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JOANN SPORLEDER: One was already wrecked and so that was a replacement and then the one on the south end was already half destroyed, at least in July, and it was obvious that it was falling apart for quite some time and something was in the works to get it fixed. TODD ZEIGER: I have a question about your legal advice. I guess my question about what you were talking about not weighing the fact that the work has already been done; I am concerned about that with regard to us setting a precedent for somebody just to go ahead and do the work and then come in for a C of A. ALADEAN DEROSE: Occasionally some people will violate the rules and will not do the appropriate thing and will be forced to redo the work but if someone accidentally or for whatever reason comes in that has pre -done work that is in keeping with all of the rules I don't think we can punish that person by requiring that person to redo the work simply because they failed to obtain the prior C of A. All I am saying is look at it as if it were an initial C of A without any resolutions. TODD ZEIGER: So a future applicant can't use approval tonight as a precedent for saying you approved such and such and they had already done the work. ALADEAN DEROSE: Not at all. All you would be saying by granting this C of A is that the owner had preformed the work in an historically appropriate way. JOHN OXIAN: So in other words when we make a motion like we have done before on something like this then we should put in there specifically that this is not a precedent and give the reasons why we approved it and that this is first and last. ALADEAN DEROSE: Right. TODD ZEIGER: One of my concerns, Joann, is simply the fact the guidelines talk about replication when there is an existing element which was in place by photographic evidence this summer and it talks about if it's not available in more with keeping and I don't agree with the fact that the Doric is more in keeping; the fact that the guidelines are there to protect those elements that are unique to the district. Those capitals were unique and we should have had a conversation about what happens to them before they were replaced. The fact that that they didn't pull a building permit concerns me and that would have triggered the C of A process to begin with and we would have had our conversation about that and maybe be able to help find a location for them. I appreciate your research; but, in our guidelines there it talks about more and I'm not buying into the fact that the Doric are more when the fact is that there was an historic element there. ALADEAN DEROSE: Well you have a committee recommendation so you have to decide whether to accept the committee's recommendation or vote it down. DIANA MATTHIAS: I live at 840 Park Avenue. I hoped the committee would have read the quite long statement that my husband and I sent to you. My husband apologizes for not being here and the reason is written in the statement that we sent you. We would have certainly submitted the C of A before now had we realized we were meant to do so. During the period in March when the neighborhood became part of the historical preservation area I was away in England looking after my mother who in fact died on March the 14`h the very day when the Chapin Park Local Historic District was established. My husband was not well during this period and may have missed mailings or circulars. At any rate we had no idea that we were meant to submit the C of A. It is our understanding that a pre -ordinance guidebook was mailed to residents of the area on or about September the 24`h, 2004. We may have received this guidebook at the time but N.