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Sassano: Because Ilike the terrace idea very much, and there are several of them on a couple of my favorite houses in that neighborhood. The pergola is rather foreign to that neighborhood and I agree with you that this is a rather inelegant pergola. And, I'm just not sure what its purpose is. It faces north so we're not really looking at sunshade. It's a dijjicult thing to design so that it doesn't look like a back porch and I was a little concerned that there's no indication of any kind of moldings or trims. You've got pretty simple 2x10 probably standing upright. It doesn't seem to have any scale that goes with the house. Dregits: I agree, and I didn't design this but I was thinking something more of a revival, something that would tie in with this architecture and not necessarily this pergola. Maybe something with an elliptical. Sassano: My concern really is that a front porch pergola is just not something that we see. And it's a pretty significant visual aspect, typically you'd have a low brick wall, possibly brick peers, pavers, beautiful hedging, nice lighting and I'm not so sure that the methodology of having four additional columns to the back or attaching it to the house... to me, to approve it, I'd expect to see a little more resolution and I don't know how we can approve it on his word that he's going to approve it. Dregits: I agree with that. Would you be willing to, if I render some drawings, would you be willing to...? Zeiger: We just need more information and more detail than what's here. Sassano: I would offer that you might want to build the terrace and come back if he could with a separate C ofA for the pergola. What that might do too is really give the owner a chance to mock it up and figure out what they might really want to do. But then you're not held up from getting the most important part done which is the access and the terrace. Hostetler: If the owners are amenable to amending their C ofA to come backfor the pergola at a later date and go ahead with the French doors and the patio that would be fine. Dregits: That would not hold up the process at all? Sassano: At least not the most importantpart. Klusczinski: Sir are you authorized to negotiate on behalf of the owners as far as the C ofA is concerned? Hostetler. The owners are here. K Griffith: We're right here. That's certainly fine with us. Klusczinski: Could we get your name and address on the record? K Griffith: Kevin Griffith, 1118 E Wayne. The project manager designed that and that's not in the aesthetic value of what we wanted to do. I'm fine with amending that and putting in the patio and the French doors and resubmitting something aesthetically more pleasing. Within our street, what I'm going towards, and would like some input, there are the free standing on our street which I don't' care for. So, we're wanting to put something more aesthetically pleasing connected to the house, but the free standing that we see in the neighborhood is not what we want. We want something more distinctive and more to the original flavor with the home. Sassano: Are we allowed to offer suggestions? Klusczinski: I'd like counsel to weigh in on something first. Larry, do we entertain public hearing before we ask for the C ofA to be modified or amended? Metiever. I think that it's a good idea to hear public comment just so that if there is any other comment then we can consider that as we discuss the entirety of the C ofA. So we should listen and see if there would be serious support or serious opposition to the proposal. Klusczinski: Ok, thank you very much. Any other questions for the petitioner? Chase: Personally I can see how this shelters the doors and doesn't make them quite as inviting for entrance, and for a better design ... I happen to have a pergola and they're marvelous. It would give a little more, well-yes, designed well. Dregits: Yes, I just saw this for the first time tonight. 3