HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-26-02 Council Meeting MinutesREGULAR MEETING AUGUST 26. 2002
Be it remembered that the Common Council of the City of South Bend, Indiana, met in the Council
Chambers of the County -City Building on Monday, August 26, 2002, at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was
called to order by Council President Roland Kelly and the Invocation and Pledge to the Flag were
given.
ROLL CALL
Present: Charlotte Pfeifer
2' District
Roland Kelly
3rd District
Karl King
4t' District
David Varner
5th District
Sean Coleman
At -Large
Al `Buddy" Kirsits
At -Large
Karen L. White
At -Large
Absent: James Aranowski 1St District
Andrew Ujdak 6th District
President
Chairperson, Committee of the Whole
Vice - President
REPORT FROM THE SUB- COMMITTEE ON MINUTES
To the Common Council of the City of South Bend: The sub - committee has inspected the minutes
of the August 12, 2002 meeting of the Council and found them to be correct.
Therefore, we recommend the same be approved.
s/Roland Kelly
s/David Varner
Councilmember Coleman made a motion that the minutes of the August -12, 2002 meeting of the
Council be accepted and placed on file. Councilmember White seconded the motion which carried
by a voice vote of seven (7) ayes.
SPECIAL BUSINESS
RESOLUTION NO. 3113 -02 A RESOLUTION OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA ADOPTING A
WRITTEN FISCAL PLAN AND ESTABLISHING A
POLICY FOR THE PROVISION OF SERVICES TO AN
ANNEXATION AREA IN GERMAN TOWNSHIP (THE
VILLAS AT LAKE BLACKTHORN ANNEXATION AREA
A/K/A VACANT LAND ADJACENT TO THE NORTH
AND EAST SIDE OF 24545 BRICK ROAD, ALONG THE
WEST SIDE OF THE 31 BYPASS RAMP FROMITO THE
CLEVELAND/BRICK ROAD EXIT)
WHEREAS, there has been submitted to the Common Council of the City of South Bend,
Indiana, an Ordinance and a petition by the sole (100 %) property owner which proposes the
annexation of real estate located in German Township, St. Joseph County, Indiana, which is
described more particularly in Section I of this Resolution, and;
WHEREAS, the territory proposed to be annexed encompasses approximately 38.08 acres
of vacant land which is at least 12.5% contiguous to the current City limits, i.e., approximately
41.6% contiguous to the current City limits, which property is located north of Brick Road and east
of Orange Road in St. Joseph County, Indiana. This annexation area is intended to be used as a
residential subdivision development. Accordingly, the annexation territory will require a basic level
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of municipal public services, of a non - capital improvement nature, including police and fire
protection, street and road maintenance, street sweeping, flushing, snow removal, and sewage
collection, as well as services of a capital improvement nature, including street and road
construction, street lighting, a storm water system, a sanitary sewer system, and a water distribution
system; and
WHEREAS, the Common Council of the City of South Bend, Indiana, now desires to
establish and adopt a fiscal plan and establish a definite policy showing: (1) the cost estimates of
services of a non - capital nature, including street and road maintenance, police and fire protection,
and other non - capital services normally provided within the corporate boundaries, and services of
a capital improvement nature, including street and road construction, street lighting, a sanitary sewer
extension, a water distribution system, and a storm water system to be furnished to the territory to
be annexed; (2) the method (s) of financing those services; (3) the plan for the organization and
extension of those services; (4) that services of a non - capital nature will be provided to the annexed
area within one (1) year after the effective date of the annexation, and that they will be provided in
a manner in standard and scope to similar non - capital services provided to areas within the corporate
boundaries of the City of South Bend, regardless of similar topography, patterns of land use, or
population density; (5) that the services of a capital improvement nature will be provided to the
annexed area within four (4) years after the effective date of the annexation in the same manner as
the services are provided to areas within the corporate boundaries of the City of South Bend,
regardless of similar topography, patterns of land use, or population density, and in a manner
consistent with federal, state and local laws; and (6) the plan for hiring the employees of other
governmental entities whose jobs will be eliminated by the proposed annexation; and
WHEREAS, the Board of Public Works of the City of South Bend, and the Board of Public
Safety of the City of South Bend, have each approved a written fiscal plan and established a policy
for the provision of services to the territory proposed to be annexed, which plan and policy the
Common Council finds to be appropriate and in the best interest of the City, and, which it desires
to adopt; and
WHEREAS, this Annexation Area was initially and preliminarily named the Westwood
Annexation Area which is how it was identified in Resolutions by the Board of Works and Board
of Safety, but has been renamed The Villas at Lake Blackthorn, so that all references to the
Westwood Annexation Area shall be deemed to relate to The Villas at Lake Blackthorn Annexation
Area. Moreover, when the Petition for Annexation was filed with this Council the annexation area
was identified as "vacant land adjacent to the north and east side of 24545 Brick Road, along the
west side of the 31 bypass ramp from/to the Cleveland/Brick Road exit." The foregoing description
shall be deemed to be the equivalent of the Villas at Lake Blackthorn.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA, AS FOLLOWS:
Section I. It is in the best interest of the City of South Bend and the area proposed to be
annexed that the real property located in German Township, St. Joseph County, Indiana, described
more particularly as follows, be annexed to the City of South Bend:
A part of the Northwest, Southwest, and Southeast Quarters of Section 18, Township
38 North, Range 2 East, German Township, St. Joseph County, Indiana being more
particularly described as follows:
Commencing at the Northeast corner of the Southeast Quarter of Section 18,
Township 38 North, Range 2 East, 5.8 feet south of a 2" iron monument with a cap
labeled "SEC. CORNER "; thence South 89 degrees 49 minutes 49 seconds West, a
distance of 2278.97 feet to the east line of the west 160 acres of the south half of said
Section 18; thence along said east line, South 0 degrees 45 minutes 39 seconds West,
a distance of 80.00 feet to the POINT OF BEGINNING; thence continuing along said
east line South 0 degrees 45 minutes 39 seconds West to the northeast corner of land
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described in Instrument Number 101065, as recorded in the office of said Recorder;
thence South 35 degrees 15 minutes 20 seconds West, a distance of 401.95 feet;
thence South 2 degrees 36 minutes 09 seconds West, a distance of 256.87 feet; thence
South 85 degrees 31 minutes 45 seconds West, a distance of 199.30 feet to the
