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324 Chase: So if they're stored in the basement, is that an acceptable solution? 325 Klusczinski: Well, if they're stored in the basement, I think that legally we have no 326 mechanism for reviewing if that everhappens and to what extent that would satisfy us. It 327 sounds good, and I certainly believe that Dr. Enderle would do it, but what about the next �8 9 owner? And how about if boxes fall onto the sashes? And I think that the nicest way to preserve the windows is to preserve them in place where they can function and satisfy the 330 dwelling. So, I'd rather see them on the house than in the basement because we have no 331 mechanism to make sure to make that happens, nor to make sure that no unfortunate 332 damage from the installation of sash pacs causing maybe the original windows not to go 333 right back in without more and more modifications. So, those are concerns that I have. I . 334 try to standardize my decision making process from within this guidebook. I mentioned 335 before that it's the closest thing that we have to a contract with the neighborhood. And, I 336 did have the availability to sit on the local district standards committee to review this book; 337 in fact that's how I met many of you to begin with. And I know what the logic and the 338 sentiments were coming from the neighborhood at that time, and I know that our panel was 339 composed of people that were both for and against the ordinance in general, but for 340 whatever reason, we came together So with the understanding that windows are worth 341 keeping in place and everyone on our committee back then had no problem seeing that- I 342 don't represent that committee anymore, but I bring that here as an understanding of what 343 the entire district, I guess, found acceptable from the representatives that we had sit on that 344 committee. So, I mean...I'm a windows guy... 345 Sassano: And you make a very eloquent case, I must admit. I want to ask Mr. Enderle, do 346 you currently open the windows? And they operate pretty well? What would you say if I 347 told you that the chances of them opening as well will likely decrease when you put these 348 new ones in because with the pressure bar, there's every likelihood that they will jam. 349 Enderle: What I open, I open the window to the east and so, and I open the door of the 350 house, and the kitchen... 351 Sassano: Of the four windows that you have, do they all open pretty well? fi2 Enderle: No, not all four. �3 Sassano: But that's something that's important to you? 354 Enderle: Yes. 355' Sassano: These new windows likely aren't going to open that well, are you aware of that? 356 Enderle: What I see, I also on the second floor, I can open ... I open the lower sash in winter 357 time and the upper sash in summer time. 358 Sassano: But do you appreciate that your new windows may not open? 359 Enderle: The question is... 360 Sassano: Well, the technology is such that they're going to get stuck. It's not a question of 361- the windows not really fitting, I think that by looking you can see that they're square 362 enough to fit, but they may not be square enough to go up and down. 363 Enderle: That was my concern that I always had, you know. That's why, that was the main . 364 reason that first I proposed the wood insert. Then you have the frame which is squared. . 365 The thing is that the windows and the house is quite stable, I'm amazed to see that, but 366 quite right I can't guarantee if they'll really work. The main point why I want those is for 367 air conditioning. I don't have any air conditioning in my house, and I don't need it. I can 368 do it by opening those two different sashes and it works. 369 Riley: Ifyou can't open these new windows then where are you? 370 Sassano: What we're suggesting and I think that we all agree that what's in the best 371 interest of your house is restoring those windows. I know that you don't believe that, but I 372 think that we.... 373 Enderle: I think that if you restore the windows then you'll have the same question about ---374--------------squared....-------------- -- ------------------ --- -------- 375 Sassano: No, you won't because they're already built and they can easily be adjusted. The —6 thing is ... you see, becauseyou're using a weighted movement, not a pressurized unit, ok, —7 the weighted movement allows the window to go up and down in a non perfectly square - 7