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Enderle: That was the point. Mr. Schoberg was to repair the window as it is because <br />you told me this is not beyond repair. And I say, Okay, Mr. Schoberg, please repair this <br />window with single pane and we take this and compare with my solution my test, <br />Catherine Hostetler <br />Klusczinski: But the single pane will always lose to a double pane unless you introduce <br />a storm window solution. <br />Enderle: Well that was the question... your forced me to put either interior or exterior <br />storm windows and I don't accept that. I am happy that I was fighting against exterior <br />storm windows. If you look, it would be a shame for my house. And I could not <br />understand why some Commissioners wanted me to have exterior storm windows on my <br />house I mean this is, it is not, but I understand that it would destroy the appearance of the <br />house. <br />Klusczinski: It would be less invasive than <br />Enderle: And now we are discussing half inches.....It's a little more disportionate <br />Zeiger: It is more than that ... it's more than a half inch.—The over all affect is 21/8 <br />inches in height and that is a significant change. <br />Klusczinski: Any other questions for the petitioner? <br />Zeiger: The one thing that we talked about, but I don't see explored, was the installation <br />of sash packs where you don't have to have the whole frame where you can replicate the <br />exact size of the windows with what are called Marvin Sash Packs or other similar <br />units—or makes... <br />Enderle: It was on the table <br />Zeiger: It's not what you have applied for. <br />Enderle: The tilt pack could be put into the existing frame work. Plus also proposed by _ <br />Joann Sporleder and I was:.. <br />Klusczinski: Joann Sporleder was a member of this Commission and did not propose <br />anything. <br />Enderle: It was it is in the minutes... <br />Klusczinski: What she suggested was an alternative which did not represent what you <br />proposed on that C of A <br />Enderle: I said yes <br />Zeiger: Have we ever had a COA that had a tilt pack? <br />DeRose: Let me just cut to the chase here. You have a certificate of Appropriateness for <br />this item four Marvin Replacement windows in the bay area wood something or other, <br />insert double hung, double pane upgraded to Low E2 with Argon gas period. That is all <br />that is before the Commission. The only thing that you can take action on tonight. So <br />that is what you need to do. If there are, if that is approved, then fine; if it is disapproved <br />you'll come back with another application. <br />Enderle: May I add one point. I make it brief. I am willing to continue to cooperate <br />with the Commission and I was very pleased that Jerry Ujdak came and we had a good <br />conversation and if I know that I can have the sash as it is but restore with two, double <br />pane and it is acceptable from a quality point of view from a cost point of view, today, I <br />don't know if that is the case and certainly I have time to check that because I am not <br />going to fix the problem now in January or February. We can find out the solution there, <br />but the point made by Professor Rodes, and this is my point, that these are details and I <br />appreciate your advice but I think that you cannot force me to buy one particular window <br />12 <br />