southeast corner of land described in Instrument Number 8717366, as recorded in the
office of said Recorder; thence along the east line of said land, North 0 degrees 15
minutes 44 seconds East, a distance of 181.22 feet; thence along the north line of said
land, North 89 degrees 48 minutes 51 seconds West, a distance of 323.58 feet; thence
North 0 degrees 03 minutes 20 seconds West, a distance of 5 00. 00 feet; thence North
89 degrees 57 minutes 04 seconds West, a distance of 2.00 feet; thence North 0
degrees 03 minutes 20 seconds West, a distance of 100.00 feet; thence South 89
degrees 57 minutes 04 seconds East, a distance of 2.00 feet; thence North 0 degrees
03 minutes 20 seconds West, a distance of 500.00 feet; thence North 89 degrees 57
minutes 04 seconds West, a distance of 2.00 feet; thence North 0 degrees 03 minutes
20 seconds West, a distance of 100.00 feet; thence South 89 degrees 57 minutes 04
seconds East, a distance of 2.00 feet; thence North 0 degrees 03 minutes 20 seconds
West, a distance of 800.00 feet to the southwest corner of Lot "A" as depicted in the
replat of Righter's Orange Road Minor Subdivision, described in Instrument Number
8525803, as recorded in the office of said Recorder; thence along the south line of
said Lot "A ", North 89 degrees 50 minutes 13 seconds East, a distance of 100.00 feet;
thence along the east line of said Lot "A ", North 0 degrees 03 minutes 20 seconds
West, a distance of 292.71 feet to the point of curvature of a non - tangent curve, being
the northerly right -of -way of Orange Road, concave to the North, having a radius of
295.00 feet, a central angle of 22 degrees 31 minutes 44 seconds, and a chord of
115.25 feet bearing North 64 degrees 12 minutes 33 seconds East; thence East along
said northerly right -of -way curve, a distance of 115.99 feet; thence South 0 degrees
11 minutes 04 seconds East, a distance of 119.25 feet to the southwest corner of Lot
1 of Bogue's Major Subdivision, described in Instrument Number 8932797, as
recorded in the office of said Recorder and the northwest corner of land described in
Instrument Number 9331954, as recorded in the office of said Recorder; thence along
the boundary of said land the next two (2) courses; (1) South 26 degrees 45 minutes
04 seconds East, a distance of 66.96 feet; (2) thence North 89 degrees 49 minutes 49
seconds East, a distance of 556.25 feet to east line of the west 160 acres of the south
half of said Section 18 and the POINT OF BEGINNING.
Section II. It shall be and hereby is now declared and established that it is the policy of the
City of South Bend, to furnish services to said territory of a non - capital nature, such as police and
fire protection, street and road maintenance, street sweeping, flushing, and snow removal, within one
(1) year of the effective date of the annexation, in a manner equivalent in standard and scope to the
services furnished by the City to other areas of the City regardless of similar topography, patterns
of land use, or population density; and to furnish to said territory services of a capital improvement
nature, including street and road construction, street lighting, a sanitary sewer extension, a water
distribution system, and a storm water system, within four (4) years of the effective date of the
annexation in the same manner as those services are provided to areas within the corporate
boundaries of the City of South Bend regardless of similar topography, patterns of land use, or
population density, and in a manner consistent with federal, state and local laws, procedures, and
planning criteria.
Section III. The Common Council for the City of South Bend shall and does hereby now
establish and adopt the Fiscal Plan described in Exhibit "A ", attached hereto and made apart hereof,
for the furnishing of said services to the territory to be annexed, which Fiscal Plan provides among
other things, that the City of South Bend will extend at its expense a sewer main line along the north
boundary of the proposed development to Orange Road, to be paid from the Tax Incremental
Finance Account (TIF) and not from the City's sewer fund, and that all or most other capital
improvements required to service the annexation area will be planned, provided, and paid for by the
developer subject to compliance with state and local law.
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Section IV. This Resolution shall be in full force and effect from and after its date of
adoption by the Common Council and approval by the Mayor.
s /Roland Kelly
Member, South Bend Common Council
Councilmember White reported that the Zoning & Annexation Committee conducted a committee
meeting and Public Hearing on this bill and sends it to the full Council with a favorable
recommendation.
Mr. Larry Magliozzi, Assistant Director, Planning & Neighborhood Development, Community &
Economic Development, 121 Floor, County -City Building, South Bend, Indiana, made the
presentation for this Resolution.
Mr. Magliozzi advised that this Fiscal Plan is in regards to the voluntary annexation of thirty -eight
(38) acres of land west of the bypass and north of Brick Road for a single family villa type
residential development known as The Villas at Lake Blackthorn. Fire Station #11 will provide full
fire coverage and Police Beat #22 will be expanded to incorporate this area into their police beat.
The City will be assisting with the extension of a sewer line which will not only service this
particular development but will also service additional acreage to the north and south of this
development. Mr. Magliozzi noted that the developer is responsible for the balance of all public
utilities within the development including streets, sidewalks, curbs and street lights. He noted that
none of the City departments that were contacted indicated that there will be any additional monies
needed for extra manpower or equipment. In conclusion, Mr. Magliozzi advised that this
annexation meets all the requirements of state law for annexation of contiguous property.
A Public Hearing was held on the Resolution at this time.
There being no one present wishing to speak to the Council either in favor of or in opposition to this
Resolution, Councilmember Coleman made a motion to adopt this Resolution. Councilmember
King seconded the motion which carried and the Resolution was adopted by a roll call vote of seven
(7) ayes.
RESOLVE INTO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
At 7:06 p.m. Councilmember Coleman made a motion to resolve into the Committee of the Whole.
Councilmember Varner seconded the motion which carried by a voice vote of seven (7) ayes.
Chairman King presiding.
BILL NO. 57 -02 PUBLIC HEARING ON A BILL OF THE COMMON
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA,
ANNEXING TO AND BRINGING WITHIN THE CITY
LIMITS OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA, CERTAIN LAND
IN GERMAN TOWNSHIP CONTIGUOUS THEREWITH;
VACANT LAND ADJACENT TO THE NORTH AND
EAST SIDE OF 24545 BRICK ROAD, ALONG THE WEST
SIDE OF THE 31 BYPASS RAMP FROM /TO THE
CLEVELAND/BRICK ROAD EXIT
Councilmember Coleman made a motion to accept the second substitute version of this bill.
