HomeMy WebLinkAboutDecember 2007AGENDA OF THE DECEMBER 179 2007
COMMISSION MEETING
Regular Meeting THIRTEETH FLOOR- ROOM 1308
County -City Building
MONDAY, DECEMBER 17, 2007 7:OOPM
I. CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL
II. PUBLIC HEARING
A. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS
1. 1344 E. Wayne Street South COA 2007-1120A
2. 710 Park Avenue COA#2007-1107
B. LANDMARK
C. NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION_
III. REGULAR BUSINESS
A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
November 19, 2007
B. TREASURER'S REPORT
Location Report
C. STAFF REPORTS
1.
Correspondence
2.
C of A Approvals
3.
Directors Report
4.
Assistant Director Report
5.
Legal Counsel
D. COMMITTEE REPORTS:
1.
President's Report
2.
Landmarks
3.
Nominating Committee
IV. OLD BUSINESS
V. NEW BUSINESS
VI. HEARING OF VISITORS AND ADJOURNMENT
STAFF REPORT
CONCERNING APPLICATION FOR A
CERTIFICATE .OF APPROPRIATENESS
Date: December 7, 2007
Application Number: I2007 -1120A
Property Location: 1344 E. Wayne Street South
Property Owner: Kevin Wilson
Landmark or District Designation: East Wayne Street LHD
Rating: Contributing
STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT: This 1925 Colonial Revival house was
built by Whitcomb and Keller and sold to Ruth and Anton W. Peterson in 1927. Mr. Peterson was
president of Peterson Battery and Ignition Company located at 321-325 Lafayette. Mrs. Peterson was a
nurse and director of the Nurse's Registry for St. Joseph County. This house had eight additional owners
before it was purchased in 1995 by Kevin Wilson
APPLICATION ITEMS: To demolish non -original 2 %z car garage and replace with new 3 car garage
tying in with existing concrete slab. The garage will be built in a style and with materials to compliment
the house. Please see attached drawings and site plan.
STANDARDS FOR EAST WAYNE STREET: III NEW CONSTRUCTION, C. SHED AND
ACCESSORY BUILDINGS: Accessory buildings are those structures that serve a specific subordinate
function to the residence. These include garages, carports and storage sheds. All of the accessory
buildings are located in the rear yard. Most of the garages were designed in an architectural style related
to the residence and were constructed at the same time as the residence.
REQUIRED: Accessory buildings shall be located at the rear of the property and as unobtrusively as
possible while preserving historical relationships between buildings, landscape features and open spaces.
Proportions and materials shall conform to those required for new construction.
RECOMMENDED: Accessory building designs should be compatible in character and mood to the
residence and the neighborhood.
RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends approval. The proposed garage will replace a non -original
structure. It will be in a style and scale to the house and located at the rear of the property and not visible from
the street.
Application
- FOR -
Cert�r' f icate of Appropriateness
Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend & St. Joseph County
125 S. Lafayette Blvd., South Bend, Indiana 46601
Mailing Address: County-Gty Buiiding, South Bend, Indiana 46601
Phone: 574-235-97'98 • Fax. 574235-957$ Emai): S95jCHP0@co st joseph1mus
Website: http://wwwj§mephcauniyindimuLcom/ochp/hukx html
OFFICE USE ONLY »»» DO NOT COMPLETE ANY ENTRIES CONTl1'= IN THIS BOX >)-»> OFFICE USE ONLY
Date Received oW 'Kaci" 02,00 % Application Number. O Oz
Past Reviews: 9& (nrte gjLwt Xrvk,o)
Staff Approval authorized by.-
Historic
y:
Historic Commission Review Date: 17 A,.' -ZOO 7
0 Local Landmark ff Local Historic District ov.)
National Landmark [] National Register District avow)
Certificate of Appropriateness:
NO
Title:
Denied [] Tabled 0 Sent Tb Committee [] Approved and Issued
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Address of Property Owners): n,- 5L 2,444 _ , VC t r""
Contractors) Name: �c1J�'�Y1ct�5P�"
Contract Company Name:
Contractor Address:
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Current Use of Building:
(ShWUFamay-MulttFandty-Carwmid-cn ernment-Industria!-Voant-etc.)
Type of Building Construction:
(Wood Frame -Brick -Stan -Stat -Concrete-Other)
Proposed Work: ❑ In-kind Landscape [] New 211E�placement (not to -kind) ❑ Demolition
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A PARCEL OF LAND KING A PART OF THE NORTHWEST QUARTER OF
SECTION 7. TOWNSHIP 37 NORTH RANGE 3 EAST. PORTAGE TOWNSHIP. ST.
FOLLOWSJOSEPH: COUNTY. INDIANA AND OEM MORE PARTICULARLY OESCFWED AS
BEGINNING AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER of LOT 231 N WHITCOMB AND
KEUER'S SUMIMXDE AO MON; THENCE SOUTH 0519'26• WEST ALONG
THE NORTH LINE OF SAID LOT 231 AND ITS PROJECTION WEST, A
DISTANCE OF 49.62 FEET. THENCE NORTH 0709'54' WEST. A DISTANCE Of
7.03 FEET: THENCE NORTH 00'19'20' EAST PARALLEL WITH SAID NORM
LINE of LOT 231. A DISTANCE OF 49.53 FEET: THENCE SOUTH 0754W
EAST. A DISTANCE OF 7.04 FEET To THE PLACE of LEGwmIC.
BOUNDARY SURVEY
PART OF THE NORTHWEST QUARTER OF SECTION 7. TOWNSHIP 37 NORTH.
RANGE 3 EAST. PORTAGE TOWNSHIP. ST. JOSEPH COUNTY, INDIANA
WHITCOMB & KELLER'S SUNNYMEDE ADDITION
LOT /165 & THE SOUTH HALF OF THE VACATED ALLEY
LYING IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH
FOR I 1
KEVIN WILSON
1344 EAST WAYNE STREET
SOUTH BEND. INDIANA 46615
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TITLE HOLDERS NAME: KEVIN WILSON
1) N ACCORDANCE WITH TITLE 565. ARTICLE 1.1. CHAPTER 12 OF THE INDIANA ADMINISTRATIVE
CODE (RULE /I2). THE FOLLOWING OBSERVATIONS AND OPINIONS ARE SUBMITTED R[GARONG THE
VARIOUS UICERTAIMES N THE LOCATION OF THE LINES AND CORNERS ESTABLISHED ON THIS
SURVEY AS A RESULT OF UNCERTAINTIES IN REFERENCE MONUMENTS; N RECORD DESCRIPTIONS
AND PLATS: IN LINES OF OCCUPATION'; AND AS INTRODUCED BY RANDOM ERRORS N MEASUREMENT
(THEORETICAL UNCERTAINTY). THERE MAY BE UNWRITTEN RIMS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE
UNCERTAINTIES.
PUTS:
THIS SURVEY 6 A RECORD DOCUMENT RETRACEMENT SURVEY OF LOT 165 AND A31/LENT WICATED
ALLEYS AS SHOWN ON THE RECORDED PUT OF WHITCOB & KELLERY SUINTMEOE ADDITION.
RECORDED N BOOL 11. ON PAGE 202 N THE OFFICE OF THE RECORDER OF ST. JOSEPH COUNTY.
INDIANA 114E BASIS OF BFiWNCS FOR THIS SURVEY 6 AN ASSUMED S. 31. 32' 34' E FOR THE
NORTHEASTERLY LIE OF SND LOT.
THE THEoFrncLL UNCERTAINTY (DUE TO RANDOM ERRORS N MEASUREMENT) OF THE CORNERS OF
THE SLOW TRACT ESTABLISHED N THIS SURVEY 6 WITHIN THE SPECIFICATIONS FOR AN URBAN
SURVEY AS DEFINED IN IAC 561 THE RELATIVE POSRHONAI. ACCURACY 6 0.20 FEET. AS A RESULT.
OF THE ABOVE OBSERVATIONS. R 6 MY OPINION THAT THE UNCERTAINTIES IN THE LOCATIONS OF
THE LINES AND CORNERS ESTABLISHED ON THIS SURVEY ARE AS FOLLOWS:
- DUE TO VARIANCES IN REFERENCE MONUMENTS:* AS SHOWN ON THE PUT OF SURVEY HEREON
ATTACHED. DIFFERENCES N DISTANCES SHOWN HEREON ARE DUE TO -THE FIELD MEASUREMENTS
RELATION TO RECORD DISTANCES.
- DUE TO DFAREAVICES N THE RECORDED DESCRIPTION: NONE IN RELATION TO THE RECORD
DESCRIPTION WERE FOND.
- DUE TO INCONSISTENCIES N THE LIES OF OCCUPATION: NONE OBSERVED.
COMMENTS THE P 044 OF THIS SURVEY 6 FOR MR. WLSON TO BE ABLE TO ACONINE THE
VACATED ALLEY LYING SOUTH OF HIS GARAGE TO ALLOW FOR AN EXPANSION OF HIS GARAGE. A
COPY OF THE RECORDED PLAT AND ONE REFERENCE SURVEY WAS USED IN THE PLACE OF MISSING
PROPERTY CORNERS AND THE PROPERTY CORNER FOR THE NEW PARCEL BEING CREATED.
2) NO TITLE COMMITMENT HAS BEEN SUPPLIED TO THE SURVEYOR AT THE TIME OF THIS SURVEY.
FIELD WORK FOR THIS SURVEY WAS COMPLETED Olt 10-26-07.
