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Lynn Patrick: I would like to interject that "Original windows and doors shall be retained, including sashes, lintels; sills, shutters, decorative glass, pediments, hoods and hardware. When deteriorated beyond repair, they shall be replaced with units and trim resembling the original." I do not find these windows to be deteriorated beyond repair. Joann Sporleder: But, they are asked to be replaced with material that resembles very closely in terms of scale, size and dimensions the original. Lynn Patrick: But they are not... Joann Sporleder: They are deteriorated beyond repair of using them as insulated windows. They are going to remain single pane windows which are still single pane windows. Tim Klusczinski: I have an issue with the fact that the examples that Professor Enderle sponsors for replacement of the existing openings do not match in full profile with respect especially the sill extension, sill -nose height, as well as the cladding, which would distort them from the original in-kind material suggested by the architecture. It is also speculation, and I would caution everyone, not to suggest that restoration for a single, pane window would not have an extremely beneficial enhancement or provide Professor Enderle with that because it has not been done and we don't know how much is air infiltration and we don't know how much is thermal transfer. With that in mind, that it seems like the most logical approach would be to suggest that since there is still a restoration option, that replacements should not be ordered at this point or allowed and that what can be done to the windows, be done, and then in light of what other mechanical advancements that we have with respect to interior and exterior storms, that those also could be proposed to enhance what I think will be a very cost effective and wonderful solution using single pane glass. Joann Sporleder: I'd like to stress the issue of exterior storms. They simply cannot be allowed. On those windows they would be an historical inaccuracy, there is no indication that those windows at any time in their past have ever had exterior storms or exterior screens. Further, there is no place in the trim of the windows to install them without putting them exteriorly or on top of the existing trim which architecturally is unacceptable. Lynn Patrick: I would like to add to what I hear what Commissioner Sporleder is saying but I also would like to add to what Commissioner Klusczinski said, the possibility of perhaps taking one of the windows and seeing if we could apply one of the solutions that the Preservation Commission is suggesting make a test case out of one of the windows. Joann Sporleder: So far the Commission hasn't suggested anything, except negative comments. Lynn Patrick: I didn't get that... 7