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REGULAR MEETING MAY 12 197S <br />1ICOMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING (CONTINUED) <br />program was good and the Council merely wanted to check into the matter in detail. He wanted <br />assurance that the eight vehicles would be used solely for the project and solely by those persons <br />involved in the project. Mr. Farrand indicated that this was done last year and would be done <br />again this year. Councilman Miller also asked about the supervision of the program. Mr. Farrand <br />indicated that there would be one man 18 years or older in charge of a particular crew. One of <br />the crews would be entirely older people who would be able to use power saws, heavy equipment, etc, <br />Councilman Miller wondered about the trash pickup. Mr. Farrand indicated that bags would be <br />purchased and cleanup would be accomplished in that way. Councilman Miller asked that the southea! <br />neighborhood be cleaned and the program utilized in that area. Mr. Farrand indicated that this ha( <br />been done last year. He indicated that seven push mowers were used in concentrated areas and that <br />the trash must be cleaned up in order that the mowing be accomplished. Councilman Miller talked <br />about the amount of money being spent on gasoline. He asked that this be watched carefully. He <br />wondered if the men punched a timeclock. Mr. Farrand indicated that they did not. He stated that <br />each supervisor fills out the time sheets, and he did not feel there had been a problem with late- <br />ness and absenteeism last year. Council President Parent felt the program was administered very <br />well in 1974, and he approved of the program. He supported the city's continued involvement in the <br />program. Councilman Nemeth wondered who the supervisors were. Mr. Farrand indicated that the <br />supervisors were hired through the Manpower Office and would be in the 18 to 21 age group. <br />Councilman Nemeth wondered who supervised them. Mr. Farrand indicated that there would be two <br />supervisors for the whole program. Councilman Nemeth wondered if the two supervisors were employe( <br />by the city at present. Mr. Farrand indicated that they were not. He stated that they would be <br />hired only for the period of the program. Councilman Taylor hoped that each district would receiv( <br />a fair share of attention as far as cleanup was concerned. He hoped this would be kept in mind. <br />Councilman Kopczynski stated that the amount of gasoline would allow 19,300 miles to be put on eacl <br />vehicle for the 12 -week period. He felt this was impossible. He wondered if any city employees <br />would be in charge of the program and their time utilized for the program. Mr. Farrand stated that <br />there would not be any city employees "directly" involved In the program. Regarding the gasoline <br />amount, it was mentioned that some of the gasoline would be used for utilization of the mowers. <br />Councilman Kopczynski maintained that not that much gasoline would be used for the mowers. He <br />wondered if another large mower could be purchased or was needed. Mr. Farrand indicated that the <br />mower used last year seemed to work out quite well. Councilman Kopczynski indicated that, in one <br />instance, a city's tractor was damaged severely because of negligence. He felt the program should <br />be run like a tight ship. He mentioned the complaints received on the program. He asked Mr. Jeff <br />Rush of the Manpower Office about the total value of the program regarding salaries. He wondered <br />how the program was applied for. Mr. Rush indicated that the Department of Labor runs a small <br />program every year for 10 to 12 weeks. Councilman Kopczynski wondered if this was an administrate` <br />function as far as application for the program, and Mr. Rush indicated that it was. He stated that <br />the Council was not involved in receiving the funding of the program. He indicated that every yeas <br />the amount received was different. Councilman Kopczynski wondered how the program could be set up <br />without the exact amount of funds known. Mr. Rush indicated that the program was being worked on. <br />Mr. Farrand indicated that the city could not guarantee that the program would be funded. He stat( <br />that, if the Council waited until June for approval, it would take six weeks before the program <br />could be started. Councilman Kopczynski wondered who determined the number of persons involved. <br />Mr. Farrand indicated that he and Mr. Rush had determined this. Councilman Kopczynski wondered if <br />the persons were screened as far as eligibility, and Mr. Rush indicated that they were. Councilmai <br />Kopczynski felt the amount of gasoline should be reduced and one vehicle should also be cut. He <br />felt the amount of $1,500 would be adequate for gasoline. Mr. Farrand indicated that the program <br />would be operated under whatever the Council approved. He stated that, if the money was not spent, <br />it would revert back to the trust fund. Councilman Kopczynski wondered what had been spent last <br />year on the program, and Mr. Farrand indicated that $250 had been appropriated for equipment <br />repair and this had reverted back; $11,700 had been appropriated for vehicle leasing, and $8,854 <br />had been used; $3,050 had been appropriated for gasoline, and $2,924 had been spent; the amount <br />appropriated for office supplies had not been spent and had reverted to the fund; $550 had been <br />appropriated for other supplies, and $459 had been spent; and the amount of $1,000 appropriated <br />for other equipment had been spent in its entirety. Councilman Kopczynski felt a great deal of <br />gasoline had been used last year. He wondered if any of the vehicles had been used outside the <br />city. Mr. Farrand indicated that he was not aware of that. Councilman Kopczynski asked if a <br />Volkswagon bus had been used and the engine had burned out in Michigan. Mr. Vance indicated that <br />the particular bus had not belonged to the Department of Public Works. He thought it had belonged <br />to the Youth Services Bureau. Councilman Kopczynski indicated that this was one of the reasons wh: <br />he was so careful and asked so many questions concerning these programs. Councilman Taylor hoped <br />the Council would not reduce any of the amounts. He stated that he did not question Mr. Farrand's <br />integrity regarding the program. He talked about the problem of many citizens who did not have <br />contracts for trash removal and many problems were created. He mentioned the number of violations <br />concerning this particular issue. He felt a tax- supported garbage and trash program should be <br />accomplished "if a council had the guts to do it ". He also felt such a program was a basic and <br />essential city service. Mr. Farrand indicated that one of the weak points of the program was that <br />the city was providing free service regarding trash pickup. It was unfortunate but the problem wa! <br />there and something had to be done about it. He mentioned the difficulty in enforcing the trash <br />pickup laws. Councilman Szymkowiak indicated that he had wanted the trash program put on the tax <br />roll in an effort to take care of the problem. He talked about the lack of enforcement of the <br />city's laws and many problems in his district alone. Chairman Newburn asked that the Council memb( <br />restrict their comments and questions to the appropriation ordinance. <br />Council President Parent made a motion that the ordinance be recommended favorably to the Common <br />Council, seconded by Councilman Horvath. The motion carried. <br />There being no further business to come before the Committee of the Whole, Councilman Taylor made <br />a motion to rise and report to the Council and take a short recess, seconded by Council President <br />Parent. The motion carried, and the Council recessed at 9:30 p.m. <br />ATTEST: <br />CITY CLERK <br />1IREGULAR MEETING - RECONVENED <br />. <br />Be it remembered that the regular meeting of the Common Council of the City of South Bend, Indiana <br />reconvened in the Council Chambers at 9:50 p.m., Council President Parent presiding and nine membe s <br />present. <br />s <br />1 <br />1 <br />n <br />