3) THAT, THIS SURVEY WAS PERFORMED FROM PUBLIC RECORDS AND LEGAL DESCIVIWN6 AT THE
REO LEST OF KEVIN WILSON.
aANEYDRS cauFrATON
L TOWICE 0. WRC. AM A REGISTERED LAND SURVEYOR IN THE STATE OF ANOMIA AND
HEREBY CERTIFY: THAT 1 HAVE SURVEYED THE LANDS HEREON DESCRIBED AND
OELIEATED. AND THAT THIS SURVEY WAS PERFORMED UNDER MY DIRECT SUPERVISION
AND TO THE BEST OF W KNOWLEDGE AND BELIF THIS SURVEY HAS BEEN PERFORMED
N ACCORDANCE WITH 1HE REQUIREMENTS OF RULE 12 OF . HNLAAN STANDARDS FOR
COMPETENT PRACTICES OF WIND SURVEYING ' AND AS PRESSi1BED BY INDIANA
A010NSTRATIVE CODE US. 1.1-12. SIDED THIS 29th DAY OF OCTOBER. 2007.
FURTHER. 1 AFFNII UNDER THE PENALTIES FOR PERJURY. THAT I HAVE I NCEN GRE TO
REDACT EACH SOCIAL SEOURTY MINER N THIS DOCUMENT. UNLESS REQUIRED BY LAW.
BY:•TERANCE D. BANG.
7EAANCE 0. LANG IIS 5-0523
Lang. Feeney & Associates. Inc..
Land Surveyors
Seale i• - 40'
Dote 1D-29-07
Rev.
Rev.
715 S. Michigon Street
South Bend. Indiono 46601
Phone (574) 233-1841
• Soil Scientists
Drdwn BKG
Job Nome Whitcomb&KlXer1658s
IJob Ale' 113-69
Location. Budget 'as 'of 11-30-2007
Note: Includes transactions after the lastSaint
posted date of 07-01-2007:
_
Joseph County
Fund: 001 County General for 01/01/2007 thru 11/30/2007
Lac: 037 Historic Preservation
Account
Object Description
Original
Addt'VAdj
.. Total
unencumbered '
: Une xpended
Appropriation .
Appropriation
Appropriatlon
Encumbrance
Expenditure
BalancelPercertt
Balance/Percent
11075' Deputy Director
.30,000.00
0.00
30,OOb.00
0.00
27,692.40
2.307.60
000 General GovT.
..
2,307.60,
7.69
7.69
11309 , ..Historic Preservation Admin. _
36,050.00
0.00
36.050.00.
0.00
33,276.96
2,773.04.
000' General Gov T.
2,773:04
7.69
7.69
10000 - . Totals •'••„•••••••••• • •-;:••• �•-•**•
66,05000
0.00
66,050.00
0.00
60,969.36
5,080.64
5,080.64
7.69
7.69.
21030, Office Supplies
1,250.00 :.
59.50
1,309.50
184.62
583.81.
541.07
725.69 '
000 General Gov'T.
41.32 "
... 55.42
22016 Gas Oil & Lubricants
883.06
0.00
083.00
0.0087
555.13
327'
000 , General GovT. `
_
327.87
� .
3713
37.13
22120. Garage $ Motor Supplies
700.00
0.00
700.00
0.00
662.43 :.
37.57.
000 General06VT..
37.57
.
537
537
20000. Totals ••••*•••,•••••••*•
2,833.00
- 59.50
2,892.50"
184.62
. 1,801.37
906.51 ,
1,091.13
31.34
37.72
31070 , ' Other Contractual Services:
28,000.00
0.00
28,000 00
0.00
25,751.58 '
2,248.42.
2,248.42
000 General GovT.
- .
r 8.03
8.03
32020, Travel
42500
1,464.60
1,889.60
6.00
1.889.60.
0.00
0.00 .
000 General Gov T.
0.00
0.00
32050 Instruction & Training .'
1,000.00
(185.60)
814.40
0.00
375.00
439.40.
439.40
000 General GovT..
53.95
53.95
..
32053 - ..Public Relations
2,570.00
638.82
3,208.82
0.00
3,151.52
57.30
57.30
000 General GovT.
1.79
1.79
32200 Telephone .
"
160.00.
. 0.00
16000
0.00
0.00
160.00
160.00
000 ... General GovT.
, .'
,
100.00
100:00
32350. Postage2,160.00
400.36
2,660'.36 .
0.00
2,316.24
244.12
244.12
000 General Gov'T.
: 9.53
9.53:..
33010 Publication Of Legal Notices '
`500.00
0.00
500.00
0.00
114.56
385.44
385:44
000 General Gov't.
.77.09
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Location Budget as of 11-30-2007
Saint Joseph County
Note: Includes transactions after the last posted date of 07-01-2007.
Fund: 001 County General for 01/01/2007 thru 11/30/2007
Loc: 037 Historic Preservation
Account
Original
Addt'UAdj
Total
Unencumbered
Unexpended
Object Description
Appropriation
Appropriation
Appropriation
Encumbrance
Expenditure
Balance/Percent
Balance/Percent
33100 Printing
3,000.00
5,555.00
8,555.00
5,528.00
594.98
2,432.02
7,960.02
000 General GovT.
28.43
93.05
37100 Auto Lease
500.00
0.00
500.00
0.00
500.00
0.00
0.00
000 General Gcv'T.
0.00
0.00
39010 Dues & Subscription
750.00
0.00
750.00
0.00
506.95
243.05
243.05
000 General GovT.
32.41
32.41
39600 Refunds, Awards & Indemnities
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
22,762.58
(22,762.58)
(22,762.58)
000 General GovT.
0.00
0.00
39750 Data Processing
1,000.00
0.00
1,000.00
0.00
0.00
1,000.00
1,000.00
000 General GovT.
100.00
100.00
39980 Funds W/O Approp.
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
12,391.75
(12,391.75)
(12,391.75)
000 General GovT.
0.00
0.00
30000 Totals """"""'•'•••"`•'•'•"""'••••'••
40,065.00
7,873.18
47,938.18
5,528.00
70,354.76
(27,944.58)
(22,416.58)
(58.29)
(46.76)
42010 Buildings & Structures
0.00
30,000.00
30,000.00
0.00
30,000.00
0.00
0.00
367 Gifts&Contrib
0.00
0.00
44250 Office Machines
0.00
3,651.82
3,651.82
0.00
3,651.82
0.00
0.00
000 General GoVT.
0.00
0.00
40000 Totals "'•'••••'•••'••'••••••"•••••'"'••••••
0.00
33,651.82
33,651.82
0.00
33,651.82
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
Location Totals """•'•""'•""'•"••'••••••••'•"•'•
108,948.00
41,584.50
150,532.50
5,712.62
166,777.31
(21,957.43)
(16,244.81)
(14.59)
(10.79)
Investment Accounts
0.00
Transfer Accounts
000
166,777.31
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Location Budget as of 11-30-2007
Saint Joseph County
Note: Includes transactions after the last posted date of 07-01-2007.
Fund: 013 County Special Gifts for 01/01/2007 thru 11/30/2007
Loc: 037 Historic Preservation
Account
Original
Addt9/Adj
Total
Unencumbered
Unexpended
Object Description Appropriation
Appropriation
Appropriation
Encumbrance
Expenditure
Balance/Percent
Balance/Percent
00000 Gen GoVt
0.00
9,028.25
9,028.25
0.00
0.00
9,028.25
9,028.25
000 General GovT.
100.00
100.00
00000 Totals ******""*'"'*".......*"'**"««"'*'"'
0.00
9,028.25
9,028.25
0.00
0.00
9,028.25
9,028.25
100.00
100.00
23240 Other Supplies
0.00
2,656.00
2,656.00
0.00
0.00
2,656.00
2,656.00
000 General GovT.
100.40
100.00
20000 Totals «*«"'*"'""""`"""'*"*""'*'«"«"
0.00
2,656.00
2,656.00
0.00
0.00
2,656.00
2,656.00
100.00
104.40
42010 Buildings & Structures
0.00
52,000.00
52,000.00
0.00
52,000.00
0.00
0.00
367 Gifts&Contrib
0.00
0.00
40000 Totals":Y.a......:«.......:«.............*..
0.00
52,000.00
52,000.00
0.00
52,000.40
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
Location Totals'«««"'*"'««`*«""`*"`*"`*""**"`«*`
0.00
63,684.25
63,684.25
0.00
52,000.00
11,684.25
.11,684.25
18.35
18.35
0.00
Investment Accounts
Transfer Accounts 0.00
52,000.00
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1 MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE
2 HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
3 OF SOUTH BEND & ST. JOSEPH COUNTY
4 November 19, 2007
5 13th Floor Conference Room
6 County -City Building, South Bend, Indiana
7 Members Present: Lynn Patrick (Vice President), Timothy Klusczinski (President),
8 Linda Riley, Joann Sporleder (Architectural Historian), Mary Jane Chase (Treasurer),"
9 Jerry Uj dak -
10 Attorney: Shawn Peterson
11 Staff Present: None
12 Absent: Martha Choitz, Todd Zeiger
13 Visitors: Robert Sedlack, Mark Bruneau, Georges Enderle, Donald Sporleder
14
15 CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL: President Tim Klusczinski called the meeting
16 to order at 7:02 pm.
