HomeMy WebLinkAboutHistoric Preservation Commission Meeting Signed Minutes - October 21, 2019MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
OF SOUTH BEND AND ST. JOSEPH COUNTY
October 2151, 2019
13" Floor Conference Room
County — City Building
South Bend, IN 46601
I. CALL TO ORDER
Commission Vice President Hertel called the meeting to order at 5:30 p.m.
Members of the Public Present:
Woodrow Bowers, 25375 Yankee Street, Edwardsburg, MI 49112
Joan Downs-Krostenko, 849 Forest Avenue, South Bend, IN 46616
Jeff McKelvey, 2119 Portage Avenue, South Bend, IN 46616
Mary McKelvey, 2119 Portage Avenue, South Bend, IN 46616
Ben Modlin, 60649 Hickory Road, South Bend, IN 46614
Carrie Modlin, 60649 Hickory Road, South Bend, IN 46614
Mark Modlin, 519 Benton St, Mishawaka, IN 46545
Daryn Pobanz, 708 Forest Avenue, South Bend, IN 46616
Kristen Pobanz, 708 Forest Avenue, South Bend, IN 46616
II. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Elizabeth Hertel, Vice President; Sarah Ponder, Secretary; Eric
Stalheim; Mary Brazinsky.
Members Not in Attendance: Michele Gelfman, President; Lesley Annis, Assistant
Secretary.
Staff Present: Elicia Feasel, Historic Preservation Administrator; Adam Toering, Historic
Preservation Specialist; Sandra Kennedy, Legal Counsel.
Staff Not in Attendance: N/A
III. PUBLIC HEARING
A. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS
Commissioner Stalheim made a motion to shift the public discussion for each discussed project to before
the closed Commission discussion. Seconded by Commissioner Brazinsky. Motion to approve the
rearrange the order of the agenda is approved.
Four in favor, none opposed.
Vote: 4 — 0. Public discussion is moved to in front of closed Commission Discussion on each project.
1. 708 Forest Avenue #2019-0923A #9574-05 Chapin Park
Local and National Register of Historic Places
Representation: Daryn Pobanz, 708 Forest Avenue, South Bend, IN 46616
Kristan Pobanz, 708 Forest Avenue, South Bend, IN 46616
STAFF REPORT
CONCERNING APPLICATION FOR A
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS
Date: October 1, 2019
Application Number: 2019-0923A
Property Location: 708 Forest Avenue
Architectural Style/Date/Architect or Builder: Queen Anne / Free Classic / 1905-1906 — "Wilhelm House", R. K. Schutt,
Architect
Property Owner: Daryn and Kristan Pobanz
Landmark or District Designation: Chapin Park Local (Ordinance #9574-05) and National Historic District
Rating: Notable
DESCRIPTION OF STRUCTURE/SITE: Two and a half story Queen Anne (irregular plan) on a rough faced concrete block
foundation. A single chimney punctuates the roof line. The exterior is wood clapboard with square shingles in the gables. The
asphalt shingle roof is cross -gabled with cornice returns and a very wide rake; frieze and moulded cornice. One -over -one
double -hung windows with moulded entabulatures throughout; third -story gable has both nine -over -one and six -over -one
double -hung windows. Two front doors lead onto the full -width front porch with grouped Doric columns and balustrades; the
moulded cornice has wood brackets at either end of the porch fascia that are spiraled.
ALTERATIONS: A garage built sometime after 1917 for this structure stood behind 435 W Lamonte Terrace; this was torn
down sometime prior to 1998. Multiple alterations to the rear of the structure have enclosed and reconfigured the rear
entrance/porches. The bases of some of the front porch columns have been replaced. A wooden front stair railing replaced
what appears to be a metal railing sometime after 1987 and before 2003. Administrative Approval #2019-0930 allowed for the
repair of the chimney flashing, roof, soffit, porch roof, and cedar shingle siding, as well as the reinstallation of gutters as
needed.
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DESCRIPTION OF PROPOSED PROJECT: Applicant seeks a Certificate of Appropriateness for changes on the structure:
1. Resizing of second story rear window (at northeast corner). The current window receives constant moisture
contact from the adjacent roof, leading to accelerated deterioration. Applicant seeks to decrease the overall size
of the window enclosure to `raise up' the window sill above the adjacent exterior roof line.
a. Window Configuration
i. The existing sashes have been retained and appear in decent / restorable condition. These
could be cut down in size to accommodate the new window size. The frame of the window
has been removed and appears to have deteriorated and would need to be reconstructed. This
new framing would require skilled carpentry work. Staff would prefer to see original
material (that is in good condition) be re -used in the future window enclosure.
ii. In lieu of using the original window sashes, staff would consider appropriate window
replacement, but no product proposal has been submitted.
b. Exterior siding:
i. New wood material would be used to replicate the existing siding.
2. The existing rear door would be replaced with a door as indicated in the imagery. New framing will be
constructed as needed.
SITE VISIT REPORT: Preservation Specialist Toering visited the site on Monday, September 30th, 2019 to discuss the
proposed project and photograph the project areas. Windows and doors described as being re -used are in good/stable condition
and would make excellent candidates for transfer to the new locations. Specialist Toering took the opportunity to give an
introduction to the construction and repair of original wood windows with the Pobanz.
STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES: CHAPIN PARK
II. EXISTING STRUCTURES
A. BUILDING MATERIALS
Original exterior building materials in the district include brick, stucco, clapboard, wood shingles, and brick or stone masonry.
In some instances, vinyl, composite and aluminum siding have been applied over the original material.
Required
Original exterior building materials shall be retained when possible. Deterioration of wood materials shall be prevented
through repair, cleaning and painting. The existing architectural detail around windows, porches, doors and eaves shall
be retained or replaced by replicas of the same design when deteriorated beyond repair.
Masonry, including brick and stucco structures, shall be maintained, and properly cleaned only when necessary to halt
deterioration or to remove stains and shall be done in a method acceptable for the preservation of the surface: i.e. low-pressure
water and soft natural bristle brushes. Brick or masonry mortar joints should be repointed only when there is evidence of
moisture problems, or when sufficient mortar is missing to allow water to stand in the mortar joint. Existing mortar shall be
duplicated in composition, color, texture, joint size, method of application and joint profile.
When repairing stucco, stucco mixture shall be used. A professional shall make a study of the old stucco, to determine the exact
mixture and underlayment used in the original work. Some repair methods are not compatible with the original techniques and
may cause early disintegration of the repair work and the original work.
