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432 <br />carefully. It's like porcupine quills, when you pull those out it cracks out the jamb stock. <br />433 <br />Also not recommended is the new pine wood stock. They're not rot resistant. Existing <br />434 <br />jamb openings are out of square I think that's problematic. What is recommended in a <br />435 <br />window of this circumstances? The sashes are old growth poplar. Probably the wood for <br />M6 <br />A7 <br />this house came from within 50 miles or less of this house. Came from forests that were <br />native poplar and were humungous back then. The wood used would have been 100+ <br />438 <br />years old. That should be retained it's an important part of the house. Of course, the old <br />439 <br />glass is there, it's wavy; it's irregular, and its part of the history of the house that should be <br />440 <br />kept. Wood storm windows, or any kind ofstorm windows were not originally on the <br />441 <br />house. So, I do want to get that out there. However, having worked on federal historic tax <br />442 <br />credit projects before, those are allowed to be introduced. You would do it in such away <br />443 <br />with the appropriate historic hardware and do it in such a way that you didn't damage the <br />444 <br />surrounding window trim. At a later date, ifsomeone wants to remove those they can. I <br />445 <br />would recommend whether you actually approve replacement windows or restore the <br />446 <br />existing, slightly jack up the bay. It is tilting towards the west, and it's creating an <br />447 <br />irregular gap. And finally, I'd recommend weather stripping; it does a whole lot ofgood. <br />448 <br />My conclusion is that this property is outstanding. It's rated outstanding, it's an important <br />449 <br />neighborhood, and this is the one that's considered outstanding... one of only several in <br />450 <br />that neighborhood. We have an obligation to guard that. I would conclude that you need <br />451 <br />to deny the request for replacement windows. <br />452 <br />Patrick: Paul, I have one question for you. <br />453 <br />Hayden: Sure. <br />454 <br />Patrick: In the storm windows, and I know that you don't want to install them, but I just <br />455 <br />want to be clear. With the little hinge, they're never actually lifted up and put up and taken <br />456 <br />down, they just remain in place they just tilt out when you want them to? <br />457 <br />Hayden: Yes, and that is the option. You could take them down if you need to, or leave <br />458 <br />them for, and push them out for ventilation, they usually have a handle on the inside, pull <br />459 <br />them shut and then latch. <br />.�0 <br />Patrick: So the homeowner would have the option of taking them up and down or just <br />1 <br />kicking them out for ventilation? My neighbor does that on his. <br />462 <br />Hayden: It's what I've got on my own house. Thank you very much. <br />463 <br />Klusczinski: Another hand? <br />464 <br />Hodson: I'm Colin Hodson, and I live at 807 Ashland Avenue in Chapin Park. I want to <br />465 <br />first say that I'm not an expert in anything that has to do with old homes. However, I was <br />466 <br />on the second committee for the Chapin Park neighborhood association that worked on the <br />467 <br />standards, not the final committee that Tim was talking about, but the original body that <br />468 <br />took examples from other districts and came up with the base set of samples that was <br />469 <br />finalized into what we have today. I do have kind of a vested interested in that I already <br />470 <br />have a lot of hours dedicated to the principles that we're hoping to uphold by having those <br />471 <br />standards in place. That's about the only thing that I have intimate knowledge of other <br />472 <br />than my visual aid is a certificate that I got when I went to the 3 day workshop on restoring <br />473 <br />wood, double hung sash windows of the type that we're talking about today. I'm not a <br />474 <br />particularly handy guy, but what we did was took down, disassembled, restored and <br />475 <br />replaced 8 ft double hung windows in the old synagogue building, built in 1901. A new <br />476 <br />one. I understand though that double hung wood windows have not changed a whole lot <br />477 <br />over the years. I was amazed that the windows we took apart and I worked with a 19 year <br />478 <br />old girl, the two of us with the guidance of Bob Yapp, in one weekend, the two of us who <br />479 <br />had never done that before completed the window. I was amazed and astounded by what <br />480 <br />you can do. The techniques we used make the windows fit a little better. Since I did the <br />481 <br />seminar back in 2005, I've restored a number of the windows in my house, not all of them <br />--482--- <br />or as many as I should have, -but I've done them - We've repaired some pretty extensive - <br />483 <br />damage. When we got finished with it, _ it took two or three people to get those <br />=4 <br />counterweights back in and that top sash all the way up. The tops ofsashes are an arch. <br />=5 <br />When we got done they were just beautiful, some of them had, uh... well, that's irrelevant, <br />0 <br />
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