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because there's nothing here that tells me that these will look exactly like the current do when you get them in. GE: From outside, the frame will remain exactly the same. From inside, we put in the replacement windows, and the color is exactly the same as it is outside. You will not see any change from outside. MC: Are you saying that you're going to leave all of these windows in, and put another window inside it? GE: We keep the frame from outside as it is exactly. And from inside, it's the same... it's a new window but with the same frame and the same square inches. From outside, we don't want to touch anything. JS: Inaudible from mark 796-798 on tape. So what we don't have are the dimensions of the original. The only thing that was not understood here ... (unintelligible)... GE: I really want to guarantee you that from outside; I want the windows and the frame to look exactly as they look now, no changes. And I ... it is very important; I have looked at this house hundreds of times... From mark 807-812 on tape, conversation is inaudible. Those speaking stepped away from their respective microphones. LP: While they're discussing that, for the sake of everyone present, I'd like to point out that the certificate of appropriateness is for a single unit, all wood, aluminum clad exterior ... I think that we have a failure to communicate. AM May I remind the commissioners that no part of that conversation is being recorded for the record? That will make the minutes incomplete. From mark 814-820 on tape, conversation is inaudible. LP: You have three more minutes. From mark 821-826 on tape, conversation is inaudible LP: We are back to our regular portion of our meeting after a brief sidebar. Joann, are you clear, do you have a brief comment? JS: Because of a lack of understanding of the very well presented cross section detail of the window, of the replacement window which has the insulated glass, it would appear that the replacement window, if I understand this drawing correctly, and I'm not sure that I do, that the replacement window would more accurately replicate the appearance of the original window than putting in the storm window. It is quite clear from the drawing that the storm window would involve two things that are not original, in that the width of the current frame would be wider than the original... trails off to inaudible. LP: I would also like to ask Wayne Doolittle our preservation specialist who has been onsite, if you have a brief comment that you'd like to make in this regard. WD: This is a really d ffcult thing to assess, what I would like to see... trails off to inaudible. From mark 842-848 on tape, conversation is inaudible. Cause unknown. LP: We all want a good outcome and I'm looking at the staff report, you have a local landmark, and when you bought it, it was a landmark. And professor you have outstanding credentials, international business, and you are in one of the newest and largest of our historic districts, and the eyes of the preservation world are upon us, and I sincerely want a positive outcome. One that preserves the historic integrity and one that honors you and your commitment to preservation, and yet is compliant to the standards guidelines as written. If there are no further comments... SP: Just from the application its difficult... the question that you're asking the board to do is very difficult with the information in the application doesn't seem to be a concise question, with the n