Ample ventilation must be afforded the structure when siding is installed, in order to prevent increased deterioration of the
structure from moisture and insects.
Recommended
Whenever possible, the original building materials should be restored. When maintaining or repairing original siding is
not feasible, aluminum, vinyl or composite siding may be used. When used over wood surfaces, this siding should be the
same size and style as the original wood. Every effort should be made to retain the original trim around windows, doors,
cornices gables, eaves and other architectural features.
Property owners should contact the Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend and St. Joseph County prior to initiating
any restoration or rehabilitation effort. [ Address and contact information is listed in the front of the Guidebook.] The
Commission is an invaluable source of information about all facets of rehabilitation and restoration — materials, methods,
contractors and the like.
Prohibited
Wood siding shall not be resurfaced with new materials that is inappropriate or was unavailable when the building was
constructed, such as artificial stone, brick veneer, asbestos or asphalt shingles.
Sandblasting or the use of harsh detergents shall not be used on masonry including brick, stucco, limestone, flagstone and
sandstone. This method of cleaning erodes the surface material and accelerates deterioration.
Repointing shall not be done with a mortar of high Portland cement content which can often create a bond that is stronger than
the building material. Usage of Portland cement can cause deterioration as a result of the differing coefficient of expansion and
porosity of the historic masonry unit and the mortar. This most often results in serious damage to adjacent brick.
Unpainted masonry surfaces shall not be painted unless they had been painted originally. Paint shall not be removed from
masonry surfaces by any means that damage the surface.
Not Recommended
Waterproof or water repellant coatings or surface consolidation treatments should not be used on masonry surfaces unless
required to solve a specific problem that has been studied and identified. Coatings are frequently unnecessary and expensive,
and can accelerate deterioration of the masonry. Mortar joints, which do not need repointing, should not be repointed. Wood
siding should not be power -washed.
B. ROOFS AND ROOFING
Roof shapes in the district encompass all the various designs found in residential structures: hipped, gabled, gambrel, flat and
combinations of these. Roofs are covered with a variety of materials such as asphalt, asbestos, wood and slate shingles as well
as clay tiles. Residences in most cases have wood fascias with gutters and downspouts. The fascias of some vinyl- and
aluminum -sided houses are covered with the same materials.
Required
The existing shape and type of materials of the roof shall be retained. All architectural features, which give the roof its essential
character, shall be retained, including dormer windows, cupolas, cornices, brackets, chimneys, cresting and weather vanes.
Recommended
The original shape and materials of the roof should be restored. Particular effort should be made to retain materials such as slate,
tile and other unique materials not commonly found in new construction. Roof covering which is deteriorated beyond repair
should be replaced with new material that matches as closely as possible the original in composition, size, shape, color and
texture. Gutters and downspouts are often a necessary adjunct in order to prevent deterioration of the structure; they should be
maintained whenever possible or replaced with a style comparable and suitable to the architectural period.
Prohibited
Nothing shall be done to change the essential character of the roof as viewed from a street by adding architectural features or
large unsightly fixtures, or by using materials inappropriate to the style of the house. The roof shall not be stripped of
architectural features important to its character.
Not Recommended
Overhanging eaves, soffit, brackets and gables should not be covered or enclosed when adding siding to a building.
C. WINDOWS AND DOORS
Window and door frames are in most cases wood and vary depending upon the style of the home. Many are double -hung
windows with wood trim and sills. Brick structures have stone sills and brick lintels. In some cases where aluminum siding has
been applied, the window and door trim has been covered. About half of the structures in the district have aluminum storm
windows; the other half have wood storm windows.
Required
Original windows and doors shall be retained including sashes, lintels, sills, shutters, decorative glass, pediments, hoods
and hardware. When deteriorated beyond repair, they shall be replaced with units and trim resembling the original.
Recommended
Wood storm windows and doors painted or finished to match the original should be used but should not damage existing
frames. If new sashes or doors are installed, the existing or original materials, design and hardware should be used.
When metal storm doors are used, they should be painted, anodized or coated to match the existing. When awnings are
used, they should be of canvas material.
D. ENTRANCES, PORCHES AND STEPS
Most houses in the district have either an open or enclosed porch across the front. Most porches have either hip or
gabled roofs or are covered by the main roof of the house.
Required
When deteriorated beyond repair, existing or original porches, stoops, patios and steps, including handrails, balusters,
columns, brackets, tiles and roof decorations, shall be retained or replaced by replicas of the same design or by a design
more in keeping with the historic period of the structure.
Porches and additions reflecting later architectural styles and which are important to the building's historical integrity
shall be retained.
Recommended
When enclosing porches for heat conservation or for other reasons, it should be done in a manner that does not alter the
architectural or historical character of the building.
Not Recommended
Original porch details should not be replaced with materials representing a different period or style from the original.
III. NEW CONSTRUCTION
New construction includes any new building or structure built within the boundaries of the historic district, or any new
addition to an existing building. New construction should be designed considering the appearance, scale, styles and
setbacks of the other buildings in the neighborhood. New work may be contemporary or may suggest motifs from
historic buildings in the district.
A. HEIGHT AND PROPORTION
The majority of the structures in the district are two stories in height and have square or rectangular plans. There are
several houses that have L- or T- shaped or rambling ground plans. There are a few single -story cottages and one- and
one -and -a -half story bungalows. The most prevalent faVade proportions are between a 1:1 and 1:2 height to width ratio.
Required
The height of a new structure and its height to width proportions shall be consistent with adjacent buildings in the
district. The building height shall be no greater than that of the tallest existing structure and no less than that of the
lowest existing structure in the same block. Fagade proportion shall be established by permitting no structure with a
faVade wider or narrower than those existing in the same block. Additions to the existing buildings shall be related in
height and proportion to the existing structure.
Recommended
Design of new construction should be compatible in character and mood to the building or neighborhood.
Prohibited
Additions that would add new height or change the existing faVade of a building, and change its scale and architectural
character shall not be considered.
Not Recommended
New stories should not be added nor existing stories be removed which would destroy important architectural details, features
and spaces of the building. Any style or period of architecture that is incompatible with the existing should not be permitted in
the new additions.
B. BUILDING MATERIALS
Wall materials in the district range from brick, stucco and wood clapboard and shingles, to aluminum, vinyl and
fiberboard / composite siding.
