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Inclusive Procurement and Contracting Board
Meeting Minutes
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Date: March 5th, 2024 | Time: 5:30 pm | Location: Microsoft Teams (Virtual) & TRC
1165 Franklin Street, Suite 100, South Bend, IN 46601
Link: https://tinyurl.com/ipcboardmeeting
❖ Call to Order- The IPC Board Committee is now called to order on March 5th,
2024, @ 5:30 p.m.
• COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT: Kara Boyles, Keana Baylis, Murray Miller,
Wilbur Boggs, Cynthia Simmons-Taylor, Jeff Rea, Michael Morris
• COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT VIRTUALLY:
• DIVERSITY & INCLUSION: Darius Lipsey, Bianca Jones
• PURCHASING:
• LEGAL: Michael Schmidt
• COMMITTEE MEMBERS ABSENT: Breanna Allen, Rachel Tomas-Morgan, Caleb
Bauer
❖ Approval of Minutes: February 6th, 2024.
Notes:
Jeff Rea – December minutes were approved with one Nay and one name correction on last
page.
I. Office of Diversity & Inclusion:
Simmons Taylor – Informed the board of the continuous efforts to increase the capacity of
and stated we are holding a workshop to assist businesses with applying for certification. She
informed the board of the presence of our consultant Ronalda Minnis and states she has been
assisting us with becoming well versed with the ordinance, program plan, and supplier
diversity. She will also be assisting Bianca with the certification workshop. She continues to
on to say the ODI office will continue to be as transparent as possible and open to
constructive criticism. The ODI office is reaching out to companies and informing them of
upcoming projects as well.
Morris – States that he is happy we are doing the certification workshop. He went on to say
that he really wants to encourage ODI to use part of their marketing to include the ecosystem
in South Bend. He acknowledged that while we are familiar with his program, he had lunch
with Paula (Sours) who is over the Spark Program who is also hosting a workshop, and she
informed him that she knew nothing about the certification session. There is also a Cynthia
that is hosting one as well. Others in the ecosystem are the SBDC, IDEA Center, Spark, and
SBERP; who all have small business development programs should be included in the
marketing of ODI programs so word can get out.
Simmons-Taylor – Stated the reason we started with the certification workshop was because
with some organizations ODI was not seeing certifications happening. She continues to state
that the only way she knows people are getting certified is to do the certification. She agreed
with Morris, stating that we need to do a better job of letting our community partners know
because they have a wider reach. She stated that in 3 weeks we had 70 people sign up – Jones
interjected that it was 2 days that we had individuals sign up. – Simmons-Taylor continued
that it is something being spread Morris’ suggestion is a great one because ODI can use the
reach.
Morris- Stated we need to raise the visibility of the ODI office because nobody knows what
South Bend is doing. People talk down on the CoSB when the city is doing some cool stuff. –
Simmons -Taylor - Informed Morris that we just got access to our Facebook page. – Morris –
Stated he just needed a this is a great idea and we’re going to do it. He expressed his
frustration and suggested that being asked for the mailing list of who we need to contact
would have been a better response.
Simmons-Taylor - Asked Morris and Rea for their mailing list of community partners. She
goes on to inform the board we will be moving to the department building across from the
CCB.
Baylis – Ask does MWBEs stand for Minority Women or Minority and Women.
Simmons-Taylor /Jones /Morris - It stands for Minority and Women
Baylis – Stated that the wording on the flyer was confusing to individuals and the MWBE
needs to be distinguished as Minority and Women because individuals only thought it was
for Minority Women. She stated that if ODI is not going to listen to the board members say
she has a problem with it. She goes on to state she was asking for clarification, and it is not to
tear the ODI team down. We don’t want people to think we are being biased because of the
MWBE. She thinks that the post needs to be clarified to include men. She continues; The
problem with the ODI Office and community in South Bend is the trust has been broken. She
questions why did ODI start with certification? She followed up by stating everything
individuals needed to get certified. She stated that not all the businesses who are trying to get
certified will be doing business with the city. Then continues to say that certification helped
her business get 50k in grant funding outside of the CoSB. She suggested maybe we need to
consider to be more niche about who where are working to get certified. She then asked
when they finished then what? (Those who can’t do business with the city)
Simmons-Taylor – Stated the point is to connect them to opportunity. It’s having enough
confidence in the ODI staff and knowing that they will follow through. That’s why the
workshop is for 4 weeks.
Baylis - Interjects and stated that the businesses are spending 4 weeks to fill out paperwork
and ODI is still not helping them.