17 I. PUBLIC HEARING.
18 STAFF REPORT
19 CONCERNING APPLICATION FOR A
20 CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS
21
22 Date: November 8, 2007
23 Application Number:
24 Property Location:
25 Property Owner:
2007-1023
817 Forest Avenue
Theresa and Robert Sedlack
1
26 Landmark or District Designation: Chapin Park NR/LHD
27 Rating: N
28 STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT: This StickNernacular
29 style house was built in 1892 for Elizabeth Lemen on Lot 28 of Chapin Place that was
30 purchased from Edward Chapin. The house was constructed for Elizabeth's son, Edward
31 Lemen, a manufacturer of "blank books". Mary and Lafayette LeVan purchased the home
32 in 1894 and resided there until 1900. Mr. LeVan was a superintendent for the Oliver
33 Chilled Plow Works.
34 APPLICATION ITEMS: To replace old, rotted wooden fence with black ornamental aluminum
35 "Hamilton" fencing with Quad Finials between the house and the garage on the south along with
36 the 50 feet of fencing on the north side of the house and 8 feet along the east side per site plan. To
37 install a new fence of the same design along the rear of the property with gates for car and a walk
38 gate to connect with neighbors' fencing of same design in COA #2007-1029.
39 CHAPIN PARK STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES:
40 B. BUILDING SITE, LANDSCAPING & ACCESSORIES
41 This section focuses on individual properties and amenities. Building sites tend to be irregularly
42 shaped, of varying topography and with different setbacks with regard to plots. Alleys are
43 generally behind houses. Landscape accessories like fences are unique to each structure. Chapin
44 Place presents a unique situation within the district. Applications from properties that have
45 property lines on Chapin Place will be considered on a case-by-case basis.
46 Required
47 Fencing, walkways, outbuildings, private yard lights, signs (i.e. house numbers) and benches
48 (visible from the street) as well as trees located in a yard or tree lawn which reflect the property's
49 history and development shall be retained. A tree located in such areas shall only be removed if
50 the removal is required due to storm damage,disease, threatened damage to a structure or for such
51 other reason acceptable to the Historic Preservation Commission. Storm damaged or diseased
52 trees should then be replaced with an approved species at the same or approximate location
53 wherever possible. Fencing visible from the street in front of the structure shall be open
54 (meaning spaces between the pickets) and consistent with the historic character of a structure
55 enclosed.
56 Recommended
57 New site work should be based upon actual knowledge of the past appearance of the property
58 found in photographs, drawings and newspapers. New site work should also be appropriate to
59 existing surrounding site elements in scale, type and appearance. Front yard areas should remain
60 open. (See above for information regarding fences.) Trees in close proximity to a building may
61 cause structural damage. Owners are encouraged to remove these trees and replace (or replant)
62 them at a more appropriate location as soon as planting season permits and upon approval of aC
63 of A.
2
64 Prohibited
65 No changes may be made to the appearance of the site by removing trees, fencing, walkways,
66 outbuildings or other elements before evaluating their importance to the property's history and
67 development. Front yard areas shall not be transformed into parking lots nor paved nor
68 blacktopped, nor enclosed by solid fences, chain link, nor industrial/commercial style fences. The
69 installation of unsightly large devices, such as television satellite dishes, skylights or solar panels,
70 shall not be permitted in areas where they detract from the architecture of a building, are intrusive
71 to the public view of the building or are highly visibly from a public street, or ruled inappropriate
72 after Commission review. Utility poles with high-intensity overhead lights should be installed so
73 that they cannot be seen from a street. The Commission will evaluate all installations as well as
74 any potential exceptions resulting from special circumstances, before granting a C of A.
75 RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends approval of both items. The fence style is more
76 appropriate to the site than the solid wooden fence. The standards and guidelines for Chapin Park
77 are silent on the use of fencing the rear of the property and concentrate more on the front yard
78 views which require the open views which this style possesses.
79 Tim Klusczinski: Is the petitioner present? Please step closer to the microphone and please
80 state your name and address for the record.
81 Robert Sedlack: My name is Robert Sedlack, 817 Forest Avenue.,
82 Tim Klusczinski: OK. Would you care to make a short presentation?
83 Robert Sedlack: Sure, I will be very brief. The report that Tim Klusczinski just read is
84
very accurate, the rotting wooded fence we would like to replace with a
85
more historic architecturally accurate fence. We looked briefly into
86
wrought iron fences and realized that they were well beyond our means.
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The ornamental aluminum recreates that look. We are paying a little
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extra for the finials to top off the top of the fence to make it even more
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architecturally accurate. It is a safety issue with kids and a replacement
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issue with an old rotting fence. I think that is all that I have to say. I
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welcome any questions.
92 Tim Klusczinski: The chair recognizes Commissioners with questions for the petitioner.
93 Mary Jane Chase: IIs your property onto an alley?
94 Robert Sedlack: It is.
95 Mary Jane Chase: OK. I wondered because the entrance to the garage would be this way?
96 Robert Sedlack: No the entrance of the garage is directly off the back alley.
97 Mary Jane Chase: Oh, OK, so that ... that would ... I see...
98 Robert Sedlack Remember we're replacing ... so this is the entrance to the garage and that
99 the alley is here. We have fences that butt up to the alley our neighbor
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due north of us and our neighbor two buildings south of us have fences
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that go right to the alley and that will become significant and my other
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neighbor who is here has a similar proposal as we are looking to stop
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some foot traffic through his lawn but you'll hear from him in just a
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moment.
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Tim Klusczinski:
Any other questions?
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Joann Sporleder:
Yes. What color is this fence?
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Robert Sedlack:
Black.
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Tim Klusczinski:
Hearing no other questions. Open discussion... any discussion? Hearing
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no discussion, the chair opens public hearing. Is there any member of the
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public wishing to speak in support of the petition?
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Voice:
I think it's an excellent idea.
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Tim Klusczinski:
Sir, could you come up and identify yourself, please?
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Mark Bruneau:
My name is Mark Bruneau and I live at 815 Forest Avenue, which is
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right next door, I am the neighbor that is putting up the fence right next
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to his, so we are closing off the alley together. We currently do not have
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a fence.
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Joann Sporleder:
So you are closing off the alley?
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Mark Bruneau:
We are closing off access from the alley to my property.
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Tim Klusczinski:
Uninvited foot traffic...
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Mark Bruneau:
Uninvited foot traffic, so I am strongly in support of Robert getting the
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fence so we are getting the fence as part of the same project.
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Joann Sporleder:
Ok, so, so ... just get me oriented because I can't read the anal thing.
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Tim Klusczinski:
Joann, I don't know if we are allowed necessarily to investigate his
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proposal because....
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Joann Sporleder:
I just want to know what the relationship is between the two.
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Mark or Robert:
His house is this way and my house is that way.
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Tim Klusczinski:
Any other members of the public wishing to speak in support? Hearing
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none, any members of the public wishing to speak in opposition?
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Hearing none, chair is closing public hearing. Any final comments? Mr.
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Sedlack?
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Robert Sedlack:
No.
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132 Tim Klusczinski: Very Good ... Any additional discussion Commissioners? Very
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Good.Chair entertains a motion.
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Lynn Patrick:
Motion we approve Certificate of Appropriateness number 2007-1023.
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Linda Riley:
Second.
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Tim Klusczinski:
Motion. has been made and seconded. Any other discussion? All in
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favor? 6 Ayes. Opposed? 0. Motion carries unanimously.
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Robert Sedlack:
Thank you for your time.
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Commissioners:
Thank You!
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Joann Sporleder:
I would like to request not reading all of that stuff with this COA, just the
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things that pertinent to that particular house.
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Tim Klusczinski:
I'd be OK with that but I don't know whether or not this is any different
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than the other. I haven't compared them,
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Joann Sporleder:
I have.
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Tim Klusczinski:
Ok. And you're willing to testify that....
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Joann Sporleder:
I just want your to read the Application items on down. And the
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Historical Context of the house. That little bit; that's different. All
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Chapin Park standards and guidelines are the same, so ... that could be
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assumed and understood.
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Tim Klusczinski:
Ok. Very Good. Welcome to the abbreviated text.
151 STAFF REPORT
152 CONCERNING APPLICATION FOR A
153 CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS
154 Date: November 8, 2007
155 Application Number: 2007-1029
156 Property Location: 815 Forest Avenue
157 Property Owner: Julie and Mark Bruneau
158 Landmark or District Designation: Chapin Park NR/LHD
159 Rating: Contributing
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160 STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT: The Queen Anne at
161 815 Forest was built in 1891 for Flora and Charles Horst. Charles was a hackman for
162 Miller & Newman. They raised three children: Rudolf, Sarah and Jay. Sarah, who
163 became a nurse inherited the house in the 1930s and lived there into the 1940s.
164 APPLICATION ITEMS: To enclose backyard for privacy and to end random foot traffic
165 between Forest Avenue, Leland and the alley between them. Per site material submitted. Fencing
166 and style to match that of COA#2007-1023 "Hamilton" black aluminum with Quad Finials. This
167 would be a new 60 foot fence with a walk gate along the rear of the back yard and alleyway
168 CHAPIN PARK STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES:
169 B. BUILDING SITE, LANDSCAPING & ACCESSORIES
170 This section focuses on individual properties and amenities. Building sites tend to be irregularly
171 shaped, of varying topography and with different setbacks with regard to plots. Alleys are
172 generally behind houses. Landscape accessories like fences are unique to each structure. Chapin
173 Place presents a unique situation within the district. Applications from properties that have
174 property lines on Chapin Place will be considered on a case-by-case basis.
175 Required
176 Fencing, walkways, outbuildings, private yard lights, signs (i.e. house numbers) and benches
177 (visible from the street) as well as trees located in a yard or tree lawn which reflect the property's
178 history and development shall be retained. A tree located in such areas shall only be removed if
179 the removal is required due to storm damage, disease, threatened damage to a structure or for
180 such other reason acceptable to the Historic Preservation Commission. Storm damaged or
181 diseased trees should then be replaced with an approved species at the same or approximate
182 location wherever possible. Fencing visible from the street in front of the structure shall be open
183 (meaning spaces between the pickets) and consistent with the historic character of a structure
184 enclosed.