Required
Exterior materials used on a new structure shall be compatible in scale, texture and color (as pertains to masonry) with
adjacent structures. Materials used on an addition to an existing structure shall related to the existing or original
materials of that structure. Also, as much of the original structure as possible shall be retained so that the addition
could be removed without damage to the basic structure and appearance of the building.
Recommended
Alternative or composite siding may be used when it is the only feasible alternative. This siding should be compatible
with the original size and style and with the materials of other buildings in the district.
Prohibited
Inappropriate materials such as asbestos, asphalt, cast stone or artificial brick shall not be used.
Not Recommended
Glass blocks should not be used. Concrete block should not be used for anything other than the foundations.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends approval of the project as submitted. Staff would like the original sashes
to be resized and reconfigured in the new smaller window opening.
Prepared by
Adam Toering
Historic Preservation Specialist
Recommendation by
Elicia Feasel
Historic Preservation Administrator
PETITIONER COMMENTS:
Mr. Pobanz stated that they believed that instead of resizing the window that they believe they could move it away from the roof
line.
Ms. Pobanz clarified that the sashes are fine, but the frame is rotted. They won't have to resize or replace the sashes.
Commissioner Hertel thanked for the applicants for buying the house, as it has a lot of potential.
Mr. Pobanz stated that they won't be able to get to finishing the window this winter, so they have installed a temporary window
covering in the interim until it can be fixed.
Commissioner Hertel clarified that the Commission's motion should include this temporary window, with a condition related to
the time frame of its replacement.
PUBLIC DISCUSSION:
N/A
COMM ISSIONER DISCUSSION:
Commissioner Hertel stated it is very obvious that this is a bad window. Commissioner Hertel then asked if they had considered
installing a downspout from the to -be -installed gutter to draw water away from the sill of the window.
Ms. Pobanz explained that part of the problem is that the gutter above had failed and needed to be replaced, that it should help to
draw the water away from window.
Commissioner Stalheim stated he would support the resizing the window to allow for better flashing.
Ms. Pobanz stated that moving the window will allow for additional flashing height, that they would be moving the window
18". That the siding would be replaced with new wood cedar siding.
Commissioner Hertel asked for more information about the door being installed at the rear.
Ms. Pobanz stated that it is an interior door, that they hoped to install a storm door on the outside. The new door would be taller
than the existing door by approximately a foot. The light would be moved above the door to accommodate this newer
size.
REOPENED PUBLIC DISCUSSION:
Dr. Joan Downs-Krostenko, 849 Forest Avenue: The door is very beautiful interior door, it is very weird to put an interior door
on the outside of the house. You would have never seen a door of that format on the exterior of the house. I think it is
going to look funny. I think it is a beautiful door, and I can see why you would like to have a door with plenty of
glass in it; but the exterior door for the back of the house should not be that door.
Commissioner Ponder made a motion to approve the 1) resizing or moving the second
story rear window, 2) temporary window installation for the duration of the
Certificate's approval, 3) replacement of wood siding with new cedar siding as
needed, and 4) replacement of the rear door with the supplied wood door with
the storm door remanded to staff. Seconded by Commissioner Stalheim.
Four in favor, none opposed.
Vote: 4 — 0. Motion to remand COA #2019-0923A to staff is passed.
2. 60649 Hickory Road #2019-1007A #127-78 Local
Landmark
Representation: Ben Modlin, 60649 Hickory Road, South Bend, IN 46614
Carrie Modlin, 60649 Hickory Road, South Bend, IN 46614
STAFF REPORT
CONCERNING APPLICATION FOR A
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS
Date: October 8, 2019
Application Number: 2019-1007A
Property Location: 60649 Hickory Road
Architectural Style/Date/Architect or Builder: Gabled-Ell/Stick / 1869 / "Gerry Battles Farm"
Property Owner: Ben and Carrie Modlin
Landmark or District Designation: Historic Landmark (Ordinance #127-78)
Rating: Notable
DESCRIPTION OF STRUCTURE/SITE: 2-1/2 story Gabled-Ell/Stick style on a rough dressed stone foundation. Roof is
cross plan with gable front and jerkin head side gable. Front porch has a single turned post, rear porch is slightly projecting with
turned posts and a concrete stoop. The walls are original wood weatherboard shiplap siding with corner boards. Front windows
have a wood, raised head with labels where other windows have plain labels. There is a two-story bay window with scrolled
brackets. The side bay has a jerkin head roof with art nouveau scrolled decorations on the fascia. Front gable end has an ornate
scrollwork decorative fascia, with pendants. There are two front doors with transoms, one with a full light.
ALTERATIONS: The St. Joseph County ordinance in 1978 designating and establishing the Historic Landmark originally
included 80 acres. The parcel has since been subdivided and was annexed to the City of South Bend in 1989. While the farm
mostly retains the plan of its original buildings, changes to the property without COA are evidenced on aerial maps including
the removal of a silo, removal of a small outbuilding to the southwest corner, and removal/modem replacement of the upper
portion of the bank barn, retaining the foundation.
COA 1988-0512 approved tear off roofing, redeck with plywood; apply new shingles with fiberglass Owens -Coming 3 -in -1
type. COA 2011-0310 approved tear off and re -roof with 3 &1 shingle and new decking -felt paper ice shield.
Windows are noted on the 1999 survey card as mostly 2/2 light but have since been replaced with 1/1 vinyl double hung (no
COA on record) as evidenced in photos dating back to 2011.
Current owners have removed the original wood weatherboard shiplap siding on the south and west sides, installing new
artificial siding without COA.
APPLICATION ITEMS: "Remoi-it/ gfdecayed existing siding, animal fie(es, hat hahitat exclusion. beehives. mold.
waterlogged and damaged material, removal of wet cellulose insulation from within the wall cavity. Installation of new
fiberglass batt insulation, new exterior grade sheathing, Tyvek house wrap, newflashings, new Celect Cellular Composite PVC
Wood simulated siding and architectural trim material. Construction methods to follow the manufacturer's written
specifications. Please see supporting documentation. "
See additional written description of project.
DESCRIPTION OF PROPOSED PROJECT: Applicant seeks a retroactive Certificate of Appropriateness for changes on
the structure:
3. Remove original wood weatherboard shiplap siding on house,
a. Completed on south and west sides
4. Install Celect Cellular Composite PVC Wood simulated siding and architectural trim material
a. Completed on south and west sides
Prior to the current owners, the property had a long history of deferred maintenance and vacancy, including a 2009 staff memo
in the file noting the siding as "rotting". In 2012, Commission staff met with new owner Ben Modlin to go over the scope of
work, including "exterior routine maintenance and repair", although no Certificate of Appropriateness applications are on file.
