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Area Board of Zoning Appeals -September 2, 2009 <br />MR. KIMMEL: That's right and I forgot to mention this is a five bedroom home with five parking spots so to <br />limit it to two people would get back to what I said, it just wouldn't be able to generate revenue to allow him <br />to move to a place where he liked to raise a family. <br />MR. PHIPPS: It maybe idealistic to think that this neighborhood would return to single family. You don't <br />have to go very far east to the next street, Notre Dame Avenue, and maybe a little bit north of here to see a <br />neighborhood that is turning back to single family ownership and occupancy of a neighborhood and it would <br />be my hope that people I think are in the demand to live close to Notre Dame and the addition of Eddy Street <br />Commons and Technology Park and Innovation Park and other things that there will be more of a demand for <br />people to live in this neighborhood. Yeah but maybe it doesn't look that idealistic but I don't think it is out of <br />the question seeing that that's already happening in that neighborhood. <br />MR. KIMMEL: That's a possibility but we know for sure one thing, that the students that go to Notre Dame <br />are always going to want to live close to there and that's what the market is demanding right now. So we can <br />speculate and even is somebody wanted to come in and buy this, those types of houses are being there, the old <br />structures that you mentioned are pretty much being torn down and completely gutted and rebuilt. So that's <br />something that somebody, even if you rezone this and let Steve out of his situation, somebody in the future <br />can still come in and buy that and tear it down and build a new house and decide to live in it on their own. <br />3ust because it's zoned to allow the multi family doesn't mean it has to be used for that. <br />MR. PHIPPS: No but the problem is, I think if we zone this multi family then other people may want to make <br />their situations permanent. <br />MR. KIMMEL: Well I think for all practical purposes, they are permanent. If you look to rezoning those <br />properties and the number of years it's been that way and the amount of money they're generating by the way <br />they're doing business, not just here but throughout the town, they're never ever, ever sell that to a family <br />because they're generating $1750 per house per street. The same person owns, Steve's is just one of six <br />houses, and five of the six are owned by the same person who rents them out and he's making a fortune. And <br />Steve's off stranded in the middle. So that's really the situation. So I don't think that's ever going to happen <br />where a single family is going to come in and say all of a sudden I want to live on St. Peter Street and I'm <br />willing to pay $1750 a month to do it. <br />MR. PHIPPS: I just wish there was a way that we could put you on the same basis as everybody else is, <br />unfortunately we... <br />MR. KIMMEL: And he wants to do it right. He doesn't want to break the law and start renting it and then try <br />and come in and get it grandfathered but he had bailed out early on like everybody else did, he wouldn't be in <br />this situation but I don't think you should punish him because his family stuck there for three generations and <br />all the while apartments are springing up everywhere, condo's in the works behind him and everything else <br />gone to rental. <br />MR. FEDDER: There's always the option of no recommendation and put the burden on the actual people that <br />are going to make this difficult decision. <br />MR. URBANSKI: But it's also brought to us for a reason too. <br />40 <br />
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