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Inclusive Procurement and Contracting Board
Meeting Minutes
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Date: June 18th, 2024 | Time: 5:30 pm | Location: Microsoft Teams (Virtual) & TRC
1165 Franklin Street, Suite 100, South Bend, IN 46601
Link: https://tinyurl.com/ipcboardmeeting
Call to Order- The IPC Board is now called to order on May 21st, 2024, @ 5:30
p.m.
• BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT: Keana Baylis, Rachel Tomas-Morgan, Wilbur Boggs,
Cynthia Simmons-Taylor, Breanna Allen
• BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT VIRTUALLY:
Murray Miller
• DIVERSITY & INCLUSION: Darius Lipsey, Bianca Jones
• PURCHASING:
• LEGAL: Michael Schmidt
• COMMITTEE MEMBERS ABSENT:, Caleb Bauer, Michael Morris, Kara Boyles,
Kimberly Hurt, Jeff Rea
Approval of Minutes:
April 2nd,2024 – (This was not in the recording) will need to be confirmed.
Notes:
I. Office of Diversity and Inclusion:
Simmons-Taylor – Discusses outreach and opportunities to engage more MWBEs and
directs board to look at the purchasing report. She stated the certified spend is less than
the non-certified spend. They are working to engage those businesses and push them to
become certified.
Baylis- Requests that Simmons-Taylor advances on to number 8 on the agenda.
Simmons-Taylor – Stated that we have a potential fraud case. I appears a prime
potentially provided false or misleading information to the City in its efforts to win a bid
for a public works project. They listed a sub that was in Evansville to achieve the M goal.
The subs claim they were never contacted by the prime and had not provided a quote to
serve as a subcontractor. The subcontractor went on to say, for the amount that was
awarded they would never have sent someone from Evansville because of the distance in
relation to the amount awarded.
She continued with the Program Plan Paragraph A Section B3 subsection G states that if
there is suspicion of non-compliance from a prime contractor the Program Administrator
will notify the IPC Board. We have attempted to notify the prime contractor of the
suspicion and invited them to attend the IPC board meeting to speak about this matter.
We will come up with a full investigation and the next meeting (June) come up with a
finding.
Schmidt- Added the requirement was that we notify the board of the potential situation
that first meeting after we find out. May is the first meeting that occurred since learning
of this potential situation. We anticipate the supplier/vendor who was cited will give us a
better understanding of what did or did not happen. We hope to bring forth an affidavit to
the board so they can weigh in. We need to find some basis but this is not a law. The
Program Administrator will make a recommendation based upon the evidence that she
presents to you. I could ban the contractor from doing business with the city for a period
or it could just be a reprimand. I could look like a lot of different things.
Baylis – Thanked them for bringing this matter to the board’s attention and they will wait
to here of the findings in June.
Simmons-Taylor- Followed up with letting the board know that we found out because the
prime was calling wanting their last payment and it is our protocol to contact the subs to
make sure they have been paid and that led to us learning of the discrepancy.
Baylis – Moves to the board summer schedule.
Jones – Based on the poll we had 4 for no meeting in July and August, 1 for hold summer
meeting in July, 1 for hold summer meeting in August, and 4 for hold summer meetings
all summer.
Baylis- With the information provided stated to continue with holding meetings in the
summer with the caveat that if members are unable to be present to notify the board of
their absence as soon as possible so we will know if we have a quorum.
Jones – Requested board members respond if they will be in attendance once they receive
the meeting notice and she will take count of the responses to ensure the board has a
quorum.
Baylis – Asks the board members to please me courteous and let us know if they are not
going to be in attendance.
Simmons-Taylor- Stated that we are going into the budget season, and she wants some
members of the board to be involved in review of the budget.
Baylis- Stated that she could have Bianca send out some dates and a notice and let
members choose.
Thomas-Morgan – Asked if we would be naming the parties next meeting.