In May 2017, Commission staff mailed a Minimum Maintenance Standards letter to the Modlin's, commending their efforts to
maintain and preserve the historic character of the property that included a reminder that any project that affects the exterior of
the building, site, outbuildings, grounds, or landscaping will require review, and a completed COA application, with a reference
to the Standards.
The siding replacement without COA or Building Permit was discovered by Historic Preservation staff during St Joseph County
Historic Landmark site visits on 8/27/19 and reported to the Building Department. The Building Department posted a cease and
desist on 8/30/19, followed by a Violation letter 9/18/19.
The original wood weatherboard shiplap siding, corner boards, and wood, raised head labels at windows are important in
defining the overall historic character of the building. As evidenced by the owner's description and supporting photographs, the
original siding demonstrates an advanced state of deterioration and has become permeable to water. Furthermore, the
discoveries made inside the wall cavities provides reasonable cause for removing the original siding to remediate the materials
in the wall cavities. While the original siding may have the ability to be repaired and made impermeable, it likely will not
withstand removal to clean the wall cavities and reinstallation. Staff accepts that the original siding is deteriorated beyond
repair.
Group B Standards discourage the covering or alteration of original materials with additional siding. If the historic material
cannot be repaired because of the extent of deterioration or damage, the preferred treatment is replacement in kind with the
same material, wood shiplap in this case. Because this approach is not always feasible, provisions are made in Group B
Standards to consider the use of a substitute material if it is of the same material as the original, in the same size and texture.
The Standard does provide for an alternative material if it duplicates the original, however, the proposed PVC wood simulated
siding is not of the same material as the original, is not in the same size (width of the clapboards is scaled up without a shiplap
edge) or texture (embossed wood graining, intended to simulate the texture of wood, is not characteristic of real wood siding
and is visually inappropriate). The proposed PVC product is not a familiar replacement product; this may in fact be the first
application before this Commission. There is precedent for engineered wood products such as HardiePlank and LP SmartSide,
as well as traditional vinyl siding, all having a shiplap style option.
Applicants have submitted comparison quotes for Celect, cedar siding, vinyl siding, original siding repair, and another for new
wood. Below is a summary of the costs for the materials and for painting (where applicable).
Celect PVC siding cedar siding
vinyl siding – Big C repair original siding
– Kimmel
tongue & groove
siding - Mastercraft
$11,230 $60,970
$2,796.55 $23,000
$16,170
Staff has requested more detail about the plan to repair/replace the trim around the windows and at the roof gable to "closely
match the original' – specifically which architectural details and what the material will be.
The National Park Service Preservation Brief #8 Aluminum and Vinyl Siding on Historic Buildings: The Appropriateness of
Substitute Materials for Resurfacing Historic Wood Frame Buildings was consulted for this staff report.
SITE VISIT REPORT: N/A
STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES: Group B
The Commission has the authority to determine the architectural merits and the extent of any proposed treatment,
renovation, or addition to a historic landmark. The commission will require drawings, plans, specifications, and/or
samples where appropriate.
A. Maintenance
The maintenance of any historical structure or site shall in no way involve any direct physical change except for the
general cleaning and upkeep of the landmark. The Commission shall encourage the proper maintenance of all structure
or sites.
B. Treatment
Treatment shall be defined as any change of surface materials that will not alter the style or original form. Such
improvements include re -roofing, glazing, or landscaping lawns and may involve a change that can potentially enhance
or detract from the character of the landmark. A treatment change of any surface whether on the landmark or in its
environment may require a Certificate of Appropriateness if it significantly alters the appearance of the landmark.
Although these kinds of changes may not require a Building Permit, a Certificate of Appropriateness may be necessary.
The commission should review the proposed treatment for character and style consistency with the original surfaces.
C. Renovation and Additions
Renovation is the modification of a structure, which does not alter the general massing while an addition, is a change in mass.
A modification, which involves the removal of a part of the landmark, should be considered under demolition (see demolition).
Additions to landmarks should not detract from the original form and unity of the landmark and should not cover singular
examples of architectural detail. Additions to landmarks should be added in a manner that does not disrupt the visible unity of
overall appearance of the site. The proportions, materials and ratios of the existing structures should be carried through in the
additions. Care should be taken not to change or alter the following:
1. Structure—Necessary structural improvements, where safety demands should be accomplished in such a way as to
cause minimal visual change to the original style and construction.
2. Material—Additions and improvements involving any new material in the landmark should be of the same
material as the original. It should be the same size and texture. An alternative material may be allowed if it
duplicates the original.
a. wood—all wood trim should conform with existing trim in shape and size.
b. siding materials—the Commission discourages the covering or alteration of original materials with
additional siding. Structures already sided with incompatible materials should be returned to a siding
similar to the original when renovation is considered.
D. Demolition
Historic landmarks shall not be demolished. When a landmark poses a threat to the public safety, and demolition is the only
alternative, documentation by way of photographs, measured drawings, or other descriptive methods should be made of both the
exterior and interior of the landmark. The person or agency responsible for demolition of the landmark shall be responsible for
this documentation.
E. Moving
The moving of landmarks is discouraged, however, moving is preferred to demolition. When moving is necessary, the owner of
the landmark must apply to the Commission for a Certificate of Appropriateness.
F. Signs
No neon or flashing signs will be permitted unless they are original to the structure. Billboards and super -graphics will also be
disallowed. Only one appropriate identifying sign will be permitted per business.
G. Building Site and Landscapina
(These standards apply to both A and B)
1. Required
Major landscaping items, trees, fencing, walkways, private yard lights, signs (house numbers) and benches which
reflect the property's history and development shall be retained. Dominant land contours shall be retained. Structures
such as: gazebos, patio decks, fixed barbecue pits, swimming pools, tennis courts, green houses, new walls, fountains,
fixed garden furniture, trellises, and other similar structures shall be compatible to the historic character of the site and
neighborhood and inconspicuous when viewed from a public way.
2. Recommended
New site work should be based upon actual knowledge of the past appearance of the property found in photographs,
drawings, and newspapers. Plant materials and trees in close proximity to the building that are causing deterioration
to the buildings historic fabric should be removed. However, trees and plant materials that must be removed should
be immediately replaced by suitable flora. Front yard areas should not be fenced except in cases where historic
documentation would indicate such fencing appropriate. Fencing should be in character with the buildings style,
materials, and scale.
