HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-10-00 Health & Public Safety • . Head and Public Safety Committee
South Bend Common Council
The May 10,2000 meeting of the Health and Public Safety Committee was called to order by its
Chairperson, Council Member Andrew Ujdak at 3:00 p.m. in the Council Informal Meeting
Room.
Persons in attendance included: Council Members Aranowski,Pfeifer,Kelly, King,Varner,
Ujdak, Coleman,Kirsits, and White;John Broden,City Attorney;Luther Taylor,Fire Chief;
Larry Bennet,Police Chief;Richard Switalski,Assistant Fire Chief; Randy Magdalinski,
Assistant Fire Chief; Thomas Broden,Deputy Attorney,M. Catherine Roemer, City Controller;
Fred Jaroniak of the Fire Department, Sam Walsh,Firefighter Wage Committee members, Terry
Bland of the South Bend Tribune, and Kathleen Cekanski-Farrand, Council Attorney.
Council Member Ujdak that called upon members of the South Bend Fire Department to update
the committee on the proposed physical ability testing to be used in the department. Chief
Taylor then showed a fifteen(15)minute video. It highlighted eight(8)events which must be
completed in 10 minutes and 20 seconds(current time is 6 minutes 30 seconds on a ranked
basis) which would be on a pass/fail basis. The events include: ladder drills,hose drag,
equipment carry,ladder raise&extension,forcible entry,tunnel event search,rescue event,and
ceiling breach and pull. The events have been developed over a two-year period. The test is
designed to be a valid and legitimate reflection of the job. It includes recruitment and training
mentoring. Both the safety of the firefighters and the public are instrumental in its development.
Chief Taylor noted that he has shown this film to the Board of Public Safety and to the Mayor.
A facility would be needed for proper set-up. An area of 100' by 150' would be necessary.
In response to a question from Council Member Kelly, Chief Taylor noted that of the 275
applicants 75%dropped out and between 65 to 75 made the final list. The Chief noted that their
legal counsel,Mr. Bodnar has been involved in reviewing the test. The fire department has sent
two firefighters to Indianapolis where the system will soon be in place.
Council Member Kelly suggested that such a system be used after a firefighter is on the
department for overall health and public safety concerns. Chief Taylor noted that advancements
have been made in the department on fitness and wellness issues.
Council Member Varner suggested that it be made available to current firefighters but not be a
requirement.
Council Member Kirsits noted that validation studies have been made under Chief Nowicki and
that testing has been moved from the Central Fire Station to Station# 11 almost 12 years ago.
Assistant Chief Richard Switalski then highlighted portions of the handouts(copy attached).
The testing would be pass/fail. Current testing is 50%written and 50%agility with the current
written test basically being an IQ test. The Institute for Public Safety Personnel, Inc. under the
direction of Dr. Jeffrey C. Savitsky has developed the testing procedures being cognizant of their
legal defensibility,the integrity of the testing materials,being consistent and fair, and their job
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relatedness. He noted that the Evansville Fire Department uses them. The overall cost would be
between$ 8,500 tO $ 10,000.
They have suggested a tutoring program before testing with a mock test. Chief Taylor noted that
study material would also be made available. The Chief also noted that once the testing
programs were in place that they could be made available to other fire departments on a fee
basis.
Council Member Kirsits noted the importance of making the testing particular to South Bend.
Transport survival for example could be similar to those implemented by the Phoenix Fire
Department.
Assistant Chief Randy Magdalinski then reviewed the proposed re-districting of medic units to
improve response times. The national average for advanced life support(ALS)is 4-6 minutes
with 5.4 minutes being the mean ALS. South Bend's ALS is 6.8 minutes. He then reviewed the
material for 1999 calls by medic and district(copy attached). The four(4)districts would be
centered out of the following locations: 1. Old fire station# 10, 2. Central Fire Station, 3.
Station# 2, and 4. Station#4(Olive). The runs have been rotated in the past. The new system
should reduce the busiest times occurring Monday through Friday addressing in-service
transports. Although fire calls have been reduced,EMS runs have increased. Chief Magdalinski
expressed concern with regard to maintaining an adequate level of medics. He noted that there
is a much higher rate of survival of a heart attack if the person is attended to within 5.4 minutes.
The national average on an ambulance is five(5)years.
Council Member Kelly inquired into the turnover of medics. Chief Magdalinski stated that pay
is an issue and that burnout is also a concern. There were 9,910 calls last year. 20%were ALS
and 80%were BLS. He would like firefighters and paramedics to have the opportunity to do
both fire suppression and medic services. AEMT nationally can start an IV and work a monitor
and provide the 1st line of cardiac drugs. Washington D.C. utilizes two(2)paramedics on their
rigs. He noted that last year the city lost two(2)paramedics for more base pay elsewhere. Many
wish to expand their careers in the department.