Councilmember Varner seconded the motion which carried by a voice vote of seven (7) ayes.
Councilmember White reported that the Zoning & Annexation Committee conducted a committee
meeting and held a Public Hearing on this bill and sends it to the Council with a favorable
recommendation.
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Mr. Steve Cooreman, Cooreman Real Estate Group, Inc., 24545 Brick Road, South Bend, Indiana,
made the presentation for this bill.
Mr. Cooreman informed the Council that Cooreman Real Estate Group is the developer of The
_ Villas at Lake Blackthorn located at Brick Road and the 31 Bypass and is seeking voluntary
annexation and extension of City water and sewer. He noted that in addition to the thirty -eight (38)
acres being requested for annexation they are in the process of purchasing the contiguous nineteen
(19) acres currently owned by the Redevelopment Commission. By putting these two (2) parcels
together the Villas will then comprise more than one hundred six (106) high end villas ranging in
price from one hundred seventy thousand ($170,000.00) dollars up to three hundred thousand dollars
($300,000.00). This project when fully built will generate more than one -half million dollars of real
estate taxes. Some of the features of the development include a nine (9) acre stocked lake in the
middle of the project, a large common area, a large gazebo, a deck overlooking the lake which will
have a fountain in the middle. Mr. Cooreman stated that it is their belief that this is going to be one
of the nicest villa communities built in the City of South Bend. He noted that they will also be
seeking residential tax abatement to offer all the homeowners.
This being the time heretofore set for the Public Hearing on the above bill, proponents and
opponents were given an opportunity to be heard.
There was no one present wishing to speak to the Council either in favor of or in opposition to this
bill.
Councilmember Coleman thanked Mr. Cooreman for his commitment to develop this property
within the City limits and also thanked the staff of the Economic Development Department who
have worked with Mr. Cooreman in this process.
Therefore, Councilmember Coleman made a motion that second substitute Bill No. 57 -02 go to
the full Council with a favorable recommendation with Third Reading to be held on September 9,
2002. Councilmember Varner seconded the motion which carried by a voice vote of seven (7) ayes.
BILL NO. 40 -02 PUBLIC HEARING ON A BILL TO VACATE THE
FOLLOWING DESCRIBED PROPERTY: THE FIRST
EAST /WEST ALLEY SOUTH OF MISHAWAKA
AVENUE FROM 21ST STREET WEST TO THE FIRST
NORTH /SOUTH ALLEY; AND THE FIRST
NORTH/SOUTH ALLEY WEST OF 21ST STREET FROM
THE FIRST EAST /WEST ALLEY SOUTH OF
MISHAWAKA AVENUE
Councilmember White made a motion to hear the substitute version of this bill. Councilmember
Varner seconded the motion which carried by a voice vote of seven (7) ayes.
Councilmember Varner reported that the Public Works and Property Vacation Committee conducted
a Committee Hearing on this bill, as substituted, and sends it to the Council with a favorable
recommendation.
Mr. James A. Masters, Nemeth, Feeney & Masters, Suite 600, 215 South St. Joseph Street, South
Bend, Indiana, representing the Petitioner, the St. Joseph County Public Library, made the
presentation for this bill.
Mr. Masters informed the Council that in late 2000 the St. Joseph County Public Library acquired
property located south and west of the library. The west lot will be used for future expansion of the
building and the south lot ( #45) will be used for parking. He noted that the library is asking to have
the alley that runs just north of that lot vacated as well as the north/south alley that is immediately
adjacent to the lot on the west for the width of the lot. The reason for this request is because of their
concern for library patrons who walk through the parking lot to get to their cars and they do not
want through traffic going down the alley.
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Mr. Masters noted that the situation is compounded by the fact that in 1987 Dr. Proudfit, who has
his eye doctor's office to the west of the library, had his portion of the alley vacated but the alley
was never closed off. The pavement and the access from 20th Street is still there. The situation is
made even more difficult because the parking garage for IUSB is located immediately to the west
of Dr. Proudfit's office with the entrance ramp to that parking garage almost directly across from
this alley and while traffic is backed up at the stop light at 20th Street, people cut through the alley.
Mr. Masters informed the Council that this project was delayed several times in order to resolve
some issues with Dr. Proudfit. His attorney, Mr. Ken Cotter, is present this evening to speak to
some of these issues and to confirm how they intend to handle the situation. Dr. Proudfit will close
off the alley behind his property and will pave his parking lot which is already bounded by a fence
so when you enter his parking lot there is no access to the alley behind the library. The library
intends to close off the alley, if vacated, and expand their parking lot. It will be closed off so that
people coming north in the north/south alley cannot enter upon the library's property and people who
are going west along the alley cannot cut through to get behind Dr. Proudfit's property. The entire
alley will finally be closed off.
Mr. Masters stated that the City Engineer is concerned about continued access to the north/south
alley. To resolve this concern, Dr. Proudfit has agreed to give a public easement along the alley
which runs to the south of his parking lot which was also vacated some years ago but not closed off.
He will dedicate a public easement along the south boundary of his parking lot so that City trash
trucks and anyone else who needs to get to the north/south alley can access it that way. In addition,
if it becomes necessary, he will also dedicate another seven (7) feet on the south part of that parking
lot to give enough width for trash trucks to get through. Mr. Masters advised that when the library
purchased the lot to the west of the library building which is between Dr. Proudfit's office and the
library they also received an easement that runs through his parking lot. This was apparently
something that was given to the owner of that property years ago when Dr. Proudfit came before
this Council for the alley vacation. There is an Access Easement that the library now owns which
runs through his parking lot. The library is agreeing to vacate that Easement through a Quit Claim
Deed. By giving up this Easement, Dr. Proudfit is going to give the City the Easement along the
south boundary of his parking lot which gives the access the City Engineer wants and that should
resolve all of the issues.
Mr. Masters reiterated that the main concern is the safety hazard for both library patrons and for Dr.