3. Prohibited
No changes may be made to the appearance of the site by removing major landscaping items, trees, fencing,
walkways, outbuildings, and other elements before evaluating their importance to the property's history and
development. Front yard areas shall not be transformed into parking lots nor paved nor blacktopped. The installation
of unsightly devices such as TV reception dishes and solar collectors shall not be permitted in areas where they can be
viewed from public thoroughfares.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends allowing for the replacement of original siding. Staff does not recommend
the proposed replacement siding because it does not conform to Group B Standards with additional consideration for the
Notable rating of the property. Staff recommends a replacement siding that more closely resembles the original in style, size,
and texture, preferably wood shiplap. Staff recommends that all trim around the windows, the roof gable, and the brackets
replicate the original.
Prepared by
Elicia Feasel
Historic Preservation Administrator
and
Adam Toering
Historic Preservation Specialist
PETITIONER COMMENTS:
Mr. Modlin stated that the costs as summarized in the staff report were incorrect. The cedar siding was $40,000 for $70,000
plus, and that more detailed information was requested. Mr. Modlin estimated that it would cost $17,500 to paint.
Mr. Modlin had Danny Kimmel estimated that it would cost $23,000 to paint the cedar siding. From the tongue -and -
groove estimate was for labor and installation, and that was a $43,000 estimation from Mastercraft construction. Total
for wood siding would be $117,000 or so.
Commissioner Hertel asked for clarification, as she believed that Mr. Modlin had been doing the installation.
Mr. Modlin confirmed, yes, that they were asked to give more of an estimate if they were to hire the project out. Mr. Modlin
estimated that it would take 350 man hours to paint, at a value of approximately $17,500; Danny Kimmel estimated it
would cost $23,000 to paint. To install the siding, Mr. Modlin estimated $40,000, Mastercraft estimated $43,000.
The painting estimate did not include tax.
Commissioner Stalheim asked if the vapor barrier was included in the cost.
Mr. Modlin confirmed that vapor barrier was included, but it does not include the mesh underlayment layer. The reason wood
was included was to show the massive cost difference. Just the wood alone is a financial hardship. They cannot
afford the wood, they cannot afford to have it installed, they cannot afford to have it painted.
Commissioner Hertel asked if Mr. Modlin is updating his application.
Legal Counsel Kennedy clarified that they were not updating the application, they were clarifying that there were three cost
estimate options and not five.
Commissioner Hertel clarified that the three options are 1) select PVC siding at $11,230, 2) the Cedar siding at $40,470 plus
painting and labor, and 3) vinyl siding.
Administrator Feasel clarified her interpretation of the Kimmel quote (which read "scrape and paint") as having been to
rehabilitate the original siding, it was clarified that this was to paint all of the new material to be installed and the old
trim and eave details material.
PUBLIC DISCUSSION:
Mr. Mark Modlin, 519 Benton Street, Mishawaka — the father of the applicant. Mr. Modlin spoke of how the project "was
going to be a big undertaking, and that they were able to get the house but they were probably the last best hope for
the house. The house was vacant and in ruin for a long time. It had a lot of ongoing deterioration, but I think he made
a pretty good purchase with a good effort to make it a home. And I think in making it a home, they are heading in the
right direct. The costs for replication of a lot of the products are prohibitive, a homeowner who is just getting started.
It is a beautiful home, and I think it could be a very long term home for these kids."
Joan Downs-Krostenko, 849 Forest Avenue — "I have restored nine houses, and have put lots of new wood siding where original
wood siding was damaged or had been rotted out, so I'm familiar with that. And I've painted all of these houses, so I
am familiar with that. My question with this is — is every piece of siding on that house rotten? Is your bid to take it
all off and replace it? Every bit of wood on the house is rotten?
Mr. Modlin stated every bit of siding is rotten.
Ms. Downs-Krostenko stated: "So every bit of siding is rotten. [Specialist Toering], is that accurate?"
Commissioner Hertel stated that there were two areas that have already been replaced.
Administrator Feasel stated that staff has not conducted a site visit to determine the condition of the structure.
Ms. Downs-Krostenko stated that she had never seen a house where all of the wood was rotten. In most cases, you need to
replace 10-15% of the wood. This could be the exception, but mostly you do not see that all of the wood needs to be
replaced. In her experience, she has never heard of any case where all of the wood is fully rotten. Finally, the holy
grail of historic preservation is to avoid vinyl siding, plastic siding, metal siding, all the kinds of replacement siding
that do not replicate the material, texture, reveal of the original siding, and often times ruin the trim. That is the entire
point of what we do here, and I do appreciate the cost of what you are doing here, because I have confronted it exactly
like you have. Many, many times. I have always been able to salvage most of that original wood. Scraping, priming,
all of that is expensive, but I have found ways to do that inexpensively, in pieces where I can afford to do it, a little bit
at a time.
Mr. Modlin stated that there were significant amounts of bat feces.
Mr. Modlin, Sr. stated that there was also rot, and mice feces. It's a health hazard.
Ms. Downs-Krostenko reiterated that the agenda of historic preservation is to replace with in kind materials, and that can be
done over time. When you do open the door for alternative materials, then you might have a really big project that has
all of these problems, but then the next project comes in and its smaller, and the applicant says "but you let these
people do it, you let them put up vinyl." Then we are in a real big giant pile of bad stuff.
COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION:
Commissioner Hertel stated that, if this this was a new project, the `things underneath', we would not know. In those other
projects, as those things are revealed, they would be addressed. So the bees, the cellulose insulation would be
addressed as it is found to make the home habitable.
Commissioner Stalheim stated that Commission would support that action.
Commissioner Hertel explained that the applicant has lived in the house for multiple years, that they have known the COA
process (as noted in the letter that is included in your packet dated 2017). That the applicant received glowing
statements regarding the preservation of the structure at that time, "we are thrilled to see the condition of your home
and commend your efforts to preserve your historic property."
Commissioner Ponder asked about the alternative materials that had been mentioned.
Administrator Feasel explained that staff included those materials as they had been previously approved by the Commission,
that it was unknown what those materials would cost, and that staff would prefer an in-kind replacement with wood
ship -lap siding.
Commissioner Stalheim stated they may be offered, but they be more expensive because this is an atypical mill pattern.
