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®CITY OF SOUTH BEND OFFICE OF THE CLERK <br /> Committee Chair Jo M. Broden replied, Okay. It's the same. And then with regard to the Section <br /> 21.34, the positive find moneys. In that section two (2), in terms of reporting, perhaps consider <br /> adding like the number of citations. But then also, in addition to the City Clerk, I would actually <br /> encourage circling in the Council President and or the Health and Public Safety Chair and Vice <br /> Chair. That way we have a sense of advocacy on this over time. <br /> Committeemember Gavin Ferlic stated,For sure.And,just a comment that I had is monthly maybe <br /> a little bit excessive on that. Quarterly I think would be fine. I don't know how the rest of the <br /> Council feels, but I feel like a quarterly update would be good. <br /> Committee Chair Jo M. Broden replied, And then my last thing is, do we know, or is there data <br /> relative to the difference between talking or sort of the hands free element of this that we're trying <br /> to get at versus just the general distraction of the other non-hands free? <br /> Committeemember Gavin Ferlic replied, Yeah, it's a really good question. So distracted driving, <br /> there is a lot of data out there that shows distracted driving leads to an increase in crashes. Whether <br /> or not there's, I shouldn't say collecting data,but there's not consensus data on when the ordinance <br /> is passed, it restricts using your hands with a cell phone that then results in a decrease in crashes. <br /> However, there's no control group. We're not stopping technology and capping the number of cell <br /> phones at the same time. So, I would argue that even crashes remain the exact same. You still <br /> introduced say over the past five (5) years, probably two (2) to three (3) times the number of cell <br /> phones or devices that people are using. <br /> Committeemember Ferlic continued, So, it's really difficult because there's no control group to <br /> study or there's no way to stop time, have everybody use their existing technology for three (3) <br /> years and nobody gets a cell phone that didn't have a cell phone to then study. Would there be a <br /> reduction in crashes? I would argue that looking at the data, you would, again, if you didn't have <br /> hands free ordinances in those places,you would see a spike as opposed to just flat line in standard <br /> quota in crashes. <br /> Committee Chair Jo M. Broden replied, But, wouldn't insurance reports reflect some of the data in <br /> terms of the culprit? Whether or not it was hands-free or whether or not it was Bluetooth? <br /> Committemember Gavin Ferlic replied, If the people are honest. Yeah. <br /> Committee Chair Jo M. Broden asked, And then the likelihood of getting a warrant that would <br /> actually get the enforcement capacity. <br /> Committemember Gavin Ferlic replied, So again,not necessary.When you're looking at somebody <br /> texting, if they're holding the phone in their hand and they say, I was just making a call, a warrant's <br /> not necessary because by holding the phone in their hand, that is now a violation of driving. That's <br /> the difficult thing to enforce with the State law regarding texting, is because if you're texting on <br /> your phone and somebody pulls you over, you should just say, I'm sorry. <br /> Mr. Ruszkowski stated, Just two (2) perspectives. Number one (1), when I make a traffic stop, <br /> which is much to, a lot of people ask and do whatever, but I do make traffic stops, and my intent <br /> on the traffic stop is to save a life. Whether it's that driver, somebody else, or both of them, or <br /> more.That is the only intent,and I would hope to God that all officers feel the same way. However, <br /> EXCELLENCE ACCOUNTABILITY INNOVATION I INCLUSION EMPOWERMENT <br /> 455 County-City Building 227W.Jefferson Bvld South Bend.Indiana 46601 p 574.235.9221 f 574.235.9173 TTD574.235.5567 www.southbendin.gov <br /> 6 <br />