Proudfit's patients or employees that use his parking lot. In summary, the whole alley will be closed
off, Dr. Proudfit's lot will be paved and the library lot will be paved. Once Lot #45 is paved for
a parking lot, they will also landscape the south boundary and completely shield off that property
from the house that is to the south. He noted that they understand that if the Council approves this
vacation tonight there is a two (2) week window between publication before it would take effect and
during that two (2) week period of time they will prepare and record the documents that are required
to effectuate the Easements that have to be done by both parties in order to conclude this transaction.
This being the time heretofore set for the Public Hearing on the above bill, proponents and
opponents were given an opportunity to be heard.
Mr. Ken Cotter, Tuesley and Hall, 212 East LaSalle Avenue, South Bend, Indiana, advised that he
represents Dr. Proudfit and that everything that Mr. Masters has told the Council is correct in that
Dr. Proudfit is willing to give the City an Easement for trash pick up. He noted that they have
discussed this matter with at least one (1) of the neighbors whose trash may be affected and they are
willing to move their trash can from the back to the farthest southern portion of their lot so it should
not have an effect on trash pick up. He noted that they do not believe that is going to have any undue
effect on any of the neighbors and they will, if this vacation is passed, along with Mr. Masters,
prepare the appropriate Easements for the City.
There was no one else present wishing to speak to the Council in favor of this bill and there was no
one present wishing to speak against this bill.
Therefore, Councilmember Coleman made a motion that substitute Bill No. 40 -02 be sent favorably
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to full the Council. Councilmember Varner seconded the motion which carried by a voice vote of
seven (7) ayes.
BILL NO. 60 -02 PUBLIC HEARING ON A BILL OF THE COMMON
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA
APPROPRIATING $25,000 WITHIN THE COUNTY
OPTION INCOME TAX FUND (FUND 404) FOR THE
PURPOSE OF PROVIDING ADDITIONAL FUNDING
FOR THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR PROGRAM
WITHIN THE CITY OF SOUTH BEND
Councilmember Varner reported that the Personnel & Finance Committee had a Public Hearing and
committee meeting on this bill and sends it to the Council with a favorable recommendation.
Ms. Pam Meyer, Director, Division of Community Development, 224 West Jefferson Boulevard,
South Bend, Indiana, made the presentation for this bill.
Ms. Meyer informed the Council that this bill will appropriate twenty -five thousand dollars
($25,000.00) of County Option Income Tax funds for use in the commercial corridor programs
specifically the Lincolnway West Corridor. These funds were the result of land sales on the corridor
and have been reallocated back into that fund for Lincolnway. Ms. Meyer noted that the request
is to use these funds for special police patrols on Lincolnway.
This being the time heretofore set for the Public Hearing on the above bill, proponents and
opponents were given an opportunity to be heard.
There being no one present wishing to speak to the Council either in favor of or in opposition to this
bill, Councilmember Coleman made a motion for favorable recommendation to full Council
concerning this bill. Councilmember Kelly seconded the motion which carried by a voice vote of
seven (7) ayes.
BILL NO. 42 -02 PUBLIC HEARING ON A BILL OF THE COMMON
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA,
AMENDING CHAPTER 13, BY THE INCLUSION OF
NEW ARTICLE 1, ENTITLED GANG LOITERING
REGULATIONS AND DELETING SECTIONS 13 -55 AND
13 -56 OF THE SOUTH BEND MUNICIPAL CODE
Councilmember Coleman made a motion to hear the substitute version of this bill. Councilmember
Kelly seconded the motion which carried by a voice vote of seven (7) ayes.
Councilmember Pfeifer reported that the Residential Neighborhood Committee and the Health and
Public Safety Committee sends this bill to the Council with a favorable recommendation.
Councilmember Charlotte Pfeifer, 2nd District, made the presentation for this bill.
Councilmember Pfeifer indicated that this is the third of a series of quality of life ordinances which
she cosponsored with Councilmember King and is a bill that was initiated by neighbors. About
three (3) years ago in the far west side, which is commonly called "the Lake," and on the near west
side specifically near the corner of Linden and Johnson Street several eighty (80) year old women
approached her and complained about behavior they observed. Sometimes several, or four (4) or
five (5) young men would stand in front of their homes and often use bad language and block the
sidewalk when someone tried to walk by. They were unable to be out in front of their homes to
water their grass or sit on their porches. Sometimes when they came outside these young people
might even turn and say nasty and insulting things causing them to go back inside of their homes.
The other behavior they sometimes observed was that cars would drive by and they would slow
down and the young people would go up to the cars and sometimes an exchange would happen.
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These older, decent, working class women who worked their whole lives just wanted to have some
peace and quiet and they asked her what she was going to do about it.
Councilmember Pfeifer advised that the first thing she did about it was talk to neighborhood groups
and the South Bend Police Department and ask what could be done. She was informed that there
was not anything that could be done because this behavior was taking place on the public sidewalk
and without probable cause a police officer was unable to go up to these people who were standing
there even if they were engaged in this kind of behavior. She contacted Council Attorney Kathleen
Cekanski - Farrand, Councilmembers and Police Departments in the area and they decided to have
a series of workshops. Two (2) workshops were held at IUSB and were cosponsored by the Criminal
Justice Department. Speakers were brought in from Seattle, Washington as well as various Police
Departments. A year later another workshop was held and this time it was based on a gang
ordinance that had been prepared by the Chicago Police Department. At that time, there were a
couple of different municipalities dealing with this kind of behavior. The City of Philadelphia had
this type of problem but it was mostly with their homeless. However, Chicago was dealing with
issues of gang and criminal behavior which is the kind of behavior that was going on in South Bend.
The City of Chicago passed an ordinance which was challenged and taken to the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court found it unconstitutional and sent it back to be refined and to be made more
behavior specific. There were definite concerns about racial profiling and making sure that people
were not stopped and harassed unnecessarily because of their race, sex or ethnic orientation. The
Chicago Police Department refined their ordinance with the blueprint that the Supreme Court
Justices gave them. South Bend was very interested in the Chicago ordinance and a third loitering
conference was held in the evening at the downtown public library.
