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The January 20, 1989 meeting of the Zoning and Vacation
Committee was called to order by its Chair Person Council
Member Lee Slavinskas at 4:15 p.m. in the Council informal
meeting room.
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Persons in attendance included Council Members: Niezgodski,
Slavinskas, Luecke, Coleman, Puzzello, Duda, and Soderberg;
Kevin Butler, Howard Dukes, and Kathleen Cekanski-Farrand.
Council Member Slavinskas noted that the purpose of the
meeting was to review Bill No. 104-88 addressing the
definition of controlled uses. He noted that Council Member
Voorde had telephoned him` earlier to inform him that he
would be unable to make the committee meeting.
Council Member'.Slavinskas stated that the Bill would add a
new definition . to .the controlled uses namely "those
establishments which sell beer, wine or intoxicating liquor
for carry out. " He stated that there should be a consistent
handling of alcoholic beverages. It involves a neighborhood
issue as well as selling a "commodity" and a "controlled
item" . He believes that there are conflicting messages
. being sent. He further stated that the 1, 000 foot
restriction is reasonable and that this ordinance would not
step into the area which is controlled by the Alcoholic
Beverage Commission. He also noted that selling of such
alcoholic beverages does affect neighborhoods. He cited
South Bend Avenue as an example of how the Bill would be
implemented with the new definition being added to the other
definitions of controlled uses. He stated that he does not
see this as a question of competition but rather a
regulation of the number of outlets and strengthening the
neighborhoods. He also added that the Area Plan Commission
as well as the staff of the Area Plan Commission recommended
that the Bill be sent favorably to Council.
Council Member Puzzello noted that most of the controlled
uses are establishments where children are not allowed. She
stated that she would support the Bill if it was restricted
to liquor stores only but believes it is to inclusive by
including grocery stores and drug stores. She also voiced
concern with regard to the availability of such products in
neighborhoods for religious or medical purposes and that
such items consumed in moderation are acceptable. She also
noted that grocery stores "almost have to sell beer and wine
to make it. "
Council Member Niezgodski questioned the economics of such a
Bill. He noted that often times there are "leader items"
where there is a sale on an alcoholic item and the customer
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buys additional items when coming into the store. He also
questioned the doctrine of the legal nonconforming use and
the grandfathering issue.
Council Member Coleman noted that the Alcoholic Beverage
Commission reviews each request on a case by case basis. He
noted that he does not want to promote wide spread
availability to alcoholic beverages but does not want to
eliminate free trade in this area.
Council Member Luecke stated that if the Bill would be
consistent should not family restaurants also be addressed.
He noted that alcohol is a problem in this culture but that
he has concern for the businesses who have made the decision
to sell such intoxicating liquors. He questioned whether
the Bill accomplishes the goal sought.
Mr. Kevin Butler, an Attorney representing Walgreens and
Osco's stated that the Bill would have a definite effect on
drug stores and grocery stores. He stated that liquor
stores are "quoted out" since regulations only permit only
one per 5, 000 population and currently there are 27 or 28
such licenses issued in South Bend. Transfers of such
permits are permitted but no new licenses for carry out
liquor stores have been permitted. He stated that he
believes the overall Bill is discriminatory against such
clients as his. He further noted that Osco's and Walgreens
are typically built from scratch and have segregated liquor
areas. He stated that each store oversees the operation by
making sure that only person who are 21 years older work in
the area, that the stock rooms are locked, that records are
maintained. He stated that you will not see citations being
issued against his clients since typically violations are
against the taverns which have carry outs or the straight
liquor stores. He also noted that they have specific
procedures in effect if an ID is in question or dispute. He
also noted that if Walgreens or Osco's would have a liquor
violation that they would automatically loose their pharmacy
license.
Council Member Duda stated that she respects what Council
Member Slavinskas is trying to do especially with regard to
how close is effects her own family. She stated that,
however, that she does not want to legislate morals.
Kathleen Cekanski-Farrand, the Council Attorney, reminded
the Committee that they must review the proposed zoning bill
as to whether it is a legitimate mechanism to regulate this
type of use. She noted that the US Supreme Court had
determined that zoning regulations were appropriate when
addressing deleterious types of uses which congregate in
specific areas of the City.
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Council Member Luecke questioned where the 1, 000 foot
requirement begins. It was noted that Mr. Mathews in the
Building Department has developed specific rules and
regulations in this area.
Mr. Butler stated that further definition of the 1,000 foot
requirement would be helpful in the zoning ordinance.
Council Member Coleman stated that in weighing the many
issues raised by such a bill that overall the negative
effects outweigh the positive. He, therefore, made a motion
seconded by Council Member Puzzello that Bill No. 104-88 be
recommended unfavorably to Council. The motion passed by a
2 to 1 margin with Council Member Slavinskas in the
minority.
Council Member Puzzello stated that Ann Kolata plans to
bring a map to Monday's meeting showing where the controlled
uses are currently concentrated throughout the City.
There being no further business to come before the
Committee, the meeting was adjourned at 5:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Council Member Lee Slavinskas, Chair Person
Zoning and Vacation Committee
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