Administrator Feasel stated that she had interpreted the Kimmel quote as a quote for rehabilitation of the existing siding, and
that Staff has not seen the material, nor has an estimate has been received. The house is more than likely balloon -
frame construction, so an expert may know of a way to open up the walls to remove the insulation material.
Commissioner Brazinksy stated that she had owned a similar house in Wisconsin and that they removed the bottom boards and
removed the insulation. She then stripped and painted the siding. The house was not a (designated) historic home.
Administrator Feasel stated that were this a proactive application, that would have been the first thing that Staff would have
suggested to the applicant, what is the cost of doing that. Because this project is partially retroactive, it's taken us a
bit off guard. Were it proactive, that's how we would have addressed this project. I think that's missing from this
project application.
Mr. Modlin stated that there is no vapor barrier, and that they'd have to remove it all. That doing all wood is prohibitively
expensive.
Commissioner Hertel explained her opposition to PVC and vinyl siding and expressed that it is a responsibility to uphold the
historic integrity of these homes, especially ones like this one, which were here long before much of anything else in
the area.
Commissioner Stalheim inquired as to what the plan was as to the decorative elements on the roof and over the windows.
Mr. Modlin stated that he is in the process of repairing those, and that some have gone missing, and he's going to have to re -mill
them as close as possible, with marine grade plywood, CNC'd out.
Commissioner Stalheim asked if all would be replaced.
Ms. Modlin stated that that would depend on the condition of the remaining pieces and indicated in the imagery on the projector
that some of the pieces are hanging dangerously off the house.
Mr. Modlin stated that he thought the new material looks good from the street.
Commissioner Hertel expressed that she believes you can tell the difference between PVC, vinyl, and wood. She further stated
that she agreed with Dr. Downs-Krostenko that it seems impossible that all the siding is bad, and that the replacement
material should have the proper look. That there is evidence of long-term neglect. That she is hesitant to make a
quick judgement. That she would like to see a better estimate as to the current siding condition. That replacing some
of the material would be cheaper than replacing all of the material.
Commissioner Brazinsky asked how long of a continuance would be needed to get an estimate.
Administrator Feasel stated that it would be on the applicant to talk with restoration experts to determine the cost and time of
that kind of project. That staffs role at this point would be negligible, as we have already determined the siding to be
deteriorated beyond repair.
Commissioner Brazinsky reiterated that the siding looked identical to what she had in Wisconsin, that had insects and bees
nests. Commissioner Brazinsky stated that she was between outright denial and continuing for more information.
Commissioner Hertel explained that the Commission could deny the application as it currently exists, which would require the
applicant to reaWly for the exterior changes again. The Commission could offer a continuance where you could get
additional information that the Commission is requesting and come back at the next meeting with that information
(without paying additional application fees). Commissioner Hertel asked the applicant what they would like to do.
Mr. Modlin asked if they could discuss the options.
Commissioner Hertel stated that the meeting could not be postponed.
Mr. Modlin asked what they should do in the interim regarding the health concerns related to the condition of the house.
Commissioner Hertel stated that they should get with their contractor immediately, but that these conditions don't appear to be
new problems. As homeowners they should be combatting any mold or other biological concerns with the appropriate
bleach mixture.
Mr. Modlin stated that they've tried and that they are this point, and that they believe the house exterior is beyond repair. When
they were sitting in the basement when the tornado came through and they saw bat feces raining down from the wall
because the rain was coming in, it was actionable. The only way that was feasible was to take the old off and put the
new on.
Commissioner Hertel reiterated that they are still at the same point as five minutes ago: the Commission can deny the
application, or give a continuance to find additional information.
Mr. Modlin Sr. interjected that you have to have the money to be able to do the work.
Mr. Modlin asked clarified that the options are continuation or denial.
Commissioner Hertel explained that the Commission's feelings are apparent, and that the Commission wants to empower you to
make the house better.
Ms. Modlin asked what the time frame of the continuation would be.
Legal Counsel Kennedy explained that the next meeting would within the time frame of the current application.
Commissioner Stalheim expressed concerns regarding the weather.
Administrator Feasel expressed that any additional information would need to be received by the COA deadline date.
Mr. Modlin asked what the status of the Red Tag from the Building Department would be.
Administrator Feasel explained that Staff would contact the Building Department to inform them that the project was still under
review and more information would be available in late November.
Commissioner Ponder made a motion to continue COA#2019-1007A and request the
applicant get additional information about restoration of the exterior siding (with
information about the amount of salvageable material), with the date of
November 12`h for more information. Seconded by Commissioner Brazinsky.
Four in favor, none opposed.
Vote: 4 — 0. Motion to continue COA #2019-1007A is passed.
3. 2119 Portage Avenue #2019-1011A #7020-82 Local
Landmark
Representation: Woodrow Bowers, 25375 Yankee Street, Edwardsburg, MI
49112
Jeff McKelvey, 2119 Portage Avenue, South Bend, IN 46616
Mary McKelvey, 2119 Portage Avenue, South Bend, IN 46616
STAFF REPORT
CONCERNING APPLICATION FOR A
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS
Date: October 17, 2019
Application Number: 2019-1011A
Property Location: 2119 Portage Avenue
Architectural Style/Date/Architect or Builder: Greek Revival / 1865 — "Isaac Marble House"
Property Owner: Jeff and Mary McKelvey
Landmark or District Designation: Local Landmark, Ordinance #7020-82
Rating: Outstanding
DESCRIPTION OF STRUCTURE/SITE: Two story Greek Revival (with ancillary one story wings) on brick foundation.
Two chimneys and a later heater exhaust punctuate the roof line. Exterior is brick with a stretcher bond, stone sills and lintels.
The roof is a shallow gable with short eave overhang and large frieze. The soffit was enclosed prior to landmarking. Two
wings were added flanking the original structure, later windows were installed in those additions. Windows are double -hung 6 -
over -6 on the second story and double -hung 6 -over -9 on the first story. Some fixed windows are found in the original structure.
Casements exist in the later additions. A front porch spans the original structure, a side entrance has a stepped stoop.
