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Czarnecki: All over the house. The outside, we had it tested, and it's around the window <br />frames and the peeling paint on the house itself. <br />Sassano: What about the columns and the porch rails? <br />Czarnecki: I would assume that that does have paint. We would probably... what were <br />you going to do... ? <br />Payne: Yes, we would stabilize the paint. I'm not sure that they contain it or not. The <br />columns. <br />Sassano: So the only lead that you know of... was there a report submitted? So right now, <br />this is all just, I mean where does it come from, how do we know this is lead paint? <br />Czarnecki: Because I had Charles McManus do the lead based analysis. And you were <br />with him at the time, right? <br />Payne: No. I wasn't at the inspection. Normally they do provide a report. <br />Czarnecki: He never gave it to me. <br />Sassano: Isn't that kind of why we're all sitting here? I mean, without that report... <br />Payne: Just the verbal with Chuck he did say that there's lead paint, but I can't tell you <br />whether it was in the railing and columns but I can say that it is in the windows and <br />siding. <br />Klusczinski: Any other questions for the petitioner? <br />Payne: The columns actually look like they're in good enough structural condition that if <br />there was lead paint that it could be stabilized. <br />Sassano: What does that entail? <br />Payne: That entails any wet scraping and sanding that's necessary and then painting <br />over it. <br />Klusczinski: I'm personally curious- if you could stabilize and pass the HUD <br />requirements on elements that aren't the siding, by repainting them, couldn't that also be <br />the approach for the siding as well? <br />Czarnecki: Well, the cost to repaint the home, I'd gotten some bids, were around $15, 000 <br />to repaint this large home. It would be more applicable to reside it so that the house <br />doesn't have to continuously be repainted again. The cost of the siding is $26,000 which <br />would make it more marketable appearance wise. <br />Payne: That's siding, soft, fascia and also gutters. Seamless gutters. And the product, <br />unlike cement board is the same throughout, never needs painting or staining. It's 25% <br />stronger than cement board and it has a 40% overall better rating than cement board. It <br />retains water less, there's no face nailing, no caulking joints, it's a good product. It's a <br />composite made of plastic and wood fiber. <br />Klusczinski: Any other questions? <br />Czarnecki: I guess that I'd like to also say that we're not asking for a freebie from the <br />city just to get this grant, the owner is willing to put in another $19,000 into the repairs <br />that isn't going to be covered by the grant because of the windows and the siding cost is <br />not going to be enough so she's willing to pay the difference on that. <br />Klusczinski: Ok, thank you very much. <br />Czarnecki: Did you want to see any pictures of that? <br />Klusczinski: If you have any to present. <br />Czarnecki: And for the fascia they do have some beading material for the ornateness of <br />the house that will replicate what is on there now? <br />Sassano: But it only comes in the one 7 inch height size? <br />Payne: That's correct. <br />Klusczinski: Any other materials? One final question, is the property owner aware of the <br />current rating and designation of the house? It's listed as outstanding. <br />Czarnecki: I would assume that she would when she purchased it, I can't answer that no. <br />I would think when she purchased it that it was mentioned to her, but other than that... <br />Klusczinski: But you wouldn't be able to attest to that? <br />Czarnecki: No. <br />Klusczinski: Ok, thank you very much. <br />r'l <br />