185 Recommended
186 New site work should be based upon actual knowledge of the past appearance of the property
187 found in photographs, drawings and newspapers. New site work should also be appropriate to
188 existing surrounding site elements in scale, type and appearance. Front yard areas should remain
189 open. (See above for information regarding fences.) Trees in close proximity to a building may
190 cause structural damage. Owners are encouraged to remove these trees and replace (or replant)
191 them at a more appropriate location as soon as planting season permits and upon approval of a C
192 of A.
193 Prohibited
194 No changes may be made to the appearance of the site by removing trees, fencing, walkways,
195 outbuildings or other elements before evaluating their importance to the property's history and
196 development. Front yard areas shall not be transformed into parking lots nor paved nor
197 blacktopped, nor enclosed by solid fences, chain link, nor industrial/commercial style fences. The
198 installation of unsightly large devices, such as television satellite dishes, skylights or solar panels,
199 shall not be permitted in areas where they detract from the architecture of a building, are intrusive
200 to the public view of the building or are highly visibly from a public street, or ruled inappropriate
201 after Commission review. Utility poles with high-intensity overhead lights should be installed so
202 that they cannot be seen from a street. The Commission will evaluate all installations as well as
203 any potential exceptions resulting from special circumstances, before granting a C of A.
204 RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends approval. The standards and guidelines for Chapin
205 Park are silent on the use of fencing the rear of the property and concentrate more on the front
206 yard views which require the open views which this style possesses. The aluminum "Hamilton"
207 style compliments the site and style of the house.
208 Tim Klusczinski: I see once again that the petitioner is here. Could you identify
209 yourself once again for this case.
210 Mark Bruneau: Certainly. I am Mark Bruneau from 815 Forest Avenue.
211 Tim Klusczinski: Care to make any statement regarding your certificate of
212 appropriateness?
213 Mark Bruneau:
No. The application items fairly well encompasses what we are
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trying to do. For the most part we are trying to cut the foot traffic
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that cuts through our yard. We had some theft issues in the past
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and cutting down the foot traffic certainly should reduce that a
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little bit. Other than that, style and such, to historical accuracy as
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best we could.
219 Tim Klusczinski: Very Good. Any Commissioners with questions for the petitioner?
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Ok. Hearing none ... any commission discussion? Also hearing
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none, Chair opens public hearing. Is there any member of the
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public wishing to speak in support of the current petition? I see
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one.
224 Robert Sedlack:
I am Robert Sedlack 817 Forest Avenue. I support Mark's interest
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in putting up the fence, mainly, in his case, for foot traffic and theft
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reasons, we have slightly different reasons that we are doing this,
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that is important for everyone in the neighborhood.
228 Tim Klusczinski:
Very Good. Any other member of the public? Any member of the
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public wishing to speak against the current petition? Hearing none,
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chair closes public hearing, moving on, any final remarks,
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statements, clarifications...
232 Mark Bruneau: No, No thank you.
233 Tim Klusczinski: Very Good. Any additional discussion, Commission?
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234 Joann Sporleder: I don't have any real discussion, but I asking this question
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wrongly, I am sure, often when we have the historical information
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about it brings us up to the present and in these cases it doesn't in
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either case, but our staff people aren't here to respond to that I was
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just curious as to why the historical context hasn't been brought up
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to date, so to speak. In many cases it has been, but in this case it
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hasn't.
241 Tim Klusczinski:
I see.
242 Jerry Ujdak:
Make a note of that.
243 Tim Klusczinski:
I will.
244 Mary Jane Chase: Well in the previous on it just went up to 1900, so...
245 Tim Klusczinski: Just as a point of clarification, I am not sure that legally that it's
246 particularly relevant unless it does somehow manipulate the
247 application I not sure that it does in this case, but I will bring it up
248 to Catherine and Amy.
249 Joann Sporleder: Well, sometime subsequent owners are significant in some way,
250 that's my feeling any way.
251 Tim Klusczinski: Very Good, any other discussion? Hearing none, Chair entertains a
252 motion.
253 Lynn Patrick: I motion that we approve certificate of appropriateness number
254 2007-1029.
255 Tim Klusczinski: Is there a second?
256 Mary Jane Chase: Second.
257 Tim Klusczinski: The motion has been made and seconded to approve and other
258 discussion? Hearing none, All in favor? 6Ayes. Opposed? 0
259 Motion carries unanimously. Thank you very much.
260 Mark Bruneau: Thank you very much for your time. .
261 Tim Klusczinski: Typically there will be follow up from the staff. Application
262 number 2007-1107.
263 STAFF REPORT
264 CONCERNING APPLICATION FOR A
265 CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS
266 Date: November 8, 2007
267 Application Number: COA# 2007-1107
268 Property Location: 710 Park Avenue
269 Property Owner: Georges Enderle
270 Landmark or District Designation: Local Landmark, Chapin Park LHD/NR
271 Rating: Outstanding
272 STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT: This Eclectic Italianate
273 was built for Mary Chapin Anderson and Andrew Anderson between 1875 and 1877.
274 Four generations of the Anderson-DuShane family lived in this house until 1962. This is
275 one of the most significant residential architectural structures in the city of South Bend
276 and in Chapin Park.
277 APPLICATION ITEMS: Four Marvin replacement windows in the bay area, wood ultimate
278 insert double hung, double pane, upgraded to Low E II with Argon gas. Per letter and
279 specifications submitted.
280 CHAPIN PARK STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES
281 C. WINDOWS AND DOORS
282 Window and door frames are in most cases wood and vary depending upon the style of the home.
283 Many are double -hung windows with wood trim and sills. Brick structures have stone sills and
284 brick lintels. In some cases where aluminum siding has been applied, the window and door trim
285 has been covered. About half of the structures in the district have aluminum storm windows; the
286 other half have wood storm windows.
287 Required
288 Original windows and doors shall be retained including sashes, lintels, sills, shutters, decorative
289 glass, pediments, hoods and hardware. When deteriorated beyond repair, they shall be replaced
290 with units and trim resembling the original.
291 Recommended
292 Wood storm windows and doors painted or finished to match the original should be used but
293 should not damage existing frames. If new sashes or doors are installed, the existing or original
294 materials, design and hardware should be used. When metal storm doors are used, they should be
295 painted, anodized or coated to match the existing. When awnings are used, they should be of
296 canvas material.
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297 Prohibited
298 Original doors, windows and hardware shall not be discarded when they can be restored and
299 reused in place. New window and door openings, which would alter the scale and proportion of
300 the building may not be introduced. Inappropriate new window and door features such as metal,
301 vinyl or fiberglass awnings, hoods or aluminum insulating glass combinations that require
302 removal of original windows and doors, shall not be installed.
303 Not Recommended
304 Fake shutters that would detract from the existing character or appearance of the building should
305 not be used.
306 GROUP B LANDMARK STANDARDS B. Treatment: Treatment shall be defined as any
307 change of surface materials that will not alter the style or original form. Such improvements
308 include reproofing, glazing, or landscaping lawns and may involve a change that can
309 potentially enhance or detract from the character of the landmark. A treatment change of
310 any surface whether on the landmark or in its environment may require a Certificate of
311 Appropriateness if it significantly alters the appearance of the landmark. Although these
312 kinds of changes may not require a Building Permit, a Certificate of Appropriateness may
313 be necessary. The commission should review the proposed treatment for character and style
314 consistency with the original surfaces.
315 RECOMMENDATION: Staff can not recommend approval as the windows are not
316 deteriorated beyond repair and can be restored in-situ in this significant architectural
317 landmark. These are the same windows that were applied for in COAs 2006-1108A and
318 2007-0905A which the Commission denied.
319 Tim Klusczinski: Professor? Please identify yourself. name and address
320 Georges Enderle: Yes. I am Georges Enderle, I live at 710 Park Avenue, South Bend.
321 Tim Klusczinski: You are here to make a brief presentation on behalf of your
322 petition.
323 Georges Enderle: Yes. Thank you. Well as you all know my house is a beautiful
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building and I feel that I have a responsibility to preserve the
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unique character of my house. But the windows are deteriorating
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severely and need repair. Since September, 2006 I've been
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discussing my window problem with the Historic Preservation
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Commission many times and in the process I've learned quite a lot
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about vindows. Including the visits of some commissioners to my
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house we had six meetings, so today is our seventh meeting.
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Unfortunately, we couldn't find a solution so far. So what I am
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proposing is four Marvin replacement windows in the bay area:
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wood ultimate inserts, or wood tilt backs with jamb liners, double
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hung, double pane, upgraded to Low E II with Argon gas. To be
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clear, my proposal concerns only the four windows in the bay area
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of the dining room. Replacement Windows, inserts or tilt backs are
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of high quality in wood without aluminum clad and double pane:
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Neither interior nor exterior storm windows are required for this
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solution. My view, they meet the essential criteria of sustainability
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and authenticity to address my window problem. So, why I am
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applying for this? Well, I think that the windows cannot be
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restored in-situ as the staff report says. They have to be taken out,
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they have to be repaired while we are exposed to bad weather and
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moved in again. There are, I think, in our discussions three options
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we have examined but none of them is acceptable. The first option
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is to install a second glass on the restored single pane windows.
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This is not possible because the size of my windows is too big and
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the strength of the windows would be impaired severely. But
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second option is interior storm windows. They could be installed,
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technically speaking, yes. But this decision is at the discretion of
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the owner and I don't want interior storm windows because they
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substantially impair the aesthetics of the dining room and need to
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be removed and re -installed in spring and fall respectively; hence
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reducing my quality of life. Third, the third option is exterior storm
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windows, but they are technically not feasible in the bay area.
