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378 unit. I think that we've all experienced in a window that's not open, the window can 379 actually jiggle around a little when it goes up and down. New windows require two 380 perfectly pressurized vinyl tracks and it's the consistency of it's pressure, what happens is 381 it goes up just like that then it sticks. 2 Endele: But then it's not insulating enough. IfI restore it, and maybe they go up and down 3 but there is a space between the sashes and the frame. 384 Sassano: That's easy to insulate with standard weather stripping. 385 Enderle: But I assume that they work, yes. 386 Klusczinski: I'm sure that's something that could be adjusted or remedied too. I'm sure 387 that the frames could be slightly racked or shimmed or something... 388 Sassano: The sash frame or the windows frame? 389 Klusczinski: The window frame. 390 Sassano: What you have to remember is that all of those windows were built on site and 391 they could have been built out of square. I mean, they were carpentry, they didn't order 392 them and off load them off of a truck. So if they're not square, that's how they were built. 393 Klusczinski: So it's an original example of craftsmanship now? 394 Sassano: Well, that was never in doubt. 395 Riley: Did you have a letter that you wanted to read? 396 Klusczinski: I did. 397 Riley: From.... 398 Klusczinski: I slipped it in... 399 Riley: From Joan... 400 Klusczinski: We're not at the public hearing yet. I'll try to hurry up. Very good. Thank 401 you professor. Is there any member of the public willing to speak in support of the 402 petition? Hearing none, seeing none. Is there any member of the public wishing to speak 403 in opposition to the current position? Name and address for the record sir. 404 Hayden: My name is Paul Hayden, and my address is 402 W Washington Street in South 405 Bend. For the last 30 years, I've worked as a restoration contractor in the West :R6 Washington district and the surrounding areas. For the last year I've been a preservation =7 consultant with Historic Landmarks Foundation. I'd like to take this opportunity to let you 408 know that I made a site visit to this property on 10/2/2007. I was able to inspect the 409 windows and sashes for this bay window in question. I just made some notes, and wanted 410 to review those. Sashes appeared to be original on all four, both upper and lower. The 411 corners on the upper sashes were loose so they had dropped down a bit and that was 412 causing gaps. Some of the wood at the bottoms was slightly soft, as some moisture had 413 gotten in there and some of the wood was creating rot. Window glaze was in pretty good to 414 fair condition. There was a minor amount of peeling paint, and I'd say that judging from 415 the amount of peeling, the windows had been painted in about the last five or so years. 416 There was a slight angle at the bottom of the sash where the sash met the sill. There was a 417 little bit of a gap there that would have to be addressed. That was not the fault of the 418 window; the bay has sunk slightly in the foundation. Some missing things were also 419 important- there was no sign of weather stripping on any of the windows. Nor any sign 420 that it had been applied. I didn't find any remnants of storm window hardware, that would 421 indicate to me that a wood storm window was not original. I just wanted to get that out 422 and say that out front. Also, what was a little unusual on these was the lack of a window 423 stop. In typical construction for double hung windows you'd have an upper sash that's 424 held in place by a window stop and then you have the outer casing. There was no window 425 stop on this which was a little different then you would typically see. So, based on that, I 426 want to make a few comments... here's what I feel strongly about; 1. the preservation creed, 427 first, do no harm. Don't tear out something that can be repaired. Leave it in place. Sash —428-----------pacs remove the original sashes; the glass;- the pulley system and damage the window --- 429 jambs. Having worked on houses that have sash pacs that rot and deteriorate over the =0 years, this is a problem that I want to impress upon- most window pulleys are pressed into 1 the sides of the jamb, many contactors just hack them out, they're very difficult to remove N.