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The January 26, 1998 meeting of the Community and Economic Development Committee
was called to order by its Chairperson, Council Member Roland Kelly at 5:05 p.m. in the
Council informal meeting room.
Persons in attendance included Council Members: Aranowski, Pfeifer, Kelly, Broden,
Varner, Ujdak, Coleman, Hosinski, Sniadecki; Sue Hodgson, Bob Luann, Jon Hunt,
Mike Beitzinger, Terry Bland, Laura Smith, Ed Levy, Mike Dobson, Dick Best, Kim
Rybicki,Jack Hickey,Jackie Roelke,John Chrisman, and Kathleen Cekanski-Farrand.
Council Member Kelly noted that the first item on the agenda was to review Bill No. 10-98
which would appropriate$2.4 million dollars of Section 108 loan funds.
Beth Leonard, Director of Financial and Program Management for the Community and
Economic Development Department, made the presentation. She noted that $150,000
would be for the rehabilitation of the Center for the Homeless, 450,000 would be for the
construction of an addition to the LaSalle Park Recreation Center and the remaining$1.8
million would be for downtown redevelopment activities. She noted that the Center for the
Homeless and the LaSalle Park improvements would be repaid from CDBG and that the
downtown development would be repaid from TIF, EDIT or Civil City Funds. It was
noted that the 108 loan monies have not been approved at this point by the Federal
Government.
Council Member Broden requested a background summary of 108 loans. Beth Leonard
noted that it was established in 1974 by the Federal Government. Monies are requested
each year with the city guaranteeing that they will repay such monies from Block Grant
Funds.
In response to a question raised by Council Member Varner, it was noted that repayment
would take place over a twelve year period,with staggered payments being made.
Council Member Ujdak questioned several items, beginning with the Hardee's property.
He questioned whether there was a primary developer for this property. Mr. Hunt stated
that they would have to go through the public bidding process with all potential developers.
He has had discussions with potential bidders on this parcel.
Council Member Ujdak questioned if he could identify publicly the proposed developers
and was advised that he could not do that publicly,but would updated him privately.
Council Member Ujdak why the Hardee block was proposed as opposed to the Monroe
Michigan area where Fat Daddy's is located.
Mr.Hunt noted that a Real Estate strategy team was established approximately one and one
half years ago. They prioritized that class A office space is needed and that approximately
15 blocks should be densely developed. He also noted that densely developed class A
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space should be located near governmental buildings,high visibility areas,or near the city
parking garages. Six potential cites were reviewed. He noted that he would be happy to
provide a copy of this study.
Council Member Hosinski questioned the criteria being used, since he believes that the
Northeast corner of Colfax and Michigan would be perfect for high density development.
Mr. Hunt noted that restrictions for the past 15 to 20 years have been in effect on that
property.
Council Member Ujdak questioned whether the Council could go forward since Barb's
Grill is proposed to be designated as a Historic Site. Mr.Hunt stated that he would like the
Common Council not to go forward with such a designation since he believes it would be
another barrier. Mr.Hunt also noted that a unified parking plan is required to be a part of
the four parcel development,beginning with the Hardee's property.
Council Member Ujdak questioned what the final estimate on acquisition and demolition
would be for the four parcels. Mr. Hunt noted that public hearings would take place on
February 6 before the Commission, with all properties being added to the acquisition list.
At least two appraisals must be done on each parcel.
Council Member Varner questioned whether there was an urgency to this proposal. He
voiced concern with regard to acquiring a property,raising the building and then leaving
the property vacant and keeping it off the tax rolls.
Mr.Hunt noted that the Studebaker Museum funds are included as part of the$1.8 million
designated for downtown redevelopments.
Mr. Hunt also noted that appraisal costs would be lower then acquisition costs because of
the demolition and relocation amounts. He noted further that benefits of higher taxes and
retaining businesses in the downtown area in job creation should all be considered,versus
real estate taxes being generated by current property owners. Mr. Hunt further noted that
the department would like to be pro-active to a degree and is protected by the public bidding
process.
Council Member Varner questioned whether tax abatement is anticipated for the four parcel
area involving Hardee's. Mr. Hunt stated that he anticipates that tax abatement would be
considered. He stated that an improvement of$60,000 square feet would be entitled to a
10 year real property tax abatement.
Council Member Varner questioned how many potential businesses are relocations. It was
noted that one business of approximately 20,000 square feet is not in the downtown with
the other being in the downtown currently.
