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Catherine Hostetler: I would like to reiterate Martha's sentiment about the original fabric of the house. I think those windows, in my opinion, can be restored using the techniques that we have available, what we have learned in workshops, what we have sent our staff down to, to learn the skills to do that. I truly believe that these windows can be made weather tight using as much of the original fabric of those windows as is there today, having them re -glazed and then exploring the options of interior versus exterior storms. The argument for using storm windows on the interior because your want to have ventilation through the house is certainly understandable but usually you don't use storm windows in the winter time in a breakfast nook and want ventilation at the same time So have storm windows on the interior, just for that time of year, I don't think is going to be that invasive and shouldn't stop you from getting the air dynamics in your house working properly. So you could use, as a compromise, interior storms, just in that particular area and maintain those original windows. I also think that you may have other issues going on, that aren't just the windows. I think that there have been foundation issues on that bay, because you can see on that bay some of the molding isn't quite level; that there might be some other issues going on here that putting new windows in, isn't going to solve that problem. In fact you might be opening up a huge can of worms and have take out all of those new windows and rebuild that whole bay area. So I think that we will really need to explore this after seeing the structure with the possibility that there might be some foundation issues. Otherwise what you may be doing, Professor, is compounding a problem that needs to be addressed at a more fundamental level. I would call for not only restoration of the windows but investigation into the foundation of the house so that when you do come up with a solution it's the best one for you and the best one for the house. Joann Sporleder: May I speak? I would like to address some of the things that Catherine brought up. One, there is a lot of suppositions in that and supposes. I think that this is an inappropriate time to think what might happen if he allowed to do what he is proposing to do. Also neither Tim nor Catherine's suggestions of what to do, if Tim made suggestions, of how to solve the problem of a single pane windows which are very uncomfortable to live next to. Everybody knows and we all acknowledge that the original windows can be retro fitted in a sense, rebuilt and sustained so that the caulking works, the windows work and all the rest of the things work. However, we are still stuck at that juncture with single pane glass which is, as Wayne has said, no insulating characteristics, whatsoever. So what we are suggesting, I think, here is that Professor Enderle despite two years of investigating this problem of how to solve it, especially the four windows in the dining room, that his living and living and trying to come to some understanding of how he can best solve the other problem of making the house comfortable and livable without stretching plastic over the windows every year or leaving it on year after year after year. It's obvious that these windows, all of them, have led to a variety of attempts to make the house more comfortable and energy efficient at some point. And, I think that we should make more effort at understanding his solution to this problem. Unless, and I refer this to Counsel, unless our standards actually say that the aluminum clad wooden windows are not allowed. If our standards actually say that, then all this discussion is pointless. Thank you. IN