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CITY OF SOUTH BEND i OFFICE OF THE CLERK Councilmember Broden continued, Per the maps that we saw during the budget process or that I know I saw during our flooding. There was a not a single street in the City of South Bend, or it was very low,who weren't affected. So we are already paying for it. I think we are acutely aware that our residents are already paying for this in terms of damage to their households,ok? So having said that, though, I want to make sure that on the simplified system, I appreciated the different variables that were gauged in the first (1st) draft of this. So help me with the two dollars ($2) and five dollars ($5). I'm just going to say it, five dollars ($5) seems like a low-ball number for a commercial property just based on wherewithal, right? In some regards and just size. So what informed, and I'll go back to the original question, this two dollars ($2) and five dollars ($5)? Mr. Horvath replied, So even to do any type of tiered rates, we would have to do two (2) things. One(1), we would have to calculate the amount of impervious surface on every single individual property. Otherwise, we can't figure out what tier they're in. Secondly, we would have to manipulate their bill. So the problem is,we would spend a lot of money doing that because we will have a firm come in, we'll figure out the impervious surface, then have someone come in and do each bill. And rather than spend that money and have someone pay twenty dollars ($20) a month instead of five dollars($5)but use that money for outside consulting,we wouldn't really reach our ability to do more projects. We thought to simplify it. It is not a perfect system. We will more toward a more perfect system although we know no system is always perfect. There are always winners and losers in any rate structure. So we will move to what most people perceive as a more equitable process by doing impervious surface which is what the majority of folks do. We wanted to initially establish these rates and make it simple so that we are not spending a lot of administration overhead dollars. Councilmember Broden followed up, Ok I got that and that does make sense. Now how about the assumptions that could be made from Assessor records? And then maybe an appeal process? I know how much sidewalk I have, you know what I'm saying? Those records that have that detail or those assumptions that could be made on the square footage and the roof that is over that square footage and then the driveway. Isn't that broken down in some regard already? Councilmember Voorde stated, All that information should be available in the Assessor's Office. Kara Boyles,Deputy Director of Public Works with offices located on the 13th floor of the County- City Building, stated, It is not. The actual impervious area is not calculated. The area of the parcel would be calculated. Councilmember Voorde interjected,Yeah the parcel but then if you take the square footage of the structure and the square footage of the parking lot, which are separate assessable items, subtract that from the size of the parcel, you could end up there. Ms. Boyles replied, This ordinance is by customer account which, again, makes it different than the traditional system that would have gone through the tax parcel. If you are an entity that has multiple accounts, you might have five (5)bills so you would be paying five(5) times. Councilmember Broden stated, So that was one(1) question. Committee Chair Teshka stated, If I could, we are way over time as it is and I know this is important,I have some questions myself and some things to add.We also still have to do the public EXCELLENCE ACCOUNTABILITY INNOVATION INCLUSION EMPOWERMENT 455 County-City Building 227 W.Jefferson Bvld South Bend,Indiana 46601 p 574.235.9221 f 574.235.9173 TTD574.235.5567 www.southbendin.gov 9