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Moreover, they would harm the current historic aesthetics of the
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exterior of the area. Furthermore, my house never had, never had,
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exterior storm windows. How, then, could the Historic
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Preservation Commission require install something new that is
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alien to my historic house. Because none of these three options is
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acceptable and no other proposal was offered by the Commission, l
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can not but ask for the proposed four Marvin windows replacement
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windows. I think that this solution does the least harm to the
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existing structure of my house. Thank you.
365 Lynn Patrick:
I'd like to ask, if may, is that a prepared statement that you have
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just read?
367 Georges Enderle:
Prepared?
368 Lynn Patrick:
Yes, what you just read us, did you have it all written out in
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advance?
370 Georges Enderle: Well, its some remarks, I can give it later on.
371 Lynn Patrick: I am wondering if that would be helpful since the person who is
372 going to be typing up the minutes, if you had a copy, we could
373 include with the materials, it would make it easier when she goes
374 to type up the minutes.
375 Georges Enderle: I will send it.
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376 Tim Klusczinski: Professor, I have a Staff Response in my packet. When you said
377 that the Staff did not provide an alternate solution to you, did you
378 receive that dated October 24?
379 Georges Enderle: Yes. You mean with the three proposals, the articles and the
380 brochure?
381 Tim Klusczinski: Well ... it goes: Dear Dr. Enderle, The Commissioners of the
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Historic Preservation Commission instructed me to write to you
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concerning you bay windows and your desire to have operable,
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more energy efficient windows. The latest information available
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from research indicates that the heat loss through the single pane of
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window glass is about 20%, but, the majority of the heat loss is
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through improperly fitting sashes and the framing. The proposal
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that the Historic preservation Commission would accept would be
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the total restoration of the original windows by an experience
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craftsman with the installation of the appropriate weather-stripping
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to ensure a proper fit. This would include the insulation of the
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window cavities as well to reduce the draughts and can be
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accomplished in such a way as to accommodate the weights. The
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Commission would not have any objections to interior storms and
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would recommend additional insulation on the bay window area
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around the knee wall and its base. The Commission might allow
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exterior storms if they could be applied discreetly in the window
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openings over the restored windows. The Commission also might
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allow the installation of double paned window glass in the original
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sashes if they could be successfully installed in the original
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window sashes. The Historic preservation Commission will only
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accept the least invasive applications for your home because your
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home is a significant and landmarked structure within an
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architecturally important local and national register district; and
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because the windows are not deteriorated beyond repair. The Staff
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and Commissioners would be available to assist and advise the
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craftsman that you would select for your window project. I know
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that a successful project is important to you and have enclosed
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product information and restoration articles to help guide you in
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this process. Please do not hesitate to call with any questions or
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concerns, Sincerely, Catherine D. Hostetler, Director
412 Georges Enderle: Yes. We had Catherine and Paul Hayden and Mr. Schoberg came
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to my house. We had a meeting and we discussed it and in this
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letter it said that interior storm windows would be allowed, well I
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don't ... I appreciate that ... but I think this is out of the question.
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About exterior storm windows I think I made those three points
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before, I don't understand how you can improve the quality of a
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single pane window with the help I was offered. Because a double
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pane window is stronger than a single pane window and here
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scientific research is very clear about it, two windows insulate
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better than one. So that is why I am saying I see three options
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either I mean that we discuss that we take the existing windows we
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install a second glass one the first, existing window, but this is not
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possible because my windows are too big. And if you do that they
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loose the strength, it is not stable any more; that is what Wayne
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Doolittle told me and what I could find in the literature.
427 Tim Klusczinski:
You said that you also met with Steve Schoberg and Paul
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Hayden...
429 Georges Enderle: Yes.
430 Tim Klusczinski: And I don't have the ability to ask staff if they documented the
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context of the meeting. But I am interested in knowing if Steve
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Schoberg ... because he is a contractor, window restoration
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specialist as far as we know.
434 Georges Enderle:
Right.
435 Tim Klusczinski:
And then Paul Hayden is also technical support from Historic
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Landmark.
437 Georges Enderle: Yes. Right.
438 Tim Klusczinski: Did they offer any other suggestions to you?
439 Georges Enderle:
Well after that meeting, I got three things: I got two articles, which
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I mentioned in my letter, and the brochure of light windows
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invisible windows which are storm windows inside and outside.
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Now, my point, I think is clear. That there are three things: first is
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what can we do"with the existing storm windows? The second is
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what about interior storm windows and third question is what
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about exterior storm windows? These are three questions. And the
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first question is maybe we can put the second glass on top of the
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first one? But this is not possible, I mean with all good will, it is
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not stable and the strength of the big windows, they are huge
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windows, you know. You cannot with the same wood frame place
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another thing ... and, and think... believe that it is insulated over the
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next 20 years. This is technically not possible. So, a possibility is,
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and I discussed it with Mr. Schoberg, and he said what he would
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do, he would restore the window as it is but keep the glass as it is,
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not to add any second glass. Well, then I have the same problem
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next winter as well, that one glass does not protect enough against
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the cold from outside. You assume that I can put interior storm
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windows, well I told, I tell you I don't want that. It's not your
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business to tell me what I do in my house. You tell I should have
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exterior storm windows; well I tell you its physically, technically
460
not feasible because there is such a small space between the
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existing double hung, now, the upper sash and the frame, you
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would have to put the storm window on top of the existing frame
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and the water could drop down. In addition, we cannot have the
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light effects as we have; now we have two sashes, the upper sash
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and the lower sash and they have a very beautiful light effect, light
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effect from outside. I have in my house one storm window on the
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porch at the entrance which I don't know when it was placed in,
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certainly without the permission of the Commission, it looks very
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ugly. You know, I can, it looks like it was put on the frame with
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screws, I don't touch it, you know. But I don't want to see the
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house with this kind of storm windows all over the place; it would
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be a deterioration of the house, I cannot take the responsibility for
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that. You would be, I mean, imagine how you, I have 54 windows,
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you know, and you put this kind of exterior storm windows and it
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will look afterwards. If you....
476 Tim Klusczinski:
You have brought up an interesting point, because you said your
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petitioning for four windows in the bay area, do you have
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intentions on applying this same procedure to all other 52 or 50
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windows?
480 Georges Enderle: No, I have no intention about the other windows, but, because
481 windows are different, you know. There are about three or four
482 different types of windows, that's why I want to talk about those
483 four windows in the bay area because they are the most urgent
484 thing to do.
485 Tim Klusczinski: Ok.
486 Georges Enderle: We have our table there for breakfast lunch and dinner, but we can
487 not have our lunch and dinner there, it's not possible, we have to
488 go to another room. To say that you could put some blankets or
489 some heavy curtains due to the cold coming in, well that was in
490 1890 or 95, but not in the year 2007.
491 Tim Klusczinski: My question has been answered professor, any other questions for
492 the petitioner?
493 Shawn Peterson: I'd like to clarify for the record, you said that you could restore the
494 windows?
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495 Georges Enderle: No, he did not say that. We looked at it, we discussed it, but he did
496 not make a judgement.
497 Shawn Peterson: Who said that it wouldn't support the double windows?
498 END OF TAPE #1.
499 Don Sporleder: Don Sporleder, 205 Cripe Street, Professor of Architecture
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Emeritus, University of Notre Dame. I would speak in favor of this
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petition for a Certificate of Appropriateness. On the points that the
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proposed is a remedy to a problem that is a problem. It is not
503
invasive, and indeed maintains the appearance of the existing land
504
marked house. A very important part. The fact that the storm
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windows, which is an option, if that were done it would definitely
506
change the appearance. It's not an easy one because the existing
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situation would not accommodate the use of storm windows except
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for a jerry-rigged thing. The fact that the house is historic and has
509
not had storm windows, I would submit, is a good case for not
510
doing exterior storms as well not withstanding the change in
511
appearance that would occur. And the interior storms which I think
512
the petitioners points were well presented though I think that the
513
windows are proposed are good ones and would work well.
514 Tim Klusczinski: Thank you sir. Any member of the public wishing to speak in
515 opposition to the current petition? Hearing none, I close the public
516 hearing. Final comments? No? Any other Commission comments,
517 discussion, questions?
518 Joann Sporleder:
Yes, I would just like to say that this has been long and torturous
519
for all of us, but I'm sure that Tim hasn't enjoyed this any better
520
than anyone else has. I think that it's important to keep the overall
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appearance architecturally and historically. The outside appearance
522
is kind of critical. Also equally important is making the structure
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livable in an accommodating, modern way that we like to live in.
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To consign someone to perpetually living in single pane glass and
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it's all made nice and tight and is perfectly wonderful so that the
526
air doesn't blow in around the edges, you've still got frost on the
527
windows unless you put plastic on the inside. I think to use the best
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technology that is currently available to achieve all of the purposes
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of improving the livability of our most important historic structures
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and not treat them as museum pieces because we want people to
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live in them and enjoy them. I think that he has worked hard to try
532
and find a way to fit this in with the deteriorating fabric of his
533
house in anyway and still give the appearance of the outside to be
534
the same as it currently is: And to maintain his livability as he
535
wants to in his own house, as we all do. I think he's tried very hard
536
to do the best he could with this. The economic thing is happily not
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537 a consideration here, he's willing to spend the money to get a
538 quality piece of work here.
539 Tim Klusczinski: Thank you. Any other statements?
540 Mary Jane Chase: The only thing that I notice in 2006 and 2007 the C o f A's were
541 applied for in November, September and now into November. If
542 the windows need to be taken out, why hasn't this ever been done
543 in May or June?
