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6. NEWIBUSINESS (Cont'd) comment was, "Well, then I stand to be corrected. I understood from this Commission that sometime in the last several weeks that this has been turned over -- including the $6,000 that was appropriated for cleaning these pools., last Januarys by this Commission." Mr. Slabaugh replied, "Co.ntract'No.' 5 is still an active contract! YOU SAW to that when you nailed that $8,000.00 down in the Hickey contract. Hickey still ownes that pool that you are speaking of down there." The Chair requested that this be cleared, and asked Mr. Brownell, "Are these the City's responsibility, or are they ours? Mr. Brownell said they he understood that they have been turned over to the Board of Works and the Chair said that was his understanding also. Mr. Slabaugh said, "That is not true, unless you have turned it over since last Monday." Mr. Brownell said that he had talked to Mr. Farrand about it. Mr. Butler, Commission Legal Counsel, stated that his understanding is that the, Commission has never approved that Contract No. 5 - -a completion certification - -or that a comparable document has never been approved by this Commission. And if that isn't correct? Mr.` Brownell replied, "That's right. In other words, there are still some maintenance items for Hickey to go over. In fact, we held back $8,000 to guarantee that those would be delivered; and, therefore, we have do not have a completion on that. Commissioner Wiggins' response, "All right, if not completed, then can it, in fact, be turned over ?" Mr'. Brownell said that we have tried to turn over the operation of the fountains to the Board of Works is over the Plaza authority. The Chair responded that by now, they lost him in the understanding and he still didn't know, "Are they the City's responsi- bility, or are they ours? Because when Ed talked to me the other day, I said it was the City's responsibility." Mr. Brownell said he understood in talking to Mr. Farrand, that the Plaza Authority, which is appointed by the Mayor - -the same as the Board of Works- -had taken control of and were operating the fountains in the Plaza." Mr. Butler replied to Mr. Brownell's comment, "I think the legal responsibility is ours; we have the responsibility under the contract." President Nimtz said, "Well, then I was wrong when I said that to you the other day (speaking to Mr. Soltesz)." Mr. Soltesz said that it is quite all right and that it kind of clears the air. "Then, I am going to ask, "What happened to the $6,000 in chemicals that.was to be used along with a steam cleaning unit that was appropriated by this Commission, awarded to the Board of Public Works, and to the authority of Mr. Slabaugh for the cleaning of these pools ?" Mr. Slabaugh replied that they are in use daily. The chemicals and all, as they cannot all be put in the pools at one time. Mr. Soltesz replied that he is not playing 'Monday morning quarterback' with this thing, because of the fact that, "I told'you so.' I have been standing before this Commission and before.these meetings many times talk- ing about these pools. Now, I received the last phone call on the pools not operating and the way that they look. We spent quite a bit of money on the pool by Jefferson Boulevard that has the black stones. I don't know whether they came from'the Hudson Bay area, or where they came from, but the people that designed these pools., 'it was 'a thing of novelty!' Now the pool in itself is not ' black' - -it's gray.' Here's the stone I - 24 -