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REGULAR MEETING APRIL 9 1973 <br />COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING (CONTINUED) <br />of the members available. Mrs. Green indicated that many times, there is a so- called "blue ribbon <br />committee" formed consisting of only a select few and most of these people are from the higher <br />income tax bracket and not just the ordinary citizen. She asked about the number of blacks and <br />Chicano people serving on the committee. She asked how this would reflect on the Civic Center. <br />As far as the $500,000 was concerned, she felt private funds should be used for the project. She <br />asked how many people the Civic Center would employ and she indicated that many citizens would not <br />be able to afford to attend the various activities at the Civic Center. She felt it should be <br />representative of all the people. She indicated that there were very few things in South Bend for <br />minority people to participate in. Further, that $500,000 was being appropriated for a Civic <br />Center and many of the Action Centers were being closed. She asked if any plans were being made <br />for the President's program of taking away milk from the children. She felt the Civic Center <br />would do no good for the community when there are people within the city who are so very poor. <br />She indicated that these people are not being taken -care of and that is one of the reasons for the <br />high crime rate. She mentioned that she could see disgust on the faces of the councilmen and felt <br />they were thinking to themselves how they wished she would sit down. She concluded by mentioning <br />that the beautiful Civic Center might get burned down. Mayor Miller felt that was unjust criticis <br />He indicated that the first committee for the Civic Center was chosen and consisted of 20 people <br />in the community. He mentioned that there are two members of the Council on the committee and <br />that six hard months of work has been put into the project. He repeated Mr. Rosenthal's statement <br />about anyone wishing to join the committee would be welcomed because the project is for the entire <br />community. He mentioned that there was an obligation that was made before he was elected to <br />improve the downtown area. He indicated that if this money was not spent on the project, a bond <br />issue would have to be floated to take care of the cost. He mentioned that the unemployment has <br />been decreased within the last few months and that many jobs can be provided by the construction <br />of the Civic Center. There would be money allocated for the neighborhood centers, and he felt <br />the Urban Renewal Program must be kept going. <br />Council President Nemeth indicated that last June 28, the Common Council adopted a resolution <br />approving the Civic Center project, and he quoted from that resolution: "The Civic Center <br />Committee has made recommendations which the Council believes have merit and should be explored <br />further; and the success of any such project requires total community participation and commit- <br />ment." He indicated that the Council did not want to cater only to select groups of citizens and <br />that the Council was working for the entire community and wanted all the citizens to partake of <br />the facility. He indicated that the parks and recreation segment would be utilized and there <br />would be educational programs for the students. He also indicated that he would not vote in <br />favor of the ordinance if this were not the case. Mrs. Janet Allen indicated that she had joined <br />one of the committees on the Civic Center because she had heard that anyone could do so if they <br />desired to. She said she had taken advantage of that statement and that there were at least four <br />ethnic groups on the one committee she was familiar with,: <br />Mr. Richard Gaff, 58244 Ironwood Drive, indicated that Mayor Miller had stated that the money was <br />appropriated for the rental of the museum, the Studebaker collection and the Art Center. He was <br />certain that the Mayor did not mean that these would close and he felt they would complement the <br />Civic Center. Mr. Roman Kowalski, 802 Birchwood, indicated that he supported the ordinance pro- <br />viding the city could afford the Civic Center and could also afford to maintain it. He felt there <br />should be a limit as to how far the city could go with the spending on the project. He also felt <br />that, if federal programs and grants were available, the city should match those funds appropriate(, <br />by the grants. He indicated that too many programs of this type would over - burden the taxpayers <br />and would drive the citizens to the suburban areas, creating a bigger hardship on those people <br />remaining in the city. In Philadelphia, there had been a situation where the city was unable to <br />pay the salaries of the firemen and policemen and was forced to close its museum in order to <br />meet these expenses. He hoped that this would not happen to the Civic Center project. <br />Council President Nemeth made a motion to amend the ordinance further by deleting any reference to <br />the Department of Public Works and inserting "Civic Center Authority ", seconded by Councilman <br />Miller. The motion carried. (Councilman Horvath opposed..) Mr. James Roemer, City Attorney, <br />questioned whether or not the funds would be administered according to the State Board of Accounts' <br />if the Civic Center Authority was given control rather than the Department of Public Works. It <br />was his feeling that the money should be administered by an organization that was set up to follow <br />the law and administer accounts payable, receivable, etc. He felt the members of the Civic Center <br />Authority would not have the financial expertise to take,care of administering the funds. Council <br />President Nemeth indicated that for this reason Mr. Barcome was appointed as the ex officio <br />treasurer. Mr. Roemer indicated that he did not want to violate any of the Indiana laws by giving <br />this authority to the Civic Center Authority. Mr. Barcome felt that, even though he would be <br />appointed ex officio treasurer, he would not have control over the funds according to the State <br />Board of Accounts. Council President Nemeth indicated that Mr. Barcome could advise the Authority <br />on expenditure of the funds. Mr. Barcome indicated that he could in that case; however, he did not <br />know if the State Board of Accounts would approve it. He mentioned that, under federal programs, <br />the city has had problems such as this. He felt that all the fiscal management should be put under <br />the Controller's Office. Councilman Taylor asked how this situation was handled with the'Park <br />Department and Park Board. Mr. Barcome indicated that there is an agreement whereby the fiscal <br />management is run through his department and there is a fiscal officer from the Park Department. <br />Councilman Taylor wondered why this same procedure couldn't be followed. Mr. Barcome expressed <br />hope that something would be put into the ordinance to cover that. Councilman Miller indicated <br />that an annual budget would be submitted like the other city departments. He suggested that per- <br />haps a clause could be added that budgetary control and accounting principles should be followed <br />through by the Controller's Office. Councilman Taylor indicated that the Civic Center project was <br />to be a non - political entity and he could not see any advantage of having complete governmental <br />political control. He felt that if some sort of agreement had been reached with the Park Board on <br />fiscal management, something on the same order could be established for the Civic Center Authority <br />Mr. Barcome indicated that complete control was being taken from the city administration as far as <br />fiscal management if turned over to the Authority. Councilman Parent asked Mr. Barcome if it <br />would be legal to include such a provision and Mr. Barcome indicated that it would be all right. <br />Councilman Miller asked what further control was needed other than the line item expenditures, <br />and Mr. Barcome indicated that the people to handle the job were not being provided. Councilman <br />Miller asked if Mr. Barcome was talking about the expenses, and Mr. Barcome answered that he was <br />referring only to the operation of the funds. Councilman Miller asked if the Controller and his <br />staff could work on this. Mrs. Janet Allen asked if the $500,000 was the only amount being con- <br />sidered. Council President Nemeth indicated that the Council was talking about the revenue <br />