ALTERATIONS: Two wing additions were added sometime in the 20" century (sometime after 1946?). COA #1986-0903
allowed for the construction of an addition to the west side of the garage, as well as reroofing of the south addition. COA
#1986-1008 allowed for re -roofing and aluminum soffits on the south wing addition. A `cabana' was constructed attached to
the garage without COA in 1987. COA #1987-0807 allowed for the construction of the front porch. COA #1990-0606 allowed
for reconstruction of the deteriorated chimney with new bricks. COA #1997-0829 allowed for masonry repairs to the main
chimney. COA #1996-0912 allowed for additional repairs and modifications to the masonry of the main chimney. COA
#2001-0417 allowed for the repair/replacement-in-kind of the split -rail fence on the property, landscaping, tree trimming. COA
#2003-0929 allowed for the removal and replacement of exterior storm doors and entrance doors. COA #2006-0329-1 allowed
for the re -roofing of portions of the garage, as well as repair of the damages to the main roof. COA #2006-0720A allowed for
the re -roof of the main structure and garage with Tamko Heritage 30 -year shingles, as well as the replacement of the static air
vents.
APPLICATION ITEMS: "Overlay metal on shingles, remove stove vent. (Standing -seam horizontal roof by Central States
Manufacturing, Inc.)"
DESCRIPTION OF PROPOSED PROJECT: Applicant seeks a Certificate of Appropriateness for changes on the structure:
1. Installation of a Horizon -Lock (produced by Central States Manufacturing, Inc.) standing seam, textured painted
steel roof over the existing asphalt shingles,
a. Panels are 16", fabricated in varying lengths to accommodate different roof sections.
b. 13" ridge cap (painted)
2. Remove the stove vent on the southern wing addition.
The proposed material is a departure from the existing material. Metal was a common roofing material in the 19" century,
although no record of it being used on this structure can be found. The 1932 Assessor Card Indicates that wood shingles were in
use in the early part of the 20" century (this is indicated by `W.SH' on the assessor card). Standing scam metal roofs enjoy a
long lifespan, if installed properly (by comparison, the current shingles are believed to be thirteen years old).
Staff expresses one point of concern: if the new material is laid on top of the existing shingles, the flashing of the new metal
roof will come into conflict with the existing stone window sills, specifically at the front porch and at the rear second story
window (where the window air conditioning unit is located in the supplied photographs). The front porch design (when
originally submitted in 1987) was modified to ensure the second floor window sills would not be impacted by the roof line.
SITE VISIT REPORT: N/A
STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES: Local Landmark "Group B"
The Commission has the authority to determine the architectural merits and the extent of any proposed treatment, renovation, or
addition to a historic landmark. The commission will require drawings, plans, specifications, and/or samples where appropriate.
A. Maintenance
The maintenance of any historical structure or site shall in no way involve any direct physical change except for the
general cleaning and upkeep of the landmark. The Commission shall encourage the proper maintenance of all
structure or sites.
B. Treatment
Treatment shall be defined as any change of surface materials that will not alter the style or original form.
Such improvements include re -roofing, glazing, or landscaping lawns and may involve a change that can
potentially enhance or detract from the character of the landmark. A treatment change of any surface
whether on the landmark or in its environment may require a Certificate of Appropriateness if it significantly
alters the appearance of the landmark. Although these kinds of changes may not require a Building Permit, a
Certificate of Appropriateness may be necessary. The commission should review the proposed treatment for
character and style consistency with the original surfaces.
C. Renovation and Additions
Renovation is the modification of a structure, which does not alter the general massing while an addition, is a
change in mass. A modification, which involves the removal of a part of the landmark, should be considered under
demolition (see demolition).
Additions to landmarks should not detract from the original form and unity of the landmark and should not cover
singular examples of architectural detail. Additions to landmarks should be added in a manner that does not disrupt
the visible unity of overall appearance of the site. The proportions, materials and ratios of the existing structures
should be carried through in the additions. Care should be taken not to change or alter the following:
I. Structure—Necessary structural improvements, where safety demands should he accomplished in such a
way as to cause minimal visual change to the original style and construction.
2. Material—Additions and improvements involving any new material in the landmark should be of
the same material as the original. It should be the same size and texture. An alternative material may be
allowed if it duplicates the original.
a. wood—all wood trim should conform with existing trim in shape and size.
b. siding materials—the Commission discourages the covering or alteration of original materials
with additional siding. Structures already sided with incompatible materials should be returned to
a siding similar to the original when renovation is considered.
D. Demolition
Historic landmarks shall not be demolished. When a landmark poses a threat to the public safety, and demolition is
the only alternative, documentation by way of photographs, measured drawings, or other descriptive methods should
be made of both the exterior and interior of the landmark. The person or agency responsible for demolition of the
landmark shall be responsible for this documentation.
E. Moving
The moving of landmarks is discouraged, however, moving is preferred to demolition. When moving is
necessary, the owner of the landmark must apply to the Commission for a Certificate of Appropriateness.
F. Signs
No neon or flashing signs will be permitted unless they are original to the structure. Billboards and super -graphics
will also be disallowed. Only one appropriate identifying sign will be permitted per business.
G. Building Site and Landscaping (These standards apply to both A and B)
1. Required
Major landscaping items, trees, fencing, walkways, private yard lights, signs (house numbers) and benches which
reflect the property's history and development shall be retained. Dominant land contours shall be retained. Structures
such as: gazebos, patio decks, fixed barbecue pits, swimming pools, tennis courts, green houses, new walls, fountains,
fixed garden furniture, trellises, and other similar structures shall be compatible to the historic character of the site and
neighborhood and inconspicuous when viewed from a public way.
2. Recommended
New site work should be based upon actual knowledge of the past appearance of the property found in photographs,
drawings, and newspapers. Plant materials and trees in close proximity to the building that are causing deterioration
to the buildings historic fabric should be removed. However, trees and plant materials that must be removed should
be immediately replaced by suitable flora. Front yard areas should not be fenced except in cases where historic
documentation would indicate such fencing appropriate. Fencing should be in character with the buildings style,
materials, and scale.
3. Prohibited
No changes may be made to the appearance of the site by removing major landscaping items, trees, fencing,
walkways, outbuildings, and other elements before evaluating their importance to the property's history and
development. Front yard areas shall not be transformed into parking lots nor paved nor blacktopped. The installation
of unsightly devices such as TV reception dishes and solar collectors shall not be permitted in areas where they can be
viewed from public thoroughfares.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends approval of the project as submitted, with the expressed concern that the
stone window sill should not be adversely impacted by the addition of the metal roof material.
Prepared by
Adam Toering
Historic Preservation Specialist
Recommendation by
Elicia Feasel
Historic Preservation Administrator
PETITIONER COMMENTS:
Mr. Bowers explained that the window sill in the back is already blocked by the existing roof line, and that in the front the new
roof may impact the sills at the seam locations.. He then supplied additional pictures regarding the proposed
installation of the roof material. He further explained previous examples that he had installed that were similar to this
project.
