the duty of establishing a committee, chosen by its President and aimed to review and analyze the current ordinance language. Questions and comments arriving out of those sessions could then be funneled through the Legal Committee (as one suggestion) with a goal to improve the ordinance, suggest clarifications and offer amendments. Once our internal sessions conclude, I support an invitation to the St. Joseph County Council and the South Bend Common Council asking for one representative from each body, to collaborate with this Commission in drafting any recommendations for policy. " Lynn Patrick: Can we second that motion? Todd Zeiger: Its already been seconded. Lynn Patrick: Are we ready to vote on it? All in favor? (Ayes heard) Any Opposition? (Aye) The motion carries with one against. Moved: Tim Klusczinski Second: Todd Zeiger Vote: 7 -1 Joann Sporleder Opposed 17