Council Member Pfeifer questioned whether Hardee's is still functioning. Mr.Hunt noted
that it is closed on Sunday, closes at 4:00 p.m. on Saturday, and closes at 6:00 p.m. on
weekdays.
Council Member Pfeifer questioned what the relocation costs would be if the property was
acquired. Mr.Hunt noted that relocation costs are not as high when businesses are
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relocated as opposed to residential uses. Mr.Hunt also added that he believes the Transpo
site would be a good location for the Hardee's operation.
Council Member Ujdak voiced concern that he does not have enough information on the
proposed$1.8 million and would like to delay this measure.
Following discussion, Council Member Broden made a motion, seconded by citizen
member Sue Hodgson that Bill No. 10-98 be recommended favorably to Council. The
motion passed.
Council Member Pfeifer questioned whether other Council Members share the concern that
they do not have enough information on this bill. Council Member Ujdak again reiterated
that he believes more information is necessary on the proposed$1.8 million for downtown
renovation and development and is also concerned about the potential players.
The Committee then reviewed Bill No. 98-8 which is a request for the property located at
1010 Prairie Avenue for a five year personal property tax abatement. Mr.Mike Beitzinger
made the presentation. He noted that the petitioner is Huckins Tool and Die Company Inc.
for a total project cost of$157,000. Mr.Beitzinger then reviewed the report dated January
12, 1998 concluding that the petitioner meets the criteria for the five year personal property
tax abatement(copy attached).
Mr. Kenneth Rybicld,President of the Company,was available for questions.
Following discussion, citizen member Sue Hodgson, made a motion seconded by Council
Member Pfeifer that Bill No. 98-8 be recommended favorably to Council. The motion
passed.
The Committee then reviewed Bill No. 98-9 which is a request for five year residential real
property tax abatement for Affiance Associates.
Mr. Mike Beitzinger reviewed the report dated January 19, 1998 which noted that the
petitioner would develop 17 new single family residents in Lilac Trails subdivision. The
project meets the regulations in this area(report attached).
Laura Smith and Mr. Ed Levy then spoke on behalf of the proposed tax abatement. Mr.
Levy noted that there is interest with property tax abatement as offered.
Mr. Levy, in response to a question raised by Council Member Aranowski, assured the
Council Members that notice of the tax abatement program would be given to all owners.
Following discussion, Council Member Pfeifer made a motion seconded by Council
Member Broden that Bill No. 98-9 be recommended favorably to Council. The motion
passed.
The Council Attorney noted that this bill and the next bill,namely Bill No. 98-10 included a
new Section II which sets forth a criteria established by the Common Council in Ordinance
No. 8845 which was passed on December 8, 1997.
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The next item to be reviewed was Bill No. 98-10 which is a five year residential real
property tax abatement request for Rojo Development Inc. Mr.Mike Beitzinger reviewed
the report dated January 19, 1998 which noted that two new single family residents in
Hermitage South Estates subdivision would be involved. The report concluded that the
petitioner meets the criteria for such tax abatement(report attached).
Mr. Jack Hickey and Jackie Roelke spoke in favor of a proposed abatement. Mr. Bill
McCarthy also provided information that this is the first of several tax abatements that
would be filed for the subdivision. A total of 50 lots are involved with 8 homes already
constructed.
Following discussion, citizen member Sue Hodgson made a motion seconded by Council
Member Broden that Bill No. 98-10 be recommended favorably to Council. The motion
passed.
The Committee then reviewed Bill No. 98-11 which is a five year residential real property
tax abatement request for BL Builders Inc. Mr.Mike Beitzinger reviewed the report dated
January 19, 1998 (copy attached). He noted that the petitioner proposes to develop 37 new
single family villas in San Piper Cove subdivision. The petitioner meets the criteria for
such a requested abatement.
Mr. Bob Luann and Mr. Chrisman made the presentation. Mr. Chrisman noted that the
development is primarily aimed at senior citizens. He noted that in light of the various fees
involved,the tax abatement would make the project more attractive for individuals on fixed
incomes. A diagram of the proposed villas was then shown to the Committee. Mr. Luann
noted that 10 villas have been built to date. He noted that the project includes a clubhouse
and that each of the villas would have two full baths and a fireplace.
