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REGULAR MEETING JULY 8, 1974 <br />COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING (CONTINUED) <br />have been discussions with representatives from St. Joseph's Hospital and Memorial Hospital and th <br />Medical Association for the implementation of a paramedic ambulance unit for the City of South Ben <br />He stated that, during 1973, about one out of every five ambulance runs out of a total of 5,700 co <br />have employed a paramedic unit. He stated that the funds would be used for the purchase of the <br />necessary telemetry equipment.to convert one of the city's ambulances into such a unit. He briefl <br />explained the program, stating that the Department of Public Safety would assign three firefighter <br />to paramedic training which would be conducted under the supervision of the Medical Society and th <br />cooperation of the local hospitals. The training program was anticipated to last approximately 50 <br />hours. The Bureau of Fire would then operate the paramedic unit out of one of the two hospitals <br />and have the capability of transporting patients to either hospital. The training would be on -goi <br />as the paramedics would be assigned eight hours a day to answer calls from the hospital and would <br />work in the emergency rooms under the supervision of the doctors and nurses when not actually on <br />emergency calls. Mr. Gallagher indicated that the McGann ambulance service would also equip one o <br />its ambulances as a paramedic unit and would provide personnel to work with the Bureau of Fire par <br />(medic unit. He indicated that the amount of $9,000 was requested for the purchase of two portable <br />radios, battery chargers, installation, a mobile repeator and a defibrillator. The amount of <br />$2,500 was requested to provide for the training program and to contract with the hospitals and th <br />schools of nursing for essential training, with $750 needed for essential supplies over and above <br />telemetry equipment in order to equip one of the ambulances as a paramedic unit. Mr. Gallagher fe <br />the program was a very worthwhile program and the amount requested for the program was incidental <br />when it was used to help save lives. <br />Miss Virginia Guthrie, Consultant and member of the Board of Directors of the Civic Planning <br />Association, wondered about the on -going costs of the program. Mr. Gallagher stated that the on- <br />going costs would be personnel and replacement of the equipment. He stated that only one ambulance <br />would be dedicated to the program and three men would be trained for the paramedic program. <br />Ultimately there would be six men; however, only three would go through the paramedic training. <br />Mr. David Anderson, Assistant Administrator of St. Joseph's Hospital, stated that the program was <br />cooperative joint effort of the hospitals, and the hospitals would participate in the training of <br />the paramedics and monitoring of the program. Dr. Eldred MacDonell, a specialist in internal <br />medicine, testified for the medical need and urgency of the program and talked about the number of <br />persons that die enroute to the hospital. He stated that the program was in operation in Evanston, <br />Illinois, and the results were very satisfactory in saving lives. Councilman Kopczynski wondered <br />about the operating costs of the program per year. Mr. Gallagher stated that basically the same <br />cost for operation of the ambulance would be anticipated for the paramedic unit, that being approxi <br />mately $9,000. He stated that, if the equipment breaks down, it would have to be replaced and ther <br />would be an expense incurred. He was hopeful that the new equipment would last a couple years. <br />Fire Chief Bland stated that $126,000 was needed per year to operate the ambulance program of two <br />units, including salaries. Mr. McGann of the McGann Funeral Home and Ambulance Service, stated tha <br />50a of the cost to him would be between $45,000 and $50,000 a year at a minimum. Councilman <br />Kopczynski wondered why the city did not make an effort to collect ambulance fees, and Mr. Gallaghe <br />stated that he felt this was a service provided to the citizens as a part of their tax dollars. <br />Councilman Kopczynski talked about the use of firemen to run the city's ambulances. He stated that <br />the firemen were needed to fight fires, and he wondered about the possibility of the city not pro- <br />viding ambulance service. Mr. Gallagher stated that, since 1960, the Fire Department has provided <br />ambulance service. Propr to that time, the service was provided by the Police Department. <br />Councilman Kopczynski. asked if it was possible to hire civilians to run the program. Mr. Gallagher <br />stated that the firemen have worked closely in all types of emergencies. He felt there would be a <br />great turnover of employees if civilians were hired to man the program. Councilman Parent asked fo, <br />a point of order. He felt Councilman Kopczynski's questions were not relevant to the issue before! <br />the Council. Councilman Kopczynski stated that he felt his questions were important in considering <br />the program. Councilman Serge wondered about those persons covered by ambulance insurance.' He <br />felt those persons should be able to pay for the service. Mr. Gallagher stated that he was of the <br />opinion that the citizens deserved the service. Councilman Taylor felt this service was very <br />fundamental and deserved to have the support of the Council. He felt the cost was insignificant <br />when it pertained to the saving of lives. Councilman Szymkowiak felt the service should be provide <br />to the citizens because it was a necessity and sometimes a matter of life or death. <br />Councilman Szymkowiak made a motion that the ordinance be recommended favorably to the Council, <br />seconded by Councilman Parent. The motion carried. <br />There being no further business to <br />a motion to rise and report to the <br />ATTEST: ' <br />n/ <br />CITY CLERK <br />REGULAR MEETING - RECONVENED <br />come before the Committee of the Whole, Councilman Taylor made <br />Council, seconded by Councilman Parent. The motion carried. <br />ATTE <br />CHA N <br />Be it remembered that the regular meeting of the Common Council of the City of South Bend, Indiana, <br />reconvened in the Council Chambers at 10:15 p.m., Council President Nemeth presiding and eight <br />members present and one member absent. <br />REPORT FROM THE COMMITTEE ON MINUTES <br />To the Common Council of the City of South Bend: <br />Your committee on the inspection and supervision of the minutes, would respect- <br />fully report that they have inspected the minutes of the June 24, 1974, regular meeting <br />of the Council and found them correct. <br />They, therefore, recommend that the same be approved. <br />s/ Peter J. Nemeth <br />Councilman Taylor made a motion that the report be accepted as read and placed on file and the <br />minutes be approved, seconded by Councilman Newburn. The motion carried. <br />9 <br />