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REGULAR MEETING MARCH 26, 2012 <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />orientation, national origin, and generations. Most importantly we engaged all of our <br />team members in helping to design build and sell the worlds best vehicles. We recognize <br />that people are truly our greatest assets and they will only be successful when our <br />employees are able to really be themselves and perform at their highest capabilities inside <br />General Motors within the community. This is the same for Ford, Chrysler, Toyota, <br />Honda, and the rest of his customers. He stated that he thinks that is his opinion and the <br />opinion of the people of the 1 District. <br /> <br />Councilmember Schey advised that she thinks this is the right thing to do with this bill <br />and hopes that this will advance our community towards becoming a more tolerant and <br />accepting community. <br /> <br />Councilmember Fred Ferlic advised that obviously there has been a different <br />interpretation of the scenarios presented tonight. He did apologize to Pat and his friend <br />Rick and all the others and our wonderful nurse friend if he sounded arrogant when he <br />talked about the catechism. He stated that wasn’t the point he was selecting one <br />particular interpretation of that. He stated that he was raised on catechism. He stated that <br />as a scientist he tries to look at the facts and figures. His favorite quote one by Patrick <br />Moynahan that he made in 1966 when he said “you entitled to your own opinion but not <br />your own facts.” So he is basing it upon that. <br /> <br />Councilmember Varner stated that what he has learned from two previous evenings with <br />this is that this is not as proposed a simple moral decision that has to be made, because <br />there is enormous injustice going on out their in a selected group. He doesn’t profess to <br />understand all the legalities and he does think that some of the references made by both <br />Professor Rice and some of the others folks with regard to the legal nature ought to be <br />examined rather than moving forward. He stated that as it is he cannot believe either one <br />of those folks would stand up here raise a question without sincerely believing that those <br />questions exist and without sincerely believing that this Council perhaps should address <br />them. This rights when they are exercised by people are relative in nature, one persons <br />rights begin with another persons end. The difficult part is deciding where one’s begin <br />and another ones end. He doesn’t profess to have the answer to that and there is a better <br />answer than what is proposed here tonight and thinks we should take the time to discuss <br />it. One of things that concerns him as much as anything he knows that part of the things <br />that Dr. Ferlic mentioned is that one of the problems with having your own facts or not <br />having your own facts is that there are so many facts out there that people could interpret, <br />that need to be interpreted and thinks that they need to be considered. One of the <br />concerns he has is one of Murphy’ Laws and that the result of the unintended <br />consequences. He sincerely believes and he is an employer a small employer, that if he <br />finds himself confronted with a circumstance that it is difficult, he prefers to address it as <br />such folks like General Motors and Ford do, and they handle it internally. They don’t <br />turn it over to a quasi-judicial body that may or may not have a full understanding of <br />everyone’s rights. He respects Mr. Douglas and what he does; there are times when it’s <br />needed. He stated that he thinks there should be an exemption as explained for <br />businesses which have a Christian background as well as just the schools. He stated that <br />he thinks if you have a serious moral concern with how this plays out, then it should be <br />considered. He stated that he hoped we will take the time to consider that. Because one <br />of the unknown consequences of this could be that there are many businesses out there <br />that have a very Christian background that will not consider locating here. He doesn’t for <br />the life of him understand how putting one groups concerns before another ones makes us <br />any more progressive except for in the eyes of the political manifesto. The best reason <br />that we have heard tonight is that everybody else is doing it. He stated that he doesn’t <br />know that the reason everybody else is doing is because it is good bad or indifferent, he <br />just doesn’t know. He stated that he had hoped that they would take the time to look <br />more deeply at this. It’s been a long night for everybody, but one of the questions that <br />should be asked is that if in fact there are better answers; better language and he <br />suspected that there are gentlemen here tonight who could help us with some of that, are <br />the folks here tonight willing to consider amendments? Because if there is no one willing <br />to consider amendments then we might as well have the vote. <br /> <br /> 27 <br /> <br />
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