In response to a question from Dr. Varner, Chief Magdalinski noted that certification costs run
$500 per year for AEMT and$1,500 per year for paramedics,plus the costs of overtime for
training. The last class cost approximately$ 15,000.
Council Member Kirsits noted that the total number of runs are up even though fires are down.
In response to a question from Council Member Ujdak, it was noted that in 1998 60%of the
calls were for people less than 65 years of age. A formal press conference will be held later this
week at old Fire Station# 10 and the Council was invited to be in attendance.
Council Member Ujdak thanked Chief Taylor and his staff for the presentations.
At this point in the meeting the following individuals joined the Committee meeting: Jim Frick,
Patrick E. Mangan,Public Policy Consultant; Joseph E. Sergio,President of citizens for
Community Values, Inc.,Mr. John Broden, City Attorney, and members of the South Gateway
Commercial Corridor Business District.
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Council Member Ujdak then noted that the remainder of the Committee meeting would be
devoted to reviewing items related to proposed Bill No. 28-00 which would amend Chapter 4,
Section 18.5 of the South Bend Municipal Code regarding adult businesses.
Police Chief Larry Bennett then reviewed the calls for services to nine(9)establishments,
namely: Glo-worm,Knockers,Little Denmark,Adult Emporium, Torch,Peaches,Kitty Kat,
Lipstick Lounge and Caparell's from May of 1999 to May of 2000(copy attached). He also
briefly reviewed some of the police incidents for such establishments(copy attached). He noted
that a comparison to other bars and taverns was also made with Corby's having 75 calls, Stude's
having 105 calls,Moondogs having 45 calls and Pejza's having 75 calls.
Council Member Ujdak then directed a series of questions to the Legal Department. He focused
initially on the definition of"secondary harmful negative effects". Mr.. Broden noted that it was
both a judicial and legislative in nature which has evolved over time. He does not anticipate
putting a definition of it in the proposed ordinance. He noted that the 32 land use studies
conducted over the past twenty(20)years provides a sound basis.
Mr. Mangan noted that increased crime, decreased property values and increased blight were all
proper criteria of secondary harmful negative effects. Additionally first hand knowledge of such
conditions and the series of articles run in the South Bend Tribune on adult businesses would
also be made of record.
Mr. Broden stated that the Statement of Purpose and intent would reflect such historical data and
therefore a definition would not be necessary.
Council Member Kelly noted that the discussion on the secondary harmful negative effects has
been ongoing in the community.
In response to a question raised by Council Member Kirsits it was noted that the South Gateway
area alone have twenty-five(25)vacant buildings, and that many of the properties on South
Michigan have been devalued.
Council President Pfeifer inquired into how you evaluate increased crime. Mr. Broden noted
that the police reports show a high crime rate in these areas over others. He noted that the
blueprint is established by the land use studies.
The Council Attorney inquired whether a substitute version of Bill No. 28-00 would be
forthcoming highlighting the increased crime, decreased property values and increased blight.
Mr. Broden stated that a substitute bill would be filed with the Council by the end of the month
incorporating such information and how it has affected the quality of life issues as well as the
integrity of the neighborhoods.
Discussion then took place on the Erie,PA. case which was not a restriction of time case. This
case is important in light of its reaffirmation of secondary negative harmful effects and the
power of local government to regulate through proper ordinances. Council Member Ujdak asked
for a copy of the case for the committee.
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Mr. Mangan noted that time and manner issues are regulated by licensing regulations and that
place issues are regulated by zoning regulations. He further noted that their attorney would be
available for training at no cost to the city.
The Committee then began discussion of the"Delaware Case". Mr. Broden noted that this is a
time case involving a 10 p.m.closing. Mr. Broden offered to provide copies of it later to the
committee. It was not helpful on the pre-emption issue but does address time,place and manner
issues. A Delaware state statute was involved. It was found to be reasonable and rational.
Council Member Ujdak inquired into the number of affected businesses. Mr. Mangan stated he
would provide that information, It was also noted that a Colorado case involves a 4 p.m. to
midnight provision which was decided in 1990 and that there is also a New Jersey case
addressing time issues.
Dr. Varner noted that bar operations as opposed to adult businesses should also be considered.
Council Member Aranowski suggested additional work in the area of the Indiana Alcoholic
Beverage Commission and suggested that the City talk to the State Chairperson in light of the
fact that properly licensed liquor establishments may stay open until 3 a.m.
Mr. Broden noted that if a lawsuit was filed in all probability it would ask for injunctive relief
Council Member Ujdak also encouraged the City Administration to have input from the ABC
Indianapolis office.
Council Member Ujdak noted that the next meeting would be next Tuesday at 3 p.m. There
being no further business to come before the Committee, Council Member Ujdak adjourned the
meeting at 5:05 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Council Member Andrew Ujdak, Chairperson
Health and Public Safety Committee
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