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216 <br />Sassano: And so 1 just like the idea that we're not precluding other future options here. <br />217 <br />That to me is very valuable. <br />218 <br />Klusczinski: You had something Linda? <br />219 <br />Riley: I'd like to speak in favor of this, I was presently surprised to see that the staff <br />�0 <br />91 <br />recommended this after all that we've been through. When you look at these windows, <br />249 <br />unless you go right up to these windows and bang them and knock on them, you're not <br />222 <br />going to know the difference between the ones that they want to put in and the old ones. If <br />223 <br />you saw the window in his house, some of the window frames that the glass fits in is so <br />224 <br />rotted that it would have to be replaced anyway. The only difference being you're going to <br />225 <br />probably have a majority of the wood replaced, you're going to lose the original glass <br />226 <br />which is wavy and unique. <br />227 <br />Sassano: No, you can repair that wood without losing the glass, you can epoxy fill that. <br />228 <br />Riley: Well... <br />229 <br />Chase: We've brought that up a number of times. <br />230 <br />Riley: Well, ok, but I would like to see him have an energy efficient house and it's not going <br />231 <br />to lookfrom the street like... <br />232 <br />Sassano: I think that it's also important to note that in this area of the house, either for now <br />233 <br />or for opening to wall opening is significantly, is... in other words there's far more window <br />234 <br />opening than wall opening. I do think that it's worth noting that when we look at a lot of <br />235 <br />the other windows there's a lot of wall in this house and I'm not sure that the gain to <br />236 <br />energy efficiency is going to be as great as sealing cracks, as insulating, as things like that. <br />237 <br />Throughout the rest of the house, we're looking at a much smaller percent of the openings. <br />238 <br />But you know I can appreciate the value in this one spot where it's almost all glass. So I do <br />239 <br />see this as a somewhat unique condition in this house due to percentage of window to wall. <br />240 <br />Klusczinski: And how would future boards or petitioners differentiate that particular <br />241 <br />aspect especially when those qualifications aren't spelled out in the guidelines? <br />242 <br />Sassano: I appreciate your question. <br />243 <br />Klusczinski: I think that any window in this house is now at libertyfor change because of <br />4 <br />these four. <br />5 <br />Sassano: Sure. <br />246 <br />Klusczinski: If these are original, those are too. <br />247 <br />Sassano: Sure, I mean precedent is something that we always have to say, I can only offer - <br />248 <br />that not being terribly familiar with the guidelines until recently, I'm a little surprised to <br />249 <br />not see a specific set of statements regarding energy efficiency. I can only tell you that in <br />250 <br />the Secretary of the Interior's standards, it says quite a bit about it. And maybe that's <br />251 <br />something that we need to consider addressing. <br />252 <br />Klusczinski: Did you have something to say, or were you... ? <br />253 <br />Patrick: I'm just listening. <br />254 <br />Klusczinski: Any one else with comments? <br />255 <br />Chase: Am I to understand that this proposal would be acceptable to keep the look to the <br />256 <br />original? <br />257 <br />Klusczinski: I wouldn't want to comment on that. <br />258 <br />Chase: And that's just what I needed to know if this proposal is going to duplicate the look <br />259 <br />that's there with the change in glass to give you double pane and either repairing or <br />260 <br />replacing pieces of wood. That this is going to solve the security in the home with a <br />261 <br />warmer window vs changing the sill in all the way we talked. Is this proposal going to be <br />262 <br />more to the original look? <br />263 <br />Klusczinski: To each his own. <br />264 <br />Sassano: My opinion is that visually the lines will be the same. <br />265 <br />Chase: Ok. <br />--266------------- <br />Sassano: -The sticking point here is how one interprets the guidelines which could suggest -- <br />267 - <br />that if the window can at all be repaired that it must be repaired. <br />�8 <br />Chase: Well that was our contention, but the problem with that was we didn't know if the <br />_�9 <br />fill pac could go in. <br />5 <br />
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