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give them the option to at least remove the aluminum siding for an evaluation and then <br />the HPC staff could go there and chime in on the condition of the clapboard? <br />Peterson: I guess what you're asking is ifyou take it off, just take it off, and leave it to <br />staff to approve, that is you would approve it if they find "x" then you could in a sense, <br />with their consent, operate in that fashion. I think that there's a little more consensus in <br />removing only the aluminum and not make any findings on what to do next. My question <br />is which of those two are you leaning towards? The one where you approve subject to a <br />staff determination, or do you want them to come back to you to make a final <br />determination on what's going to happen after it's removed? <br />Klusezinski: The way that it would play out in my mind is that f rst of all, and with <br />respect for the petitioner, I'm not sure that we have enough information right now so that <br />we can understand and interpret the other case example that they gave to lend itself to <br />failure in this case. I think that there are a number of other things happening. I'm <br />willing to put that on the back burner for the time being. All paint jobs won't fail, and I <br />know that despite having one clear example for whatever reason it did. So what I would <br />like to do is somehow craft a motion after public hearing of course, that we would give <br />them the allowance to take off the aluminum siding and certainly staff could go over <br />there and make an evaluation. If they did not want to paint at that point and preserve the <br />original elements of the building, then they would have to come back and we would <br />entertain whatever cladding they wanted at that point. I just don't think that we know <br />enough now, we're trying to second guess too many things. <br />Peterson: Right, exactly. I think that's what you're getting at. This application appears <br />to be incomplete in the sense that there's not enough information on it to make the <br />determination. That said, is the NNN willing to modify its application to provide for the <br />removal of the aluminum siding only, because as it is, otherwise we have to table it and <br />with their consent go beyond the 30 day requirement and consider it at the next meeting <br />and hopefully at that time have more information. <br />Klusczinski: And again, as Liz mentioned, it might be at the .board's pleasure that they <br />want to leave the aluminum siding in tact and maybe not go ahead with the exploration <br />so that's certainly an option for the AWN. <br />Peterson: Are you willing to extend your, I guess, those are the options... <br />Klusezinski: Are you empowered to negotiate for the NAW as far, as this C of A is <br />concerned? <br />Maradik: Well, I guess one of the question that we would have is if it were, if staff were <br />to come out and evaluate it, would it have to come back to a Commission meeting to be <br />approved? <br />Klusczinski: I think that new siding, anything other than paint, would have to come back <br />for approval. <br />Maradik: Ok, just because I know that work has already started and this is a potential <br />site for Arts Cafe this year so they want to make things happen as soon as possible. <br />Zeiger: I have some comments when I get to the Commission side, it's probably not for <br />conversation with the applicant. <br />Sporleder: Relative to that, if we approve the other siding, I think that I would concur <br />with what Todd was saying that I think that we'd need some details on how the trim and <br />the siding were going to mesh, so that we have a clear understanding of haw that was to <br />be done because at the moment, it's an unknown aspect. You don't know it either, none <br />of us know how the siding meets trim, if there is any trim, and if there's no trim then what <br />do we do. A small detail of that would be helpful in how that's going to be handled. I <br />would feel personally more comfortable approving the other siding once I understood <br />that we all knew how it was going to be done. <br />Klusczinski: Sure. We've kind of rolled into Commission discussion on the topic, is <br />there, or are there any other comments from... <br />Zeiger: Yeah, I'll just throw it out there. I'm not opposed to the cement board siding at <br />all, I don't like, personally, I'm not being disrespectful to your opinion, but this is an <br />0 <br />
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