Simmons-Taylor – States that ODI is helping because they are slowing down the process and
explaining the process to them thoroughly. She goes on to support Baylis’ statement
regarding the extensiveness of the application process which is why we are slowing it down
and walking them through it step by step. There are weekly expectations that would be met
so the documents needed will be in their possession by week 3.
Baylis - States individuals are not getting certified. So, invite people to go throught the b-
suite so they can get assistance first because they (individuals) think they are getting certified
and they are not and goes on to question if we see the miscommunication is this.
Simmons-Taylor – States that she hears what Baylis is saying then went on to say that Bianca
has spoken to every one of them and there are men and women so not everyone is confused.
Some of them do know what MWBE means. Women and Minority. So we should spell it out.
I will turn it over to Bianca to explain.
Baylis – Stated Certification is not her issue, she believes ODI should have started from a
different standpoint.
Jones – Inquired on what standpoint should ODI start?
Baylis – Stated ODI should have gone back to the b-suite and reintroduced it and the services
they offer. There were some pitfalls, and it left a bad taste in people’s mouths.
Simmons-Taylor – Stated that ODI audited the b-suite and reached out to individuals to had
applied and wanted certification.
Jones – Stated that all of Baylis’ questions regarding participants being at a standstill are
valid questions. She goes on to say that the intake form vetted individuals by asking about
their company financials and those who stated they had those documents were admitted into
the cohort. She continued and stated that when the individuals were reaching out to Baylis
with confusion on if the workshop was for both men and women she should have reached out
and made the team aware of the confusion so it could have been corrected. She stated that we
are a team and that information like that is valuable. With the concerns raised the board knew
about the workshop before the action plan had started to give some of that feedback and they
did not.
Simmons-Tylor – Stated the Mayor has asked her to get people certified and that’s what we
are going to do.
There was an exchange between Baylis and Simmons-Taylor
Boggs – Called point of order, citing Roberts Rules
Schmidt - Stated with Wilbur’s approval, It is recognized that Keana and Cynthia has a
difference of opinion in the approach the ODI is taking; and Cynthia has some disagreements
with Keana. We are going to leave it at that. ODI’s program will go on tomorrow and we will
move on to the next agenda item.
Boggs – States that he thinks the ODI team is great. He continues to say people like a carrot
and if there is not a carrot out there, they don’t come. Some businesses are not from business
backgrounds and don’t have those financials together, so if that happens, we should send
them to programs like Michael’s to help people. People come with their own illusions, and
we can work to get them on right track. They go through the process for 4 weeks they may
think that they are walking out with certification and think something magical happens.
Jones – Stated she agreed with Boogs and Morris on building that ecosystem and stated that
ODI has been in conversation with SBERP and WorkOne to develop relationships and
identify where to send people. We have 55 businesses who have done business with the city,
and we are trying to pull them in.
Morris – Stated what ODI is doing is great and wish they could do this every month. He
continued to state that he was very uncomfortable with the exchange. He followed up with he
thinks this being encouraged as a holistic approach and to do more things like this.
Jones – Stated that the ODI team is looking for partners to make connections and direct
individuals to the right places. The goal is to build camaraderie and be in the fold with other
organizations in small business development. The business that ODI has for the workshop
varied. There are currently 55 minority or women owned businesses doing business with the
city that ODI is targeting to get certified. Of those 55 only 9 applied for the workshop. ODI
will do their best to engage with the other businesses to obtain certification.
Miller – Stated he tried to reach out to Jones to ask about the program (MWBE) and Jones’
tone seemed offended by his questioning and of using other individuals.
Jones – Stated that Miller pulled her to the side at a NIMBA meeting while she was on her
way out and questioned what made her qualified to do the workshop. She continued to say
that his insinuation of her tone did not make it a fact and she was not offended by his
questions, she was offended by him questioning her competency.
Rea – Stated that some of the frustration is looking at the board’s duties and seeing that the
board is not doing any of those items. They are trying to figure out that role they play. He
brought attention to item 1 on the board duties which speaks to setting annual utilization
goals with the program administrator. It is now March and we have not set any goals. He
went on to ask if there was an annual report coming and if there was a new goal set.
Simmons-Taylor – Stated as of right now the current reports show where we with our
spending last year in comparison to this year. She continued to speak to the program plan and
changes that need to be made. She gave an example of items not addressed in the program
plan, like change orders and language that could be clearer. We have a 6% goal set on the
plans, but it is not annual, it was based on the disparity study.