Schmidt – Stated we have a duty to notify the parties and we also invited them to today's
meeting but received a service return.
Simmons-Taylor- We kept them anonymous because we wanted to do the investigation
first.
Allen – How much was the project award? Have we done business with this vendor
before?
Simmons-Taylor- Yes, we have done business with them before, and the project was the
Ward Bakery…
Schmidt and Lipsey believed the amount were around 150,000
Baylis – Asked will we go back and look at other projects completed by them to see if
this has happened with this vendor before?
Lipsey- This was their first project as a prime contractor, the other projects there on as a
subcontractor. He then confirmed their portion of the project was 121,000.
Baylis – Clarifies that is it being asked of the board to chime in and decide if we should
never do business with them again or what.
Simmons-Taylor – Responds stating that she would like the board’s recommendation and
she will give them her recommendation and if they are found non-compliant there maybe
a period where we do not do business with them.
Baylis agrees with Simmons-Taylor
Thomas-Morgan – Stated that she is a little uncomfortable with having the conversation
about potential repercussions because this is still under investigation, and it seems like
the conversation is premeditated.
Baylis – Adds that “if” was used because we do not know, and she hopes they are not
found guilty.
Allen – Asked if there is a process on mitigating this in the future to ensure honesty and
integrity.
Simmon-Taylor- Stated that she does not think I would be burdensome to contact subs to
ensure they are engaged.
Lipsey- Stated he is verifying with subs when projects are awarded. He is also following
up and getting more information on who the primes are contracting. He also noted that
this project happened before he came to his position and has not happened since.
Allen – Added that to his point there can be a change in leadership so is this process
written down or is this something we add to the program plan?
Thomas-Morgan – Answered that part of the reason for having the program plan is for
staff to make changes as the see something new. We can continue to develop.
Simmons-Taylor- We have been in consultation with Michael and have identified some
things in the Program Plan that we want to tighten up. We will provide a list to the board
of those items we think can be interpreted in multiple ways and try to make them clearer
and concise. We are also looking at adding NAICS codes. We currently have 27 that is in
our program plan and Darius is finding that there are some codes we can use based on
availability that is not currently available in the program plan. We would like to come
with a comprehensive list of items to change and we can review them together.
Thomas-Morgan- Stated that she thinks that is a healthier way to move forward and
understand that the work is continuous.
Miller- The information in the investigation, can we get that the Friday before and not the
day of.
Simmons-Taylor- Stated as soon as we know something we can get that in touch with the
president to let her know.
Schmidt- We will look at the open-door law and how we can disseminate that
information.
Miller- How do we make a decision on something we get a few hours before the meeting.
Schmidt- You don’t have to make a decision on that day. You can take that information
back, you can call another meeting, you can make a decision to make an announcement at
the next meeting. It doesn’t have to be simultaneously with receiving that information.
Miller reiterated the question and Shmidt offered the same rebuttal
II. Procurement: Report was given not discussed
III. Public Works: Report was given not discussed
IV. Old Business
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V. New Business
o VI. Announcements
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VII. Floor Open to the Public -
Alejando Saucedo – CEO and owner of Indiana’s Elite Cleaning and city vendor.
MBE certified business – he stated he was attending to be more in the know and
looking for opportunities.
Baylis- Are looking for ways we can work with you or were you looking for
information?
Saucedo- Just information, he continues to say that he is very interesting in supplier
diversity and the gap in our community. We have a long way to go and he wanted
to be present.
Baylis- We appreciate that and as a board we heard you, she asked if Cynthia and
her team can share information.
Simmons-Taylor and Saucedo stated they know each other in various ways and very
familiar with his business. ODI consultant Ronalda Minnis assisted Saucedo in
certification and connected him to other businesses and opportunities and has since
been able to take on larger projects.
Cynthia invited David Finley from Innovation and Technology to speak on the
Annual Report-
VIII. Adjournment-
Baylis motion to adjourn the meeting
Notes & Action Items