544 Tim Klusczinski: That's a good point.
545 Georges Enderle: Well, the answer is that I was hoping that in September we had the
546 solution for the Fall but it was not.
547 Mary Jane Chase: The inconvenience is the weather. If we'd had this in May or June
548 any need to take them out and repair them would have been very
549 possible.
550 Georges Enderle:
551 Tim Klusczinski:
552 Linda Riley:
553
554 Tim Klusczinski:
555
I remember why I was out of the country.
Ok.
I have a follow up question to that. If he'd wanted to take them out
and repair them, would he have needed a C of A for that?
No, not for in-kind. You can fix and repair, in kind, any part of
your house.
556 Joann Sporleder:
You still need a C of A for re -roofing your house even in kind.
557 Linda Riley:
I know...
558 Tim Klusczinski:
Anything that requires a building permit, and that's the trip
559
mechanism for that. Repairing your own windows does not require
560
a building permit.
561 Linda Riley: What if he had someone else repair them?
562 Tim Klusczinski:
It wouldn't matter. If you incur a certain indebtedness to the
563
contractor that exceeds $500.00, then that trips the Building
564
Department, and you must have a C of A at the same time. I don't
565
think that's really here nor there, you can repair any part of your
566
house. The Chair entertains a motion one way or the other.
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567 ' Joann Sporleder: I move, what is the number for this, I move that C of A 2007-1107
568 for 710 Park Avenue be approved because the proposal...
569 Tim Klusczinski: You don't have to state a reason.
570 Joann Sporleder: I know, but I'd like to. Because it does no harm in any way to the
571 existing structure, it seems to be architecturally appropriate, and it
572 does the public no harm.
573 Linda Riley: Second
574 Tim Klusczinski: Motion has been made and seconded.
575 Shawn Peterson: For the record, because the motion is to approve, if you vote
576 against it, you do not need to state a reason. If you vote to deny is
577 when you need to state your reasons.
578 Joann Sporleder: I understand that, Shawn, I just wanted to state why I was...
579 Tim Klusczinski: For her...
580 Shawn Peterson: So if you vote against this motion you don't have to state your
581 reasons why, but if you had entertained a motion to deny you
582 would have to.
583 Tim Klusczinski: Really?
584 Shawn Peterson: A motion to approve if it fails, does not end. You need a motion to
585 deny to pass. So as far as the rationale in the ordinance, as far as
586 stating your rationale, it's when you vote on a motion to deny, not
587 necessarily a negative motion on a motion to approve.
588 Joann Sporleder:
589
590 Shawn Peterson:
591 Joann Sporleder:
592 Tim Klusczinski:
593
594
595
596 Shawn Peterson:
597
But the same thing applies if you make a positive motion and the
motion is defeated.
No, that doesn't apply. You have to have a motion to deny.
No, that's not right Shawn.
I'll defer to counsel tonight. Motion has been made and seconded.
Any other discussion? So, to clarify Shawn, you're suggesting that
motions in favor or motions to deny don't require an explanation at
this point?
A motion has been made to approve, if that motion should fail then
action has not been taken by the Commission. It's when a motion
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598
is to deny and in approving that motion, if that succeeds then the
599
Commission has effectively denied it. Therefore, if your rationale
600
on a motion to deny is what's necessary, not necessarily a negative
601
vote on a motion to approve.
602
Tim Klusczinski:
Which means also that if a motion dies then no action has been
603
taken and what are the results of that if there is not a follow up
604
motion?
605
Shawn Peterson:
Then the Commission would have deemed not to take action on it
606
and within 60 days it would need to be approved.
607
Tim Klusczinski:
Ok, I understand.
608
Shawn Peterson:
The motion on the floor to approve has been seconded.
609
Linda Riley:
They don't have to state their reason for denying?
610
Shawn Peterson:
It's when you have a motion on the table to deny.
611
Tim Klusczinski:
Any other discussion? Hearing none. I'll open it up for a vote. All
612
in favor? 2 ayes. Opposed?
613
Mary Jane Chase:
I abstain.
614
Lynn Patrick:
Nay.
615
Tim Klusczinski:
Ok. Um, let's go with ... roll call.
616
Joann Sporleder:
I vote in favor of the motion to approve.
617
Jerry Ujdak:
I abstain.
618
Tim Klusczinski:
I vote to deny.
619
Lynn Patrick:
I move to deny, I vote nay.
620
Linda Riley:
I vote to approve.
621
Mary Jane Chase:
Mary Jane Chase abstains.
622
Shawn Peterson:
Let the record show that the vote has failed for a lack of majority
623
of those present.
624
Tim Klusczinski:
So, are we limited to....
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625 Shawn Peterson:
You can entertain a motion to deny if you'd like. Or, there are
626
other options as well. You can abstain from taking action and take
627
it up at your next meeting, tabling it. You have 60 days to approve.
628
As of now, the Commission has not taken action on it.
629 Jerry Ujdak: You can refer it to Standards and Maintenance.
630 Tim Klusezinski: We have, we've been there a few times. I move to deny on the
631 basis that any recommendations by staff have not been met and
632 any of the solutions presented here tonight can not be fulfilled if
633 this C of A passes. In addition, the double sill character of the
634 replacement windows, particularly on this C of A would be in
635 place, and when it has been suggested that an alternate come
636 forward without that double sill option, this C of A must be
637 defeated before that can happen. So, I've made a motion, is there a
638 second?
639 Lynn Patrick: I'll second.
640 Shawn Peterson: Just a reminder, that at roll call, you must state your rationale as far
641
as why and to remind you that should be based on whether or not
642
something is appropriate based upon the standards; second, what
643
detriment would there be to allowing this to the overall public and
644
the impact on the structure and its significance; and finally what
645
would the impact as far as hardship to the applicant. Those are
646
your three factors to decide whether to approve or deny and you
647
must make statements as far as why you think those things are the
648
case when you make your vote to deny the application.
649 Lynn Patrick: To make those more brief, the 1-2-3 is 1. appropriateness, 2.
650 damage to the public, and 3. hardship to the petitioner.
651 Shawn Peterson: . Correct.
652 Lynn Patrick: Ok.
653 Linda Riley: Would you read.the motion again?
654 Tim Klusczinski: I'd like to replay you the tape. Shawn could you restate the motion
655 for Linda's benefit please?
656 Shawn Peterson: The motion on the table is to deny the application in question. It
657 has been seconded, so a roll call vote is appropriate at this time.
658 Joann Sporleder:. Do we have to say our findings again?
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659 Shawn Peterson: Your rationale. If you vote in favor of a motion to deny, you must
660 state your rationale for the record.
661 Joann Sporleder: And if I vote against the motion to deny?
662 Tim Klusczinski: You're free.
663 Joann Sporleder: I vote against the motion to deny.
664 Jerry Ujdak: I still abstain.
665 Tim Klusczinski: I vote to deny on the basis that it does not reflect the guidelines for
666
the landmark as well as the district. And, it would circumvent as
667
well as prevent more appropriate solutions that have been
668
presented tonight and by staff. I'm not sure that drafty windows are
669
the issue when there's a large gap at the top sash that hasn't been
670
remedied so far so we really don't know how well the windows can
671
perform as is before we could find alternative solutions for storms.
672 Joann Sporleder:
Excuse me, but you have not stated specifically what part of the
673
standards apply here.
674 Tim Klusczinski:
I think that I could just call to reference everything that I read
675
during the presentation. The windows aren't deteriorated beyond
676
repair, that is a specific element that I have a problem with, but
677
that is not the only thing.
678 Lynn Patrick:
We are voting on our motion to deny, so I'd like to deny so I vote
679
yay in order to deny. I vote yay to support the motion to deny. The
680
windows are not deteriorated beyond repair. These windows are
681
significant to one of THE most important houses in Chapin Park,
682
there is no damage to the public and continuing to seek a solution,
683
I don't believe what's been presented today is a solution and
684
hardship to the petitioner is minimal. You have a very large house,
685
one area with problems with the windows and it's interesting that
686
no attempt has been made to affect any repair. There's no way I
687
could in good conscious vote that these windows be replaced.
688 Linda Riley: I vote against the motion.
689 Tim Klusczinski: Mary Jane?
690 Mary Jane Chase: I abstain for two reasons; 1. the problem is that all the answers
691 were in double pane glass when I keep reading about weather
692 stripping, the drafts and we're both a little responsible here.
693 Professor Enderle is responsible for this since 2004 and now we're
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694
in 2007 in the winter and that, to me, sounds neglectful. And we
695
have been neglectful in allowing this for to go on for this long.
696
Both of us have not done a job on those windows. Waiting three
697
years and always coming up in the winter season.
698
Lynn Patrick:
So you are abstaining?
699
Mary Jane Chase:
Abstaining, yes.
700
Lynn Patrick:
You didn't have to give a reason.
701
Mary Jane Chase:
But I wanted that down because I think that we've both let this go
702
ontoo long.
703 * Joann Sporleder: Well, Shawn then what happens? The motion again fails for lack of
704 a majority.
705 * Shawn Peterson: The Commission has not taken action at this point and you now
706 have to choose to take action at a subsequent meeting or later on
707 this meeting to take action. Or, you have 60 days per the
708 ordinance.
709 Joann Sporleder:
710 Shawn Peterson:
711 Joann Sporleder:
712 Tim Klusczinski:
713
714 Shawn Peterson:
715 . Joann Sporleder:
716 Tim Klusczinski:
717 Lynn Patrick:
718 Shawn Peterson:
For future action, who brings the action?
Who brings the action? As far as...?
Who brings it up at the subsequent meeting?