Ms. McKelvey stated that she wanted to bring it back to a historic condition, and that she didn't paint it.
PUBLIC DISCUSSION:
Ms. Downs-Krostenko stated that standing -seam metal roofs were not installed in this area north of the Ohio River valley. Does
the Commission have any discussion or concerns of color as to metal roofs? She expressed concern that color should
be looked into by the Commission going forward.
Mr. Bowers responded that he had seen tins roofs installed.
COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION:
Commissioner Stalheim stated that fortunately they want a dark colored roof.
Commissioner Hertel stated that there is concern about color going forward. Commissioner Hertel also expressed concern
regarding the front windows.
Commissioner Stalheim asked how the flashing is installed into and beneath the windows.
Mr. Bowers expressed that they would not adversely impact the windows.
Commissioner Hertel expressed that the Commission wants the homeowner to have a long-term roof solution, so is protective
on behalf of the applicant. Commissioner Hertel expressed concern regarding moisture infiltration into the existing
shingles that could cause other problems.
Mr. Bowers explained the various layers that are installed beneath the roof material to both protect the roof material, as well as
to create moisture barrier, where it runs the moisture out. Mr. Bowers further discussed historic barn structures that
have metal roofs that have lasted one hundred years.
Commissioner Stalheim confirmed that laying metal roof over existing shingles is common.
Mr. Bowers expressed that these advances have helped measurably.
Commissioner Stalheim asked about the widths of the panels themselves.
Mr. Bowers explained that the residential width is 16". Commercial widths are 18".
Commissioner Ponder asked about the gutters and soffits.
Mr. Bowers explained that no change would be made to the gutters or soffits.
Commissioner Stalheim mentioned the removal of the stovepipe.
Mr. McKelvey joked that he would not be cutting wood.
Commissioner Ponder made a motion to approve COA#2019-1011A. Seconded by
Conunissioner Brazinsky.
Four in favor, none opposed.
Vote: 4 — 0. Motion to continue COA #2019-1011A is passed.
Commissioner Hertel explained that she hoped that the property owners feel comfortable contacting the Staff if they have any
questions regarding their historic property.
Administrator Feasel stated that Staff may have information about efficient ways of removing paint from the exterior brick.
Commissioner Hertel explained that when the homeowners are ready for that, Staff is ready and willing to help.
IV. PRIVII,IGE OF THE FLOOR
V. REGULAR BUSINESS
A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
i. Commissioner Stalheim made a motion to approve the August meeting
minutes as circulated. Seconded by Commissioner Ponder.
Five in favor, none opposed.
Vote: 4 — 0. Motion to approve the minutes passes.
B. STAFF REPORTS
i. Administrative Approvals
1. Cominissioner Hertel stated thanks and admiration to the staff for taking
care of the administrative approvals.
2. Administrator Feasel expressed that Staff is uploading the
Administrative Approvals as they are created.
C. COMMITTE REPORTS
i. Disposition of Historic Preservation Assets
1. N/A
ii. Standards Update
1. Administrator Feasel stated that Indiana Landmarks has secured funding
for the creation of a model standard for their commissions, statewide.
2. Indiana Landmarks has invited Commissioner Stalheim to apply for the
paid standards update position.
Legal Counsel Kennedy expressed concern that quorum is necessary at the November meeting regarding
the Hickory Farmhouse project.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
VII. NEW BUSINESS
VIII. ANNOUNCEMENTS AND MISCELLANEOUS MATTERS
A. Common Council Appointees
1. Administrator Feasel explained that former Inspector Szaday was denied regarding
the vacant Common Council HPC positions. The response indicated that other
applicants were received, and the vacancies had been filled.
2. Commissioner Hertel requested that Staff contact the Common Council regarding
potential appointees.
B. Architectural Historian
1. Administrator Feasel explained filling the position, and the process, and that former
Inspector Szaday could be considered for that position.
2. Commissioner Hertel expressed her interest in seeing Dr. Joan Downs-Krostenko as
a potential applicant regarding the Architectural Historian position.
3. Commissioner Stalheim expressed concern that we should be selective as opposed
to be hasty with filling that position.
C. Commissioner Ponder expressed concern regarding the residence at the NW corner of
Eddy and Jefferson, 1031 E Jefferson.
1. Specialist Toering explained that all work is happening on site and is seemingly
done to the highest standards.
2. Commissioner Hertel requested that we contact the property owner to attain a valid
Certificate of Appropriateness.
D. Commissioner Ponder asked about the circumstances of the Pierre Navarre Cabin
1. Specialist Toering explained that Staff has written The History Museum regarding
the moving the structure, and no response has been received.
2. Commissioner Hertel expressed interest of the Historic Preservation Commission in
making a formal position statement.
3. Administrator Feasel stated that the Commission's official position would be an
eventual approval or denial of an application.
4. Specialist Toering expressed that the financial implications of losing the National
Register designation that being in Leeper Park affords the cabin.
E. Commissioner Hertel asked about the Leeper Park swimming area excavation.
1. Administrator Feasel expressed that no additional information has been received.
2. Legal Counsel Kennedy expressed that Venues, Parks & Arts — and other city
entities — should draft contracts that stipulate that construction should stop in the
event of archaeological sites are unearthed.
3. Commissioner Hertel expressed interest in seeing something formal by the end of
the year.
F. Commissioner Ponder asked about 720 Lincoln Way East
1. No update from Staff, no additional work has been seen.
G. Commissioner Ponder asked about the United Auto Workers Building, 740 S Michigan
Street
1. Commissioner Ponder expressed concern for the building, considering the demise of
the Fat Daddy's Block.
2. Specialist Toering expressed concern for that entire area.
Administrator Feasel left the proceedings at 6:55pm.
3. Legal Counsel Kennedy disclosed that the Department of Community Investment
and the City of South Bend has purchased property in that area.
H. Commissioner Ponder asked about the Monarch Printing Building, 516-518 South
Michigan
1. Specialist Toering disclosed that the Monarch Printing Building is a Local
Landmark and had been for sale recently for $39,000. No activity has been seen at
this time.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Ponder made a motion to adjourn. Seconded by Commissioner Brazinsky..
Four in favor, none opposed.
Vote: 4 — 0. Meeting adjourned at 7:06 pm.
Attest:
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Sarah Ponder, Secretary Date