Council Member Hosinski noted that the type of construction proposed for Sandpiper Cove
should be used in Emerson Forest. Mr. Luann then provided a map (copy attached) of the
Emerson Forest Tax abatement area and highlighted the areas where manufactured housing
may be placed. Council Member Hosinski voiced strong reservations with regard to the
utilization of manufactured housing. Mr. Luann noted that in light of the theft of materials
of over$25,000 during the building process,that he believed he had no alternative but to
go to manufactured housing. In response to a question raised by Council Member Varner,
it was noted that the minimum square footage for homes in the Emerson Forest is 800
square feet plus a basement for an average cost of approximately $90,000. Council
Member Ujdak also voiced concern over types of buildings being utilized in the Emerson
Forest subdivision. Mr. Chrisman noted that furniture was taken from the model homes,
in addition to substantial damage being done to the model homes was taken place during
construction.
Council Member Kelly, the Chairperson of the Committee, thanked Mr. Luann and Mr.
Chrisman for an update on Emerson Forest,but directed attention back to Sandpiper Cove,
since that is the subject manner of the Bill before the Council.
Council President Coleman noted that there is a long history to the Sandpiper Cove
development. He stated that he believes that the current developer has not compromised on
the"look and feel of the development"and stated that he would support the proposed tax
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abatement. Mr. Luann added that he has provided approximately 25% of the cost of
expenses for the clubhouse itself.
Council Member Broden noted that he shares the concerns over the Emerson Forest
subdivision,but would be supporting the Sandpiper Cove development this evening.
Following further discussion, Council Member Broden made a motion, seconded by
Council Member Pfeifer that Bill No. 98-11 be recommended favorably to Council. The
motion passed.
Council Member Kelly noted that further information on the Emerson Forest subdivision is
forthcoming from BL builders Inc.
Council Member Kelly then invited Mr. Mike Dobson and Mr. Dick Best to provide
information on their proposal for the Studebaker Corridor.
The Committee was informed that these individuals are interested in developing the
Northwest corner of South Main and Sample. Pictures of the proposed development then
were circulated among the Committee members. The development would include a
restaurant of possibly Arby's or Lee's Famous Chicken with a 100 seating capacity, a
convenience store, and a gasoline operation. It would be similar to the one located at
Cleveland and Brick which they believe is compatible with commercial and industrial uses.
The gentleman further noted that 50 employees would be involved with an annual payroll
of between $300,000 and $350,000. Mr. Dobson noted that he operates 65 facilities and
that his company has been in business for over 20 years. Mr. Best noted that he operates
15 facilities and also has been in business as a locally owned company for the past several
years.
In response to a question raised by Council Member Ujdak, it was noted that Mr. Dobson
and Mr. Best have attempted for the past year and a half to work with various city officials,
beginning with Mr. Tom Eddington and Ann Kolata. They also indicated that they had
contact Jim Coldwell as well as Council Member Coleman. In December of 1997, they
went before the redevelopment Commission and again stressed the need that they are local
businessmen interested in private development for that area.
In response to a question raised by Council Member Varner,it was noted that the proposed
development would be approximately$1.25 million dollars with real estate taxes projected
between$12,000 to$18,000 each year.
Council Member Hosinski noted that he was at the December Redevelopment Commission
meeting and believes that the proposed development would be a good one.
Mr.Hunt stated that both gentleman are good businessmen,however the site is believed to
have industrial/manufacturing as its highest and best use. He also noted that a potential
development of 40,000 square feet may be forthcoming with an offer in the next three to
four months. Mr. Hunt further noted that one of the goals for the Studebaker quarter was
to help small businesses who are already located in that area.
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Mr. Hosinski suggested that perhaps other locations for the 40,000 square foot project
could be considered.
Council Member Hosinski further suggested that he believes that both types of uses were
warranted and accommodation should take place. Mr. Hunt noted that the bottom line was
that Schafer Gear,which currently has a 105 employees is interested in expanding.
Council Member Varner stated that he does not see this situation as an either or and that
both proposals should be pursued.
Council Member Kelly suggested that this take place to see if possibilities for both
proposals could result. He stated that it should be the purpose of the Commission and the
Council to explore and look for compromise in such areas.
Citizen Member Sue Hodgson noted that she would be interested in serving as a citizen
member on other Council Committees, in addition to the Community and Economic
Development Committee.
There being no further business to come before the Committee,the meeting was adjourned
at 6:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Roland Kelly, Chairperson
Community and Economic Development Committee
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