Any Commissioner can bring it up, unless we stage a particular
meeting for it and announce it in advance, right? .
Right.
So where does that leave the petitioner?
For 60 days, with air coming in.
Unless he wants to repair them in kind in the meantime.
At a subsequent meeting... {unintelligible}
719 Lynn Patrick: Very good.
720 Shawn Peterson: And ifs 60 days from the receipt of the application. So this
721 is... {unintelligible}
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722 Lynn Patrick: Yes, it says November 71h.
723 A conversation between Commissioners, counsel and petitioner ensues about the dates of
724 future regularly scheduled meetings and the procedures for notification and consideration
725 of the petition. Counsel invited the petitioner to submit additional relevant materials
726 before future consideration and Commissioner Ujdak committed to "calling around" to
727 get the information he'd promised the petitioner.
728 Approval of Minutes:
729 Linda Riley moved to approve the minutes of October 16th without changes. Mary Jane
730 Chase seconded. The vote to approve was unanimous.
731 Location Report:
732 Mary Jane Chase submitted the report, and has not discovered any abnormalities though
733 she didn't have the opportunity to discuss the report with Director Hostetler. Per President
734 Klusczinski, the report was received as presented.
735 Correspondence:
736 None.
737 Director's Report:
738 None. Should it have been omitted, President Klusczinski will ensure that it is included in
739 the packet for next month.
740 AD Report:
741 Distributed with packet via mail.
742 Legal Counsel:
743 None.
744 President's Report:
745 Will send in next month's packet. November 26th Common Council committee and full
746 council meetings regarding Marquette landmarking were announced. Interim protection
747 has lapsed by date.
748 Landmarks:
749 No report.
750 Nominating:
751 A slate of new officers is needed for action at the December meeting. Joann Sporleder,
752 Jerry Ujdak, Mary Jane Chase, Linda Riley and Lynn Patrick were asked to compose the
753 Nominating Committee, with Joann Sporleder serving as Chair. All accepted, save Linda
754 Riley who declined.
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755 Meeting Adjourned.
756 Attest:
757
758
759 Todd Zeiger,
760 Secretary, Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend & St. Joseph County
761 Date:
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763
764
765
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CITY OF SOUTH BEND
.:STEPHEN J. L,UECKE, MAYOR
OFFICE OF THE MAYOR .
December 5, 2007 •
Rev. Timothy Rouse, President
South Bend Common Council
227 W. Jefferson Blvd.
4`h Floor, County -City Building
South Bend, IN 46601
Re:Veto of Bill 61-07
Dear President Rouse:
On November 25, 2007 the South Bend Common Council passed Bill 61-07 by a vote of 5 -3 -
This bill, amended the zoning ordinance and established an historic landmark for the property located
at 1905. College, specifically'Marquette Primary Center and the property identified, by Tax Key '#
018-21164254.
The Common Council acted within its authority and best judgment. to designate this site as a
landmark... However, the Board of the South Bend Community School Corporation, another elected
body, has decided in its best judgment, that constructing anew building at.that site is in the best
interests of students and the community. Because of their decision, the School Corporation opposed
the effort to designate Marquette School and its surrounding property, as historic. I respect the
processes used and the conclusions reached by both bodies.
In addition, a public remonstrance was filed against the bond issue which would Tund several
SBCSC projects, including construction of a new Marquette School. The results of that "vote" are
not yet certified, but I believe that result should also carry weight in this decision.
After much deliberation and consultation with numerous individuals, both pro and con, I
have decided to veto Bi1161-07. My first.priority is that an elementary school remain at this location.
Though I personally would favor renovation of the existing building, I am keenly aware that historic
designation status does not guarantee that a school will remain in the building.. SBCSC can still .
move forward with new construction either on this lot, or at another location.'. Because the entire
parcel is designated, itmay be more difficult for the School Corp. to build on this lot.
COUNTY -CITY BUILDING • 227-'W. JEFFERSON BOULEVARD • SOUTH BEND, INDIANA 46601
PHONE 574/235-9261 • FAx 574/235-9892 • TDD 574/235-5567
Rev.. Timothy Rouse, President
December 5, 2007
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In addition, past practice of the Common Council has been to seek the consent of the owner
when designating a building as historic. I recognize that this is not required by Ordinance.or State
law; however it has generally led to better upkeep when the owner seeks the historic status. An
exception can be made for publicly owned buildings, but the owner's acceptance is important to the
success of landmarking. I note with pride that the School Corp. has successfully renovated several
schools in South Bend, including Jefferson, Madison and Adams. Renovation of Monroe School is
part of the work to be done with the proposed bond proceeds. I iecall that when the Historic
Preservation Commission sought historic-, designation for Madison School, the School Corp. did not
oppose that status. They have actively opposed such designation for Marquette.
I veto Bill 61-07 for the following reasons:
• It designates the entire parcel as historic rather than the building and a portion of land
around it.
• It does not have the support of the owner.
• The public remonstrance should cast the final vote in whether or not the School Corp.
can build a new school at this site.
As I veto this bill, I also have several requests concerning this site of the South Bend Community
School Corporation. - First, please maintain and operate a quality school at this location. Second,
though'I respect the process and due diligence used in choosing.to build a new school rather than
renovate the existing building, I do not believe that the general public is fully convinced that this is
the best choice. Also, some believe that there is new information which should be evaluated. So, I
respectfully request the School Corp. to revisit the analysis of costs to renovate Marquette and to also
take advantage of Bill Latoza's offer to share his experience with the Chicago School system. There
is time to do this "value engineering" of the decision before the bond is approved. It may lead to the
same conclusion, but residents will be assured that you have fully investigated all possible options.
Third, if.a new school is constructed at the site, please have the architecture complement the
neighborhood and site the building in. such a way that demolition of the existing school is not
required. Finally, if a new school is constructed, please be open to alternate uses for the existing
building. If a viable use is found, with financing and a feasible business plan, please cooperate with
a developer to help renovation of the building to succeed.
I appreciate the long hours, good intentions and difficult decisions by both the Common
Council and the School Corporation Board. Thank you for your dedication and hard work.
Sincerely,
to he�7auecCke�6-4
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Mayor
South Bend Common Council
Historic Preservation Commission
Dr. Robert Zimmerman
South Bend Community School Corporation Board
STAFF APPROVALS
THIRD CALENDAR QUARTER
July 7, 2007
1067 Riverside
Re -roof
July 18, 2007
10491tiverside
Rear bathroom vent fan
July 23, 2007
626 Park Ave
Re -roof
July 25, 2007
840 Park Ave
In-kind cedar siding replacement
July 30, 2007
1168 LWW
In-kind roof and soffit
August 4, 2007
1204 E. Wayne N.
Re -roof
August 6, 2007
318 W. Navarre
Reposition back steps behind
fence
August 9, 2007 511 Riverside Dr.
August 13, 2007 425 W. No.shore
August 13, 2007 128 W. No.shore
August 20, 2007 531 Edgewater
August 14, 2007 Leeper West
August 20, 2007 1614 E. Wayne
August 27, 2007 616 Park Ave.
August 27, 2007: 802 Portage
August 28, 2007 856 Forest
August 30, 2007 1138 E. Wayne S.
September 5, 2007 337 W. No.shore
September 6, 2007 616 Park Ave.
September 12, 2007 1212 E. Jefferson
September 17, 2007 Leeper West
September 17, 2007 624 Portage
September 21, 2007 1303 E. Wayne
617 Park
September 26, 2007 202 Hammond
September 26, 2007 1212 E. Jefferson
In-kind window replacement
Slate roof repair in dormer
Dormer re -roof
In-kind windows per 10/2000 COA
Tree removal per City Forester
In-kind brick porch/planter repair
In-kind brickleoncrete repair
Re -roof
In-kind Chimney replacement'
In-kind fence replacement
Re -roof
In-kind side stoop reconstruction
In-kind fence replacement
Tree removal per City Forester
Re -roof
Tree Replacement
Tree Replacement
In-kind gutters and fence
In-kind gutters
CITY OF SOUTH BEND, ST. JOSEPH COUNTY AND THE HPC
SEPTEMBER 30, 2007
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS:
2002
86 2006 96
2003
94 2007 148
2004
115
2005
249
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS:
2005 80 CITY OF SOUTH BEND 1 ST. JOSEPH COUNTY
2006 105 3
2007 88 3
106 REVIEWS:
2006 3 CITY OF SOUTH BEND 1 1 ST. JOSEPH COUNTY
2007 3 6
INVENTORY
STRUCTURES IN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS:
1,667 IN CITY OF SOUTH BEND 0 IN ST. JOSEPH COUNTY
SINGLE SITE NATIONAL REGISTER LANDMARKS:
32 IN CITY OF SOUTH BEND 2 IN ST. JOSEPH COUNTY
STRUCTURES IN LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS:
748 IN CITY OF SOUTH BEND O IN ST. JOSEPH COUNTY
LOCAL LANDMARKS:
129 IN CITY OF SOUTH BEND 73 IN ST. JOSEPH COUNTY
MARQUETTE SCHOOL IN PROCESS
LOST 1 114 LWW
DIRECTOR'SREPORT
NOVEMBER,2007
October 18-20 Cornelius O'Brien Conference in Richmond, Indiana
October 23 Parks meeting with Marti Lewis concerning the Potawatomie
Conservatories and Green houses
Tour of Marquette School with the School Board and Members of the
Common Council and Bill Latoza.
October 29 Interview with WSBT on Marquette School
October 30 106 Review and Support Letter for WNIT for Grant
Meeting with Bonnie Strycker, Executive Director Youth Services
Bureau and potential changes to holdings in the LincolnWay East LHD
October 31 Department Head Healthcare Meeting with Phyllis Emmons
November 1 . Submitted Out of Line transfers for approval. Began the annual CLG
Reports for DHPA in Indianapolis.