Under the leadership of the Council Attorney an ordinance was put together which was taken to the
public for input through nine (9) small group neighborhood workshops. The workshops were held
in River Park, Rum Village, the west side, the near west side, at LANA, two (2) at the NNN, at the
Boys and Girls Club and at the Charles Black Recreation Center. Councilmember Pfeifer noted that
she and Council Attorney Kathleen Cekanski Farrand were present at those meetings to address any
kinds of issues that anyone might have and they learned some very good things and heard concerns
by neighbors. They made the ordinance better.
Councilmember Pfeifer reminded members of the Council that she has been before them a couple
of times on this issue. The last time a couple of neighbors came forward with additional concerns
and at that time she recommended that the vote on this ordinance be tabled in order for continued
revisions. Councilmember Pfeifer advised that a delegation from South Bend visited Chicago and
met with the individuals there who have been working with this type of ordinance for years and
again revisions were made. Some of the public concerns raised earlier were that the ordinance
should be City wide and it is City wide. Questions were raised about how hot spots would be
designated. She noted that hot spots will be designated through input from neighbors and
Councilmembers. The Chief of Police would then simply accept all of the evidence and would
accept the area as a hot spot. Councilmember Pfeifer noted that the Chief of Police does not
designate hot spots but will receive input from the neighbors, Councilmembers and through calls
to service which come from the neighbors. She noted that occasionally, due to increased behavior,
there could be some emergency hot spots designated. Councilmember Pfeifer emphasized that the
police officers being able to stop and approach a citizen is going to be behavior driven and behavior
specific and is behavior that is gang or criminal behavior which is defined by the Indiana state law.
A couple young people standing on the corner is not gang behavior and it is not criminal behavior
and no officer has any right to approach any person who is engaged in that kind of nonviolent non-
criminal, non -gang behavior. If this ordinance is passed tonight, it will not be effective until January
of 2003.
Councilmember Pfeifer indicated that there will be additional extensive training involving
Councilmembers, the Chief of Police, the Mayor and administration. When the Council feels good
about it, it will then go to the next level with the Police Department and all the way down to make
sure that everyone is clear and on board. Councilmember Pfeifer noted that she has a letter from
Police Chief Larry Bennett supporting this ordinance and pointed out that there are a lot of
misconceptions about this ordinance and they want to make sure that everyone is clear. She noted
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that neighbors will also be included in this training to make sure that they are respectful of citizens
and to make sure that people understand their rights.
Councilmember Pfeifer thanked the City of Chicago and their Police Department and Prosecutor's
office. She thanked the people who assisted with the conferences, as well as the South Bend Police
Department, the Mayor's office, the City administration and Councilmembers for their assistance
and input. She thanked the neighborhood associations and partnership centers and the citizens for
being so patient.
In conclusion, Councilmember Pfeifer reiterated that this ordinance was initiated by older citizens
who expect the Council to do their duty. It was not her creation or the Mayor's creation, it was
citizens wanting to enjoy their senior years. Councilmember Pfeifer asked the Council to pass this
ordinance. She noted that Councilmember Aranowski, who is out of town this evening, assured
her that he would vote in favor of this bill if he were present.
Councilmember Pfeifer read Police Chief Bennett's letter into the record as follows:
August 26, 2002
Attention: Council Woman, Charlotte Pfeifer
Councilman Karl King
Honorable Council Members,
I am sending this letter in support of Substitute Bill No. 42 -02, Gang Loitering. Myself,
along with five other Commanders recently accompanied Council Person Charlotte Pfeifer to
Chicago, Illinois to discuss their loitering ordinance. Although the Chicago Ordinance is much
stronger with the ability to arrest a violator, our Ordinance will still be of value. The ordinance
would become another discretionary tool for an officer to use in dealing with the problems within
his /her respective area of assignment.
There is some concern by the membership of the department in reference to its enforcement.
The department will have the responsibility of training and implementing the proper administrative
paperwork flow in order to enforce the ordinance. There are many misconceptions by some of the
officers simply because they are not familiar with the total ordinance and how it can be enforced.
For the officers who are familiar with their assigned areas and know who the problem people
are within their assigned areas, the ordinance gives them an additional tool to help stop certain illegal
activities.
Sincerely,
s /Larry E. Bennett
Chief of Police
Councilmember Pfeifer noted that this ordinance was never meant to be a silver bullet. It was never
meant to be an end all do all. It is another ordinance to help citizens reclaim the streets and continue
to fight to make sure that there is quality of life in the City of South Bend.
This being the time heretofore set for the Public Hearing on the above bill, proponents and
opponents were given an opportunity to be heard.
Ms. Lucille Spaulding, President, LaSalle Area Neighborhood Association, no address given, noted
that she was present the last time this ordinance was up for Public Hearing and advised that the
neighborhood still supports this ordinance. She informed the Council that people should feel safe
driving through their neighborhoods and they should feel safe getting in or out of their vehicles to
go to or from their residence or while shopping in the neighborhoods. Citizens don't need gangs or
drug dealers hanging around or standing or blocking traffic in the neighborhoods. They don't need
to be intimidated by verbal language or body language. Gang and drug dealers do not have a place
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in our neighborhoods. Ms. Spaulding told the Council this ordinance is needed so their
neighborhoods have something to fight with.
Mr. William Sagendorf, residing on the southeast side of South Bend on Indiana Avenue, indicated
that he was curious about this ordinance in that he lives across from Honeymoon Park at the corner
of Lebanon and Indiana Avenue. He informed the Council that every spring and summer the park
is taken over by gangs with members in the 25 -35 year old age range. He noted that there are
anywhere from fifty (50) to two hundred (200) people at a time in that park. They sit along the side
of his property drinking beer and throwing their trash on his property. He noted that he sees drug
dealing going on in every one of their cars and there is nothing that he has been able to do about it.
Mr. Sagendorf stated that he would like to see this ordinance passed because it is a shame that a
person cannot come out of their own house. He further noted that these individuals have threatened
to burn down his house. In conclusion, Mr. Sagendorf informed the Council that he would
appreciate their passing this bill tonight.
Mr. Charles Leone, City Attorney, 1400 County -City Building, South Bend, Indiana, informed the
Council that the Legal Department has worked with the Council Attorney in designing and revising
the language of this bill and he believes that the language makes it more effective now in its
substitute fashion. There are a number of provisions in the bill which have been criticized for being
not sufficiently strong but he believes that this ordinance needs to be considered as a tool along with
many other tools available to the Police Department and neighborhoods in order to effectively
enforce the laws in the City. The Legal Department is committed to working with the Police
Department on training. He noted that there is a window between now and the effective date of the
ordinance and somewhat thereafter because he does not expect this type of behavior in the middle
of the winter but they will work together to develop techniques to make sure that the ordinance is
enforced appropriately.
