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t I would suggest the use of interior storm windows, although it is certainly conceivable that custom varieties could be manufactured to f t within the 7!8" exterior trim. Again from Preservation Brief no.9, "Consider energy ejjiciency as one of the factors far replacements, but do not let it dominate the issue. Energy conservation is no excuse for the wholesale destruction of historic windows which can be made thermally efficient by historically and aesthetically acceptable means. In fact, a historic wooden window with a high quality storm window added should thermally outperform a new double -glazed metal window which does not have thermal breaks (insulation between the inner and outer frames intended to break the path of heat f low). This occurs because the wood has far better insulating value than the metal, and in addition many historic windows have high ratios of wood to glass, thus reducing the area of highest heat transfer. " Evidence obtained from an earlier, on-site investigation revealed that the subject windows are NOT "beyond" repair, a prerequisite for replacement in the Chapin Park Historic District as outlined within the Guidelines and Standards booklet. When permitted, the Chapin Park Guidelines and Standards demand in-kind replacements with respect to material, style and scale. The proposed replacements differ in several ways. Here are two examples: Original windows are all wood with painted surfaces. In contrast the replacements exhibit an aluminum -clad, wood core. The proposed Marvin inserts are designed for installation atop the original sill and below the original head rail. This will alter the appearance of the original view by creating a double sill. This is not a desirable alteration. "Technical Preservation Services recommends the retention and repair of original windows whenever possible, " They "believe that the repair and weatherization of existing wooden windows is more practical than most people realize, and that many windows are unfortunately replaced because of a lack of awareness of techniques for evaluation, repair, and weatherization. Wooden windows which are repaired and properly maintained will have greatly extended service lives while contributing to the historic character of the building. Thus, an important element of a building's significance will have been preserved for the future. " It is unfortunate, but true that C of A #2006-1108-A succeeds in testing the spirit and the letter of the newly installed Chapin Park LHD Guidelines and Standards. My rejection of that proposal is intended to honor that document, knowing full well that other more complete solutions are better suited for this grand and magnificent local landmark. Patrick: Couldn't have said it better myself. Chase: Mary Jane Chase, and I vote nay. I don't think that I've heard all the research has been for various aluminum clad, and the research has not been into proper craftsmen to redo the windows. The research has all been one-sided so far. Patrick: Remember to address the standards, and the detriment and the hardship. Chase: In keeping with the district, you are starting a new district and what happened years ago happened before it was historic. Now you have to keep the integrity of the district up and maintain the homes and when you have something as fantastic and beautiful as this one, it would be an abortion to ruin that. Zeiger: Todd Zeiger, I also vote no. I'd like to echo and include in my remarks what Tim mentioned, and I'd also like to add as far as the appropriateness I don't feel that this proposal, it does not follow the guidelines. It is intending to introduce materials and dimensions that are not there now, its not replicating the original opening, its narrowing it down with an additional sill and header and jamb, its introducing new materials that are not found on this house and the additional window sill and jambs add a dimension and change the proportion and scale of the building that's not acceptable. There's been information presented that the windows can not be restored, nor were bids for the same provided, and as a matter of fact the applicant acknowledged that the windows can be redone. As far as the detriment, I think that allowing this to move forward would be a, would really diminish the character of the neighborhood generally if it were allowed to happen over and over, and in particular to the fabric of this building. I don't think that there's been a demonstrated hardship to the applicant, and he's not given us any options other than what's been provided, and that's the reasons for my no vote. Hostetler: Catherine Hostetler, I am voting no. This is a local landmark, it's a most significant house, and is the second most significant house in the Chapin Park neighborhood. I think that its more than just a window issue, I feel that it's a foundation issue in the bay. Putting brand new ll