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Chase: So if they're stored in the basement, is that an acceptable solution? <br />Klusczinski: Well, if they're stored in the basement, I think that legally we have no <br />mechanism for reviewing if that ever happens and to what extent that would satisfy us. It <br />sounds good, and I certainly believe that Dr. Enderle would do it, but what about the next <br />owner? And how about if boxes fall onto the sashes? And I think that the nicest way to <br />preserve the windows is to preserve them in place where they can function and satisfy the <br />dwelling. So, I'd rather see them on the house than in the basement because we have no <br />mechanism to make sure to make that happens, nor to make sure that no unfortunate <br />damage from the installation of sash pacs causing maybe the original windows not to go <br />right back in without more and more modifications. So, those are concerns that I have. I <br />try to standardize my decision making process from within this guidebook. I mentioned <br />before that it's the closest thing that we have to a contract with the neighborhood. And, I <br />did have the availability to sit on the local district standards committee to review this book; <br />in fact that's how I met many of you to begin with. And I know what the logic and the <br />sentiments were coming from the neighborhood at that time, and I know that our panel was <br />composed of people that were both for and against the ordinance in general, but for <br />whatever reason, we came together So with the understanding that windows are worth <br />keeping in place and everyone on our committee back then had no problem seeing that- I <br />don't represent that committee anymore, but I bring that here as an understanding of what <br />the entire district, I guess, found acceptable from the representatives that we had sit on that <br />committee. So, I mean...I'm a windows guy... <br />Sassano: And you make a very eloquent case, I must admit. I want to ask Mr. Enderle, do <br />you currently open the windows? And they operate pretty well? What would you say if I <br />told you that the chances of them opening as well will likely decrease when you put these <br />new ones in because with the pressure bar, there's every likelihood that they will jam. <br />Enderle: What I open, I open the window to the east and so, and I open the door of the <br />house, and the kitchen... <br />Sassano: Of the four windows that you have, do they all open pretty well? <br />Enderle: No, not all four. <br />Sassano: But that's something that's important to you? <br />Enderle: Yes. <br />Sassano: These new windows likely aren't going to open that well, are you aware of that? <br />Enderle: What I see, I also on the second floor, I can open ... I open the lower sash in winter <br />time and the upper sash in summer time. <br />Sassano: But do you appreciate that your new windows may not open? <br />Enderle: The question is... <br />Sassano: Well, the technology is such that they're going to get stuck. It's not a question of <br />the windows not really fitting, I think that by looking you can see that they're. square <br />enough to fit, but they may not be square enough to go up and down. <br />Enderle: That was my concern that I always had, you know. That's why, that was the main <br />reason that first I proposed the wood insert. Then you have the frame which is squared. <br />The thing is that the windows and the house is quite stable, I'm amazed to see that, but <br />quite right I can't guarantee if they'll really work. The main point why I want those is for <br />air conditioning. I don't have any air conditioning in my house, and I don't need it. I can <br />do it by opening those two different sashes and it works. <br />Riley: If you can't open these new windows then where are you? <br />Sassano: What we're suggesting and I think that we all agree that what's in the best <br />interest of your house is restoring those windows. I know that you don't believe that, but I <br />think that we.... <br />Enderle: I think that ifyou restore the windows then you'll have the same question about <br />squared.... <br />Sassano: No, you won't because they're already built and they can easily be adjusted. The <br />thing is ... you see, because you're using a weighted movement, not a pressurized unit, ok, <br />the weighted movement allows the window to go up and down in a non perfectly square <br />7 <br />