There was no one else present wishing to speak in favor of this ordinance.
The following individuals spoke in opposition to this bill.
Ms. Rita Kopala, Lakeville, Indiana, no address given, advised that she is an elderly woman who
has worked hard all of her life and owns a one hundred fifty (150) acre farm. Ms. Kopala recounted
for the Council her two (2) incidents of being arrested. She advised that she is telling the Council
her story because the police of South Bend also picketed the same places she did but did not get
arrested. This makes her very angry for someone who has not broken the law. Ms. Kopala stated
that she would like to give her opinion of this bill. If a person has done nothing wrong in 1999 and
2001 and was arrested anyway and now has a record she believes the Council should pay attention.
She noted that she has talked to many people and she has rights and if the Council thinks that there
is anything that is not going to happen to people like her in the future if it happened without this law
it can happen again. She stated that too much power to the police force is not good.
Mr. John Swanson, 1321 West Washington Street, South Bend, Indiana, informed the Council that
he is in favor of law and order but at the same time, being a man of color, he realizes the effect of
loitering laws dating back to the Jim Crow era and the type of people that are usually a target. He
asked the Council to be careful with the way they handle this ordinance. He stated that he knows
that there is a problem but suggested that the City should have a basketball center that was open city
wide where individuals had a choice of going to the gym. He stated that people see guys together
and they look like gangs and thugs and they are going to act like that because they are trying to
impress their peers but they need a place to go. With everyone playing basketball now and with the
push of basketball on television there is a lure of it being appealing. If these individuals had an
alternative he would be all for it but right now with a good conscience he knows what is going to
happen.
Mr. Jim Cierzniak, 1156 East Victoria Street, South Bend, Indiana, noted that the phrase quality of
life reminds him of feel good legislation and he is skeptical of the fact that this ordinance has
supposedly emerged from a handful of eighty (80) year -old women who are complaining about this
type of behavior in their neighborhoods. He believes that if they had those concerns and called the
police they would probably get some action. Mr. Cierzniak also stated that he is sympathetic to a
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previous speaker who told of his problems with the park by his house. He asked Councilmember
Pfeifer to explain in detail how this ordinance will help that particular problem which is a very real
problem. In regards to training, since everyone is going to be trained, are the thugs going to get
lessons on deportment or behavior or are just the law- abiding people going to get those lessons. Mr.
Cierzniak stated that he does not believe this ordinance will make any difference in the long run.
Any elderly person who thinks that this somehow is going to make their life better is just not
thinking clearly and he doesn't believe those elderly people think that way at all about this
ordinance.
There was no one else present wishing to speak in opposition to this bill.
In rebuttal, Councilmember Pfeifer advised that the concern valid for her to address is to remind
people that this ordinance will address very specific behavior which is gang behavior and criminal
behavior that is defined by the Indiana state law. She reiterated that citizens came to her and asked
her to do something about the problem and the idea of this loitering law came from several police
officers and it is because of that that this ordinance was drafted. She noted that she never said and
never will say that this ordinance is going to be a silver bullet and it is not going to take care of all
the ills. Councilmember Pfeifer stated that she feels that as a Councilmember she has a certain moral
obligation. When she ran for office her pledge to the people who voted for her was that if they had
issues going on in their neighborhoods and if there was something that she could do about it that she
would. This is the best ordinance that all of the legal minds and the Council could come up with.
It is a first step in dealing with inappropriate gang and criminal behavior that is going on in our
community. There is no constitutional right to loiter, there is no constitutional right to stand on the
sidewalk and use foul language, there is no constitutional right to deal drugs, there is no
constitutional right to intimidate a person who wants to come outside and sit by their house and that
is what this ordinance addresses. She noted that she is just as concerned about men of color as
anyone else and is also concerned about police officers who put their lives on the line to keep
citizens safe. Councilmember Pfeifer stated that she has every belief that police officers care about
this community just like the Council does and she asked them to please vote for this ordinance.
Council Attorney Kathleen Cekanski - Farrand noted that she would like to address some issues raised
by Mrs. Kopala and Mr. Cierzniak. With regard to Mrs. Kopala's specific example regarding her
arrest, a City ordinance was not involved because the City Council is prohibited from having any
criminal sanctions with regard to that behavior so it had to be an alleged state law violation of
trespass. The only section, in addition to the gang or narcotics related loitering that is addressed
in this ordinance, is loitering that would obstruct a public way and is located in Section 13 -7 of the
proposed ordinance. This ordinance clarifies what is currently on the books. No person shall loiter
or remain in a public place for the purpose of obstructing by vehicular or pedestrian traffic which
results in impeding the use of that public way. The conduct referred to by Mrs. Kopala is not
covered by this proposed ordinance. In regards to Mr. Cierzniak's request of Councilwoman
Pfeifer to give an example of what the police officers would do in the situation described by Mr.
Sagendorf, Council Attorney Cekanski - Farrand directed Mr. Cierzniak to Section 13 -4 of the
proposed ordinance which is entitled "Narcotics Related Loitering Prohibited" which specifically
follows the U.S. Supreme Court guidelines with regard to how a police officer using sight and sound
of what that officer is observing then having to inform all such persons that they are engaged in
loitering in a targeted area and they would have to order those persons to disperse. Also, they would
have to inform them that they would be subject to penalties and if they failed to abide by that order
to leave that area that they could be subject to further penalties. She noted that as Councilwoman
Pfeifer pointed out the City of Chicago had almost seventeen thousand (17,000) individuals that
were moved on and not arrested. This ordinance is intended to take back those areas that are
targeted with either gang or drug related loitering.
Councilmember Coleman made a motion that substitute Bill No. 42 -02 go favorably to full Council.
Councilmember Kelly seconded the motion.
