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Klusczinski: Please. You're closer to the microphones up here. Please state your name <br />and address for the record. <br />Brandt: Henry Brandt, 715 W Edison, Mishawaka is the business address. <br />Klusczinski: And you're representing which company? <br />Brandt: Champion Window Company for John and Debra Gaul. <br />Klusczinski: Thank you, please continue. <br />Brandt: John asked me if I would show up because he lives in Maryland, so I said I <br />would. The windows that we're putting in are identical or aesthetically have the same <br />look as the windows that are there. I think that's... they wanted to replace the windows. <br />Klusczinski: Are there any questions for the petitioner? <br />Riley: Are you, are they having them replaced so that they may have storms and screens <br />or what's the reason for replacing them? <br />Brandt: They're just deteriorated and the cranks on the casements aren't working... <br />Riley: Ok, and you show this as an exhibit is this the type of window that you're going to <br />put in with the cross bars? <br />Hostetler: Those are showing the kind of windows that have been preferred by the <br />Commission. That's Exhibit D. Those are the ones that when we went through the C of <br />A's for the last several years, for E Wayne St those were the ones that were preferred <br />over other types of windows. Although they'd approved other types of windows, those <br />were the preferred. <br />Sassano: But that's not what we're getting here? <br />Hostetler: No. <br />Brandt: Exactly what they have now. <br />Sassano: Two panes of glass, with a mutton inside the glass. <br />Brandt: Two horizontal bars. <br />Sassano: Inside the glass? <br />Brandt: Yes, uh huh, absolutely. <br />Klusczinski: Are you replacing the windows that are there now with casement windows? <br />Brandt: Yes, sir. <br />Sassano: What about the casings and trim, does everything come out? <br />Brandt: No, the existing exterior casing is staying there. <br />Sassano: So just the sash, you're only taking the sash out and putting new sash in? <br />Brandt: Right. <br />Klusczinski: Could staff elaborate on the quality of windows that are in there right now? <br />Hostetler: We could not tell from the exterior that they were deteriorated on the interior. <br />We did not go inside the house. Cosmetically, they looked ok from the street. Wayne and <br />I both went out there several times. And like Mr. Brandt said, they're not replacing that <br />exterior framing and that's what we could see. If they're not functioning or opening from <br />the inside, that is not something that the staff could not observe. <br />Klusczinski: Thank you, sure. Any other questions? Hearing none, we move to <br />Commission discussion. Anyone with thoughts, questions, opinions? <br />Zeiger: I think that as you were getting at David, staff is recommending that the muttons <br />are dimensional which means that they're on the exterior and not that they're just flat in <br />between. <br />Hostetler: No, dimensional is inside. Champion does not make exterior muttons. It <br />would be interior, and Champion has two different styles of muttons. One is just a flat <br />piece of metal, and one has dimension to it so there's some type of shadow lines to it. <br />Zeiger: It's all inside the glass? <br />Sassano: It's all inside the glass. <br />Hostetler: That's what they offer, that's what we have to deal with. <br />Zeiger: The other question that I had real quick was the rating. Catherine, the rating is <br />non-contributing? That was from the survey? <br />Hostetler: Yes, sir. Yes it was. <br />Riley: It's from 1954. <br />M <br />
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