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eCITY OFSOUTH BEND OFFICE OF THE CLERK Mr. Horvath replied, It would cost more than what you would make on the system in the first (1') year. We can try to cost it out if you want. Committeemember Davis interjected, I would appreciate it. Because the whole thing is you just argued a case that we need to look at a long-term solution. You said that is why we are not using TIF dollars because we want to look at a long-term solution. So, my thought is if you're going to look at a long-term solution, we also have to look at a long-term approach to match the long-term solution. Mr.Horvath clarified, Meaning you want to go to impervious right off the bat? Is that would you're saying? Committeemember Davis replied, I mean, I would love to have everything set up. I mean we brag about having high tech, why can't we invest in all of that? We have a Tech Committee and the people on our Tech Committee are getting paid some high dollars in this City. So, I mean, everything else tech, they do some good stuff and I don't understand why they can't put that together. Councilmember Scott stated, What Councilmember Davis is saying, and I can agree with him, is there gap funding till you get to the point where you have the budget and the infrastructure put in place to do the income-based fee? And we don't even know what timeline that would be. Mr. Horvath replied, We don't have it in the budget. Could we go back and change the budget and take road money out and put it back into drainage? Sure. Committeemember Davis interrupted, I don't think we have to go back and take road money out. We can appropriate dollars. We are appropriating all the first (1st) readings for the next meeting. We can appropriate dollars for us to do this, we just need to know what the money is and what it is for us to do it right. We don't even need to compare this against roads. Mr. Horvath replied,Well it doesn't have to come from Roads but it has to come from somewhere. Councilmember Scott stated, I think, Councilmember Davis, you're thinking General Fund or somewhere. Committeemember Davis replied, Yes, that is what I'm thinking. Councilmember Broden stated,I have a couple of questions. On the residential and non-residential rates, how did you get to those rates? It would seem to me that averages are important, right? My gut instinct is that doing twice as more costs a little. Walk me through how we got to that. I'm in support of this because we are already paying for this either in the existing City budget. It's historical that we are stealing from one(1)area or another to get this done. We are kind of reactive. So we need something, right? So I support this and I acutely feel it. There is not a single street in the City of South Bend that is not impacted by this, right? Mr. Horvath replied, Sure. EXCELLENCE ACCOUNTABILITY INNOVATION INCLUSION EMPOWERMENT 455 County-City Building 227 W.Jefferson Bvld South Bend,Indiana 46601 p 574.235.9221 f574.235.9173 TTD 574.235.5567 www.southbendin.gov 8