Councilmember White noted that she has raised some concerns about this particular ordinance and
she would like to thank Councilmembers Pfeifer and King and the City Attorney. She noted that her
concerns were that if the City is going to have this type of ordinance then it should be City wide and
that is being addressed. She further noted that she is concerned about the enforcement of this
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ordinance to insure that it is going to be consistently and fairly applied and she will be monitoring
that. In regards to training, training can only go to a certain point and she doesn't think that anyone
would debate the issue that there is a major challenge in our community and she sees this ordinance
as one tool to begin to address that problem. Councilmember White noted that she does support the
ordinance as it has been modified, but she still has some concerns and will be working with the City
Council as well as the various levels of City government to insure that enforcement does occur and
that it is consistently and fairly applied.
Councilmember Varner noted that he is fortunate that he does not live in a neighborhood where this
type of behavior is a problem. But the reports he gets regarding this type of behavior in numerous
parts of the City are something that he believes very much and there are people reaching out and
asking for help. Whatever the City may have used to this point may have worked to a degree but
it apparently isn't enough. Councilmember Varner stated that if he lived in a neighborhood and had
the problem of individuals congregating around his property, he would want the City to do
everything possible to help. He noted that he doesn't know if this ordinance is going to work. A
lot of good effort and good intention has gone into it and it is his fondest wish that it be the silver
bullet. He noted that he doesn't believe that it will be, but it may help and if it doesn't do anything
but keep these folks moving along so they cannot congregate in one particular area, than that in
itself would be an accomplishment. So, despite the objections from some and recognizing the fact
that he doesn't have to deal with this in his personal life, he stated that he is prepared to help those
citizens that do deal with this on a daily basis and to that extent he is happy to support this bill and
hopes that it has the desired effect and perhaps even more so.
Councilmember Kelly indicated that as Councilmember Pfeifer pointed out this ordinance is
certainly not a panacea and it is not going to be the end all of problems in the community but it does
provide assistance to solve some problems the community has been facing for some time. He also
noted that as Councilmember Varner pointed out there are pockets in the community where serious
trouble occurs and if some can be prevented by moving people along he believes it will help and he
will support the bill.
The motion carried by a voice vote of seven (7) ayes.
RISE AND REPORT
Councilmember Coleman made motion to rise and report to the full Council. Councilmember
White seconded the motion which carried by a voice vote of seven (7) ayes.
Loretta J d , City Jerk
REGULAR MEETING RECONVENED
Be it remembered that the Common Council of the City of South Bend reconvened in the Council
Chambers on the fourth floor of the County -City Building at 8:00 p.m. Council President Roland
Kelly presided with seven (7) members present.
BILLS - THIRD READING
ORDINANCE NO. 9345 -02 AN ORDINANCE TO VACATE THE FOLLOWING
DESCRIBED PROPERTY: THE FIRST EAST /WEST
ALLEY SOUTH OF MISHAWAKA AVENUE FROM 21sT
STREET WEST TO THE FIRST NORTH/SOUTH ALLEY;
THE FIRST NORTH/SOUTH ALLEY WEST OF 21sT
STREET FROM THE FIRST EAST /WEST ALLEY SOUTH
OF MISHAWAKA AVENUE
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This bill had third reading. Councilmember Coleman made a motion to hear the substitute version
of this bill as was in the Committee of the Whole. Councilmember Pfeifer seconded the motion
which carried by a voice vote of seven (7) ayes. Councilmember Coleman made a motion to pass
this bill as substituted. Councilmember Pfeifer seconded the motion which carried. The bill passed
by a roll call vote of seven (7) ayes.
ORDINANCE NO. 9346 -02 AN ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA APPROPRIATING
$25,000 WITHIN THE COUNTY OPTION INCOME TAX
FUND (FUND 404) FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING
ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE COMMERCIAL
CORRIDOR PROGRAM WITHIN THE CITY OF SOUTH
BEND
This bill had third reading. Councilmember Coleman made a motion to pass this bill.
Councilmember King seconded the motion which carried. The bill passed by a roll call vote of
seven (7) ayes.
ORDINANCE NO. 9347 -02 AN ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA, AMENDING
CHAPTER 13, BY THE INCLUSION OF NEW ARTICLE
1, ENTITLED GANG LOITERING REGULATIONS AND
DELETING SECTIONS 13 -55 AND 13 -56 OF THE SOUTH
BEND MUNICIPAL CODE
This bill had third reading. Councilmember Coleman made a motion that the Council entertain the
substitute verison of this bill as was heard in the Committee of the Whole. Councilmember King
seconded the motion which carried by a voice vote of seven (7) ayes. Councilmember Pfeifer made
a motion to pass this bill as substituted. Councilmember King seconded the motion which carried
by a roll call vote of seven (7) ayes.
RESOLUTIONS
There were no Resolutions to come before the Council at this time.
BILLS - FIRST READING
BILL NO. 63 -02 FIRST READING ON A BILL LEVYING TAXES AND
FIXING THE RATE OF TAXATION FOR THE PURPOSE
OF RAISING REVENUE TO MEET THE NECESSARY
EXPENSES OF THE CIVIL CITY OF SOUTH BEND FOR
THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING DECEMBER 31, 2003
This bill had first reading. Councilmember Coleman made a motion to refer this bill to the
Personnel and Finance Committee and set it for Second Reading and Public Hearing on September
9, 2002 and Third Reading on September 23, 2002. Councilmember Pfeifer seconded the motion
which carried by a voice vote of seven (7) ayes.
BILL NO. 64 -02 FIRST READING ON A BILL APPROPRIATING MONIES
FOR THE PURPOSE OF DEFRAYING THE EXPENSES
OF SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS OF THE CIVIL CITY OF
SOUTH BEND, INDIANA FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
BEGINNING JANUARY 1, 2003, AND ENDING
DECEMBER 31, 2003, INCLUDING ALL OUTSTANDING
CLAIMS AND OBLIGATIONS, AND FIXING A TIME
WHEN THE SAME SHALL TAKE EFFECT
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This bill had first reading. Councilmember Pfeifer made a motion to refer this bill to the Personnel
and Finance Committee and set it for Second Reading and Public Hearing on September 9, 2002 and
Third Reading on September 23, 2002. Councilmember Coleman seconded the motion which
carried by a voice vote of seven (7) ayes.
