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								    REGULAR MEETING JUNE 23, 2008  
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<br />not civilized.  That does not belong in a civilized society, especially in an electronic  
<br />world where people are dependent on those public libraries to apply for jobs and any  
<br />number of other things.  The computers that are available at the library are used by poor  
<br />people who don’t have computers or computer access in their homes.  That’s criminal,  
<br />that’s not civilized.  South Bend has public schools that are suffering, this is keeping the  
<br />city from becoming all that it can become.  She stated that residents wants to be forward  
<br />looking and want new development in many places in the city.  TIF money should not be  
<br />used for that, because the new tax base that results from that is not available to the city as  
<br />whole for too long of a time.  
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<br />Ms. Kelly Havens, 12032 Timberline Trace North, Granger, Indiana, stated that a TIF  
<br />district is based on the assumption that you are dealing with a blighted area.  She would  
<br />argue that a lot of green space on the west side of the city is not blighted.  She stated that  
<br />everyone has already been informed that the State has declared that if your TIF district is  
<br />already healthy funded and able to fund itself, you don’t need to be expanding it, without  
<br />going through and extensive process after July 1, 2008.  If they think that process is  
<br />important to preventing actions that don’t make economic sense why does it make sense  
<br />to scurry in and take that action before there is any time to really review whether it makes  
<br />any sense?  TIF’s remove money that would otherwise reduce the tax burden for all the  
<br />rest of the taxpayers.  If  new companies do move in, instead of all of their new taxes that  
<br />they start paying going to help the school corporation, going to help the libraries, going to  
<br />help the city and going to help the county, general government, all the rest of taxpayers  
<br />have to make up whatever money their not putting into the coffers.  That money just gets  
<br />set aside for use for infrastructure and there are only a certain number of streets and  
<br />fountains, trees, and lights that can be put in.  How much sense does it make to have a pot  
<br />that is currently sitting 27 million dollars for doing more fountains, more landscaping,  
<br />more fancy lampposts, when you’ve got a school corporation that desperately needs  
<br />money, and a county that is worried about keeping all of it’s police officers, and a city  
<br />that is concerned about it’s parks, and libraries that can’t stay open as the previous  
<br />speaker mentioned.  Why does it make sense to keep pooling the money for use on  
<br />infrastructure in that area and ask all of the taxpayers outside of that area to instead come  
<br />up with all of those millions of dollars to go ahead and take care of the schools, etc?  Of  
<br />course everyone wants to see growth, but why would the taxpayers be excited when they  
<br />see a new business going in, if we know that their tax dollars are never going to help  
<br />everyone else.  The taxpayers will have to keep providing the money that they would  
<br />have been providing if they hadn’t been TIF’ed, but because they are TIF’ed there money  
<br />is just all going into a special little pot and it isn’t just that the taxpayer’s aren’t going to  
<br />get their money it’s were going to be pouring money into them, just as the previous  
<br />speaker mentioned, they are going to have fire, police, emergency services needs and that  
<br />is going to come from the taxpayers.  So the taxpayers are not just going to lose what  
<br />they would have brought to the community, but the taxpayers are paying to have them  
<br />come here.  It’s a double burden on taxpayers at a time when the last thing wanted is to  
<br />create higher taxes in St. Joseph County.  Finally, for what ever reason, TIF’s have not  
<br />been working on the west side.  Blackthorn after all of these years is pretty much  
<br />regarded as a failure.  Buildings moved in a few of them, and then once abatement’s ran  
<br />out them moved into the new phase, to get new abatement’s and once those ran out then  
<br />they left.  Portage Prairie has been around how many years now, and it has one building,  
<br />and the taxpayers are supposed to be enthused.  That building didn’t create any jobs, or so  
<br />few that they were not worth mentioning apparently.  Everyone looks at University Park  
<br />Mall and says why not here?  She stated that everyone needs to seriously ask themselves  
<br />how many University Park Malls can any area reasonably sustain.  She argued that boat  
<br />has already been floated, that has already happened.  You cannot do that again, in an  
<br />economy that is based on service, without manufacturing to sustain it, we are all going to  
<br />sell stuff to each other, and ultimately, the area cannot thrive as an economic community  
<br />if only service centers are created.  There is a reason why the State put the skids on this  
<br />kind of speculation, and the Council should seriously consider at least giving the  
<br />additional couple of weeks that it would take to sort through all of this, instead of jump  
<br />the gun and bypass the wisdom of the State.  
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<br />Ms. Marilyn Gashaw, 2514 W. Kenwood, South Bend, Indiana, stated that she is  
<br />speaking on behalf of herself tonight.  She stated that she grew up in South Bend,  
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