Schmidt – Stated if we have an annual utilization plan and we keep exceeding that
aspirational, what happens next? How does that long term impact effect the disparity study?
He continued with the 8 job duties the board has and how we should be having a robust
discussion about those items each month. Then the board can take forma action to the Mayor
and Common Council on the future needs and assessment of the program. Some of those
duties he would like to see more on the agenda that are actionable. He further explained for a
period he would put together spreadsheets that would show utilization percentages for
certified and non-certified. He went on to say that if the board focuses on one topic of the 8
duties for the next meeting and so on, we can make progress. We owe that to the volunteer
board to take on those duties and expand upon them.
Morris – Stated that it sounds like some of the frustration is coming from the agenda and
proceeded to ask who sets the agenda.
Jones – Stated she puts the agenda together and sends it to the President of the board for
input.
Schmidt – Stated we try to get some input from the board on how to set the agenda. There
should be better dialog between the board and the Program Administrator on how to set the
agenda.
Morris - Stated if we went around the room and asked each person what the 2024 goal is, he
has a feeling we would get different answers or no answers.
Schmidt - Stated that we have never set an aspirational goal. There was some cursory talk
over it but again if we keep achieving and exceeding the aspirational goals then what does
that mean for the long-term health of the program? Through the conflict today we know what
growth might be so let’s reconsider the agenda and identify which one of these meeting items
we are going to tackle.
Simmons-Taylor – Proposed we start at board item 1
Rea – Stated to his point earlier, no one knows what the goal for last year was because one
was never set.
Schmidt – Stated if you look at the total’s city spend with M & W certified and non-certified
the city 8%.
Boggs – Stated the ordinance says certified.
Schmidt - Stated the certified spend is around .02%.
Ronalda Minnis (MWBE) - Stated that Keanna made a good point that the city cannot work
with all businesses and having partners with opportunities would help. The city has 55
businesses that are not certified who is their main focus. She went on to say that she has been
assisting ODI and event after review of the disparity study and ordinance, there is a lot of
confusion. Her and Cynthia will have a conversation with Claudette who conducted the
disparity study to help gain clarity.
Simmons-Taylor - Stated that the program plan and ordinance speaks to all departments and
not just public works. VPA would be the next department to do spend and they are at 4%.
Rea - Stated the focus was on Public Works because they have the largest spend.
Morris – Stated that we need to focus on the agenda because it ties to the mission of the
board and thinks that would be a huge step forward.
Boggs – Stated this board duties sets the groundwork can concurs with Morris.
Schmidt – States he can provide whatever support to Cynthia to help with the board
recommendations. Referred to Darius to regarding speaking to the director of procurement.
Lipsey - Stated that he and the procurement team would add percentages to make things
clearer.
Rea - Stated that one of his concerns is that the percentage of spend outside of the region (St
Joseph, LaPorte, Elkhart, ect.)
Baylis – Questioned if professional services are not supposed to be counted.
Schmidt – The goals are for the total spending of the city and professional services are
included. They are not required to be subcontracted.
Morris departed at 1hour and 11 mins.
Rea – Asked when will the board receive the annual report and the time frame on that.
Lipsey – Stated the January meeting had the data from 2023 but if there were a specific
format the board would like to see it in.
Rea - Stated the date that was given was January or 22 vs 23 but not all 12 months.
Lipsey – State Mickey financial report was from Jan-Dec and the DPW report he puts
together was from Jan 1st – Dec 31st
Rae – Was trying to identify how they would identify the goals.
Lipsey – Stated that the procurement report does not define sub payments and DPW report
shows sub payments. He continued that he would work with Mickey to put together a
succinct report containing all of the data in one.
II. Public Works/ Procurement:
o Darius Lipsey presented the DPW report.
Miller – Questioned can there be minority and women engagement on the $8000
quote.
Schmidt – Responded the city has to solicit 3 quotes on those smaller projects and
it does not have goals. We hope that everybody is taking a step in that direction.
Rea – Questioned if the city can do a QPA.
Schmidt – Stated no, it’s a specific method and there would be no goals applied to
supply purchases.
III. Purchasing:
IV. Old Business
o
V. New Business
o Voted on new meeting date.
Rea - Motion to vote on moving the IPC Board Meeting Tuesdays on the 3rd
week.
Boyles – Second
Schmidt – Motion carries.
VI. Announcements
o
VII. Floor Open to the Public
o None
VIII. Adjournment- Vote
Notes & Action Items