BILL NO. 65 -02 FIRST READING ON A BILL OF THE COMMON
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SOUTH BEND
APPROPRIATING MONIES FOR THE PURPOSE OF
DEFRAYING THE EXPENSES OF THE DESIGNATED
ENTERPRISE FUNDS OF THE CITY OF SOUTH BEND,
INDIANA, FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING
JANUARY 1, 2003 AND ENDING DECEMBER 31, 2003,
INCLUDING ALL OUTSTANDING CLAIMS AND
OBLIGATIONS, AND FIXING A TIME WHEN THE
SAME SHALL TAKE EFFECT
This bill had first reading. Councilmember Coleman made a motion to refer this bill to the
Personnel and Finance Committee and set it for Second Reading and Public Hearing on September
9, 2002 and Third Reading on September 23, 2002. Councilmember King seconded the motion
which carried by a voice vote of seven (7) ayes.
BILL NO. 66 -02 FIRST READING ON A BILL FIXING MAXIMUM
SALARIES AND WAGES OF APPOINTED OFFICERS
AND NON - BARGAINING EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY
OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA, FOR THE CALENDAR
YEAR 2003
This bill had first reading. Councilmember Coleman made a motion to refer this bill to the
Personnel and Finance Committee and set it for Second Reading, Public Hearing and Third Reading
on September 9, 2002. Councilmember Pfeifer seconded the motion which carried by a voice vote
of seven (7) ayes.
BILL NO. 67 -02 FIRST READING ON A BILL OF THE COMMON
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA,
FIXING THE MAXIMUM SALARIES AND WAGES OF
TEAMSTER EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF SOUTH
BEND, INDIANA, FOR THE CALENDAR YEARS 2003,
2004, 2005, AND 2006
This bill had first reading. Councilmember Coleman made a motion to refer this bill to the
Personnel and Finance Committee and set it for Second Reading, Public Hearing and Third Reading
on September 9, 2002. Councilmember Varner seconded the motion which carried by a voice vote
of seven (7) ayes.
BILL NO. 68 -02 FIRST READING ON A BILL OF THE COMMON
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA,
SETTING THE ANNUAL SALARIES FOR THE MAYOR
AND FOR THE CITY CLERK FOR CALENDAR YEAR
2003
This bill had first reading. Councilmember Pfeifer made a motion to refer this bill to the Personnel
and Finance Committee and set it for Second Reading, Public Hearing and Third Reading on
October 14, 2002. Councilmember Varner seconded the motion which carried by a voice vote of
seven (7) ayes.
REGULAR MEETING
UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
AUGUST 26. 2002
REPORTS FROM AREA PLAN COMMISSION:
It is noted that the Council is in receipt of recommendations from the Area Plan Commission of St.
Joseph County, for the following ordinances based on their Public Hearing held on August 20,2002:
BILL NO. 48 -02 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2004 E. EDISON ROAD, IN THE
CITY OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA
BILL NO. 49 -02 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR
THE CITY OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA, AS AMENDED FOR
PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE 100 BLOCK OF WEST ANGELA
BLVD. IN THE CITY OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA
Councilmember Coleman made a motion to refer these bills to the Zoning and Annexation
Committee and set them for Public Hearing and Third Reading on September 9, 2002.
Councilmember Pfeifer seconded the motion which carried by a voice vote of seven (7) ayes.
NEW BUSINESS
There was no new business to come before the Council at this time.
PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR
COMMENTS REGARDING RESPONSE TO CONCERNS - RITA KOPALA
Ms. Rita Kopala, no address given, noted that she spoke to the Council during the Public
Hearing on Bill No. 42 -02, and no one mentioned the fact that the police did their picketing
in the same place as she did and asked how anyone could ignore her concerns that
completely. She advised that she has pictures and tape recordings and proof for what
happened to her which was illegal yet she received no response from the Council. She noted
that she grew up in this town and it makes her very ashamed of it.
COMMENTS REGARDING MAYOR'S TRIP TO POLAND /COLLEGE FOOTBALL
HALL OF FAME - JIM CIERZNIAK
Mr. Jim Cierzniak, 1156 East Victoria Street, South Bend, Indiana, informed the Council
that yesterday he read in the South Bend Tribune that the Mayor and a ten (10) person
delegation will be visiting South Bend's Sister City in Poland. Mr. Cierzniak stated that he
resents tax money being used for this type of trip and if individuals want to do this type of
thing they should pay their own way. He noted that the article indicated that the Mayor paid
for all the other people in the delegation and wondered if this was correct.
In regards to the June report from the College Football Hall of Fame, he noted that this report
was routed to the Mayor and only two (2) other Councilmembers. He asked why all the
Councilmembers were not sent this report as they are responsible for the budget of the City.
Mr. Cierzniak informed the Council that he had one question which he asked of Mr. Bernie
Kish concerning this report but has not been able to get an answer. The report indicates that
the admissions revenue for the first (6) six months was seventy -three thousand three hundred
sixty -five dollars ($73,365.00). However, on the next page there is a summary of attendance
and it indicates an attendance of twenty -six thousand plus (26,000 +) with revenues of eighty
thousand two hundred seven dollars ($80,207.00) which is a difference of about seven
thousand dollars ($7,000.00) or ten per cent (10 %). He asked which is correct. Mr.
Cierzniak questioned how good Mr. Kish is at his job since he is not responding to questions
of a simple nature.
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COMMENTS REGARDING 24 -HOUR BASKETBALL FACILITY - JOHN SWANSON
Mr. John Swanson, 1321 West Washington Street, South Bend, Indiana, informed the
Council that he again is asking the Council to build a City wide basketball center so people
from different sides of town could congregate somewhere where they are not seen by the
public because when they are together as a group of black males the first thing people think
is gangs and thugs. He advised that when he has asked these individuals about a gym they
said they would like a place to go as they do not have anyplace to go. Mr. Swanson stated
that no one wants them anywhere and they get kicked out. They have been using the
basketball court in the park behind Marquette School on Sunday mornings but the neighbors
are complaining and asking why they don't go to their own neighborhood. He suggested
that the City build a City wide gym like most big cities have and then if they don't go there
and they are on the streets hanging around they should be locked up because they are up to
no good.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Council, President Kelly adjourned the meeting
at 8:15 p.m.
ATTEST:
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Loretta . D a, Ci Clerk
ATTEST:
Roland Kelly, President ;
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