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The August 28, 2000 meeting of the Health and Public Safety Committee was called to
order by its Chairperson, Council Member Andrew Ujdak at 4:30 pm in the Council Informal
Meeting room.
Persons in attendance included Council Members Aranowski,Pfeifer,King,Ujdak,White,
Varner,Coleman,Kelly and Kirsits;Citizen Member Isabelle Gonzalez,Mayor Stephen J. Luecke,
Jeremey Barckley, John Broden, City Attorney, Police Chief Larry Bennett, Aladean DeRose,
Assistant City Attorney, Marco Manani, Jim Frick, Patrick Mangan, Joseph P. Sergio, Sam
Walsh, Members of Citizens for Community Values, Dennis Staffelbach, members of the news
media, and Terry Bland of the '01ttII Ifikutr tt,U,UU , and Kathleen Cekanski-Farrand,
Council Attorney.
Council Member Ujdak noted that the meeting was called to continue review and discussion
of Bill No. 28-00 which would amend Chapter 4, Article 4, Section 4-18.5 addressing "Adult
Businesses"of the South Bend Municipal Code.
Mayor Luecke stated the he is in full support of the substitute version of Bill No. 28-00
(copy attached) which was provided earlier today to the Council. He noted that it includes a 10
p.m. closing time, requires the removal of doors from viewing booths, includes distance
requirements between performers and patrons, requires separate tip jars, requires dancing to cease
at 10 p.m. and the establishments to close, addresses amendments with regard to adult motels.
Mayor Luecke noted that as a community and a city, thousands of dollars have been invested in the
city and especially into the South Gateway area. Every tool possible should be used to maintain
this investment. He noted that the impact from adult businesses have created a negative secondary
impact on the area and that he as Mayor is willing to let the final determination be in the courts.
Mayor Luecke stated that he believes that the ordinance creates appropriate steps for enforcement
and urged passage of the substitute bill.
John Broden, City Attorney, stated that he had received a letter from Bruce A. Taylor,
President and Chief Counsel of the National Law Center for Families and Children(copy attached)
which offers his legal services to the city on a pro-bono basis. He also noted that both he and
Aladean DeRose had the opportunity to attend the oral argument on the Mishawaka lawsuit in
Federal District Court where the Mishawaka ordinance was upheld.
Police Chief Larry Bennett spoke in favor of the substitute bill. He noted that the South
Bend Police Department focuses on community oriented policing which involves a partnership
with the community and neighborhoods. He stated that the secondary negative effects caused by
adult businesses is a quality of life issue. Chief Bennett stated that it is time for a change.
Dr. Varner noted that a one-page handout (copy attached) was provided to the Committee
which addressing the licensing of managers and entertainers. Council Member Ujdak noted that he
had prepared these proposed amendments based on research done by the Council Attorney earlier
this Summer. He noted that some of the definitions were taken from the draft provided to the
Committee at its June meeting,and stated that he believes their inclusion would strengthen the bill.
Council Member Kelly stated that he would prefer to move forward on just the substitute
bill tonight without the licensing provisions for managers and entertainers.
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Council President Pfeifer inquired whether Council Member Ujdak's amendments would
provide another tool to the Administration for enforcement and Council Member White inquired
about the overall intent of the amendments.
Council Member Aranowski stated that under-age dancers were often a problem when he
was a member of the Alcoholic Beverage Commission. There would often be problems of false
social security numbers and false driver's licenses. He thought that Council Member Ujdak's
amendments may help address these concerns.
Council Member Ujdak stated that he would offer the amendments as a friendly amendment
to Substitute Bill No. 28-00. He noted that he had discussed the amendments with Mr. Broden
last week.
Council Member King stated that he did not want to muddy the waters with adding new
amendments to the Substitute Bill. He stated that he did not know if they would complicate the Bill
or not and asked the Legal Department for a response. Aladean DeRose stated that they may help
with regard to underage dancers and she did not believe that they would detract from the Bill. She
also noted that they may help the owners of adult businesses for better compliance
Council Member Kirsits spoke in favor of including Council Member Ujdak's
amendments. He stated that he believed that they were similar to the Delaware regulations. He
stated that the Council has had Council Member's proposals since June which should have
provided ample time for all concerned to review them. He noted that since one establishment has
already made it known that they are going after 18 year olds as patrons that the amendments would
be an asset. He also inquired about the language on page 4, 9 2 of the substitute bill where
reference is made to"February 15, 199r.
Following discussion, Council Member White made a motion, seconded by Citizen
Member Isabelle Gonzalez that the last sentence of q 2 on page 4 be struck. The motion passed.
Assistant City Attorney Aladean DeRose stated that after conferring with Mr. Broden and
Mr. Dennis Staffelbach, that Council Member Ujdak's amendments may add confusion to the Bill.
She stated that they may ultimately be good but could be added at a later time.
City Attorney John Broden added that the City of Peoria had an ordinance where alias
names were challenged several years ago.
Mr. Dennis Staffelbach noted that as a general rule including licensing of managers would
be an excellent idea. He suggested that if the city pursues this area that licensing of managers,
dances and owners of such establishments be considered.
Mr. Patrick Mangan noted that he had provided a memorandum on the final version of
Substitute Bill No. 28-00 to the Council (copy attached) which he provided as a summary of why
the bill should be passed this evening.
Council Member White spoke in favor of substitute bill no. 28-00. She stated that she
believes it is a strong ordinance. The timing of the amendments offered by Council Member Ujdak
posed a problem which she thought could be acted upon at a later point in time.
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Council Member Kirsits stated that bouncers and enforcers should also be included in the bill. He
stressed that their inclusion with Council Member Ujdak's amendments would make it a stronger
Iicensing measure which would be more effective when enforced.
Joseph Sergio spoke in favor of the substitute bill. He noted that the entire topic was
thoroughly evaluated.
Jim Frick spoke in favor of the substitute bill. He noted that there are 104 members of the
South Gateway Association and that they are in favor of the substitute bill. He added that many
other associations have also voiced their support of the measure by participating in the community
walk yesterday.
Dennis Staffelbach stated that the Council and Administration have developed a good
legislative history and have had good legal involvement throughout the process.
Patrick Mangan stated that for over a year this bill has been under scrutiny. He thanked
Mayor Luecke for his leadership in this area and the tremendous support from the community and
Council.
No one spoke in opposition to the substitute bill.
Following discussion, a second amendment was made to page 4 of the substitute bill (see
attached copy) Council Member Kirsits made a motion, seconded by Citizen Member Isabelle
Gonzalez amending page 4 and the final section of the bill adding a forty-five (45) day effective
period. The motion passed.
Council Member Kelly then made a motion, seconded by Council Member White that
Substitute Bill No. 00-28, as amended, be recommended favorably to Council. The motion
passed.
There being no further business to come before the Committee, Council Member Ujdak
adjourned the meeting at 5:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Council Member Andrew Ujdak,Chairperson
Health and Public Safety Committee
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