November 2 Attended Redevelopment Commission meeting concerning the Eddy
Street Commons; Coveleski Development proposal with the City acquiring 21 additional
properties for redevelopment.
November 6 2 hour meeting with parks concerning the Conservatories at
Potawatomie Park with Marti Lewis, Term DeRosa, Zoo Director and MatthewMoyers
November 7 Completed the editing of the Survey and sent out via Overnight mail.
This was an on going process that the Staff dedicated considerable time and effort to correcting
and completing. Have made recommendations to DHPA for future Surveys of South Bend to be
completed over a longer period of time by local people so that the inaccuracies of the past surveys
can be addressed.
November 8 Interview (TV) with WSBT at Marquette School. Executive Committee
Meeting of the Botanical Society.
November 9 Don Fozo's Retirement.
November 12 Zoning and Annexation Committee Meeting on the Landmarking of
Marquette School. Action tabled until November 26, 2007. .
November 13 Chicora Foundations presentation on the City Cemetery.
November 14 Guest Speaker on Historic Preservation for Elk's Auxiliary. HPC
received a $50_00 fee which was deposited to our gift line item.
November 1G Completed the CLG Reports for South Bend and St. Joseph County and
sent them to Steve Kennedy at the DHPA in Indianapolis.
Save the.-DdW
April 2008
April 23: Historic Preservation Review Board Meeting, Indianapolis. Contact the DHPA for more
information, 317/232-3494
April 27 -May 1: American Association ofMuseumsAnnual Meeting and Museum Expo, Denver, CO.
www.aaxn-us.org
May 2008 . I I
May: National Historic Preservation Monthstatewide events. www.in.eov/dnr/historic
May 30 - 31: Beginners Cemetery Preservation Workshop, Indianapolis. Contact the DBPA for more
information3lV234-1268-
Date TBA: CAW - Training for Historic Preservation Commission Members and Staff. For more infor-
mation, contact the D]HPAat 317/232-6981.
June 2008
June 19: Juneteenth, statewide events celebrating the emancipation of the enslaved. Contact your local
libraryor historical.society for events in your community.
June 19-22: Association for Gravestone. Studies Annual Meeting, Amherst, MA.
www gravestonestudies.ore,
July 7008
July 1649: League offlistoric American Theaters Annual Conference, Boston, MA, www lhat.org-
July 23: Historic Preservation Review Board Meeting, Indianapolis. Contact the DIHPA for more informa-
tion, 317/232-3494.
August 2008
August 30: Advan6ed Cemetery Preservation Worskshop, Indianapolis. Contact the DBPAfor more
information, 317/234-1268.
September 2008
September. IndianaArchaeology Month, statewide events. www m.gov/dnr/historidarcheomondLhtn-A.
October 2008
October 10 -11: National Underground Railroad Conference, Philadelphia. Contact the Underground
Railroad Research Institute formore information. www umfi.orPJ.
October l6-18: Cornelius O'Brien Conference on Historic Preservation and the Indiana Main Street
Conference, Bloomington—Contact the DHPA for more information, 317/232-3494.
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Directors Report
December, 2007
Marquette School, Marquette School, Marquette School...did I mention Marquette
School? Many meetings and hours were devoted to the landmarking of Marquette.
These included meetings with the President of the Common Council, Common Council
members, representatives from the School Board and the Superintendent and then joint
meetings with Common Council members, the Superintendent and HPC.
I completed year-end budget review process to maximize the benefits to the HPC for
equipment and technology for presentations and workshops. Wayne researched the
internet for the type of equipment necessary.
Continued work in support of the Conservatories at Potawatomi Park with the Botanical
Society of South Bend. Applied for grant for the Conservatories and was awarded an
$18,000.00 matching grant. Match is to be raised by April 1, 2008.
Looking Ahead:
Wayne is already putting together several workshops for 2008 including at least two on
Windows and one on re -pointing and mortar.
Amy is putting together the pod -cast walking tour of West Washington.
Amy and Jennifer from HLFI are developing the Restore Michiana Program for March 8.
Southhold Awards?
Suggested Goals for HPC in 2008
The Preservation Plan
The Advisory Board—needs a mission statement, direction and implementation
2009 Calendars: highlighting the downtown B&Bs. HPC will partner with B&Bs in the
development and distribution.
Continuation of the Six -At -Risk
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Assistant Director's Report
HPC Meeting —12-17-2007
■ 2+ weeks off for recovery time from surgery. Many thanks to Director
Hostetler for facilitating my working from home to extend my recovery
time.
■ Attended first Restore Michiana planning meeting for 2008.
■ Attended Redevelopment Commission meeting.
■ Completed paperwork for Cornelius O'Brien grant regarding Chicora
Foundation visit.
■ Contacted Code Enforcement regarding issues in Taylor's Field and with
local landmark located on N. William Street.
■ Prepared November meeting minutes.
■ Met with Auditor Mike Eby.
■ Continued research on City Cemetery Trust fund.
■ Met with People's Church and roofer Mike Smith to begin roof work.
■ Prepared and mailed art appraiser Leslie Hindman information about
cross piece at People's Church.
■ Met with Melanie Trowbridge of Parks Dept to continue planning for
Winter Carnival- City Celebration. Visited Howard Park Ice Rink.
■ Completed and submitted Cornelius O'Brien grant application for
Botanical Society of South Bend.
■ Created ND event flyer.
■ Prepared and submitted Winter newsletter.
■ Attended Common Council meeting 12/10.
■ Attended DAR luncheon 12/14 as invited guest.
■ Attended ND student's presentation on St. Paul's Memorial Methodist
Church.
Presentation of the Application by Georges Enderle
to the Historic Preservation Commission on November 19, 2007
Introduction
As you all know, my house is a beautiful building, and I feel a heavy responsibility to preserve
the unique character of my house. But the windows are deteriorating severely and need repair.
Since September 2006 I have been discussing=my,window problem with the Historic Preservation
Commission many times and, in the process, I have learned quite, a lot about windows. Including
the visits of some commissioners to my house, we.had six meetings. So today is our seventh
meeting. Unfortunately, we could not find a solution so far.
My application:
Four Marvin replacement windows in the bay area: wood ultimate insert or wood tilt pacs with
vinyl jamb liners, double hung, double pan, upgraded to Low E II with Argon gas.
To be clear, my proposal concerns only the four windows in the bay area of the dining room. The
replacement windows (inserts or tilt pacs) are of high quality, in wood, without aluminum clad,
and double pan. Neither interior nor exterior storm windows are required. In my view, they meet
the essential criteria of sustainability and authenticity to address my window problem.
Why?
The windows cannot "restored in-situ" as the staff report says. Rather, they have to be take out,
repaired in another location while the dining room is exposed to bad weather, and then moved in
again.
There are three options we have examined in our discussions. However, none of them is
acceptable.
First option: To install a second ulass on the existing restored single pan windows. This is not
possible because the size of my windows is too big and the strength of the windows would be
impaired severely.
Second option: Interior storm windows could be installed, technically speaking. But this decision
is at the discretion of the occupant and I do not want interior storm windows. Because they
substantially impair the aesthetics of the dining room and need to be removed and reinstalled in
spring and fall respectively, hence reducing my quality of life.
Third option: Exterior storm windows. But they are technically not feasible in the bay area.
Moreover, they would harm the current historic aesthetics of the exterior of this area.
Furthermore, my house never had exterior storm windows. How then could the Historic
Preservation Commission require installing something new that is alien to my historic house?
Because none of these three options is acceptable and no other proposal was offered by the
Commission (see my letter of November 6 to Mrs. Hostetler answering her letter of October 24),
I cannot but ask for the proposal of four Marvin replacement windows as wood ultimate inserts
or wood tilt pacs.
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MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
OF SOUTH BEND & SAINT JOSEPH COUNTY
December 17, 2007
13`h Floor Conference Room
County — City Building, South Bend, Indiana
Members Present: Joann Sporleder, Timothy Klusczinski, Mary Jane Chase, Lynn Patrick, Linda
Riley (late arrival), Jerry Ujdak, Todd Zeiger
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Catherine Hostetler, Amy Herdman, Shawn Peterson
Also Present: Don Sporleder, Kevin Wilson
CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL: President Tim Klusczinski called to order at 7:05 pm
I. PUBLIC HEARING
Application Number: 2007-1120A
Property Location: 1344 E. Wayne Street South
Property Owner: Kevin Wilson
Landmark or District Designation: East Wayne Street LHD
Rating: Contributing
STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT: This 1925 Colonial Revival house
was built by Whitcomb and Keller and sold to Ruth and Anton W. Peterson in 1927. Mr. Peterson was
president of Peterson Battery and Ignition Company located at 321-325 Lafayette. Mrs. Peterson was a
nurse and director of the Nurse's Registry for St. Joseph County. This house had eight additional
owners before it was purchased in 1995 by Kevin Wilson
APPLICATION ITEMS: To demolish non -original 2'/2 car garage and replace with new 3 car
garage tying in with existing concrete slab. The garage will be built in a style and with materials to
compliment the house. Please see attached drawings and site plan.
STANDARDS FOR EAST WAYNE STREET: III NEW CONSTRUCTION, C. SHED AND
ACCESSORY BUILDINGS: Accessory buildings are those structures that serve a specific
subordinate function to the residence. These include garages, carports and storage sheds. All of the
accessory buildings are located in the rear yard. Most of the garages were designed in an architectural
style related to the residence and were constructed at the same time as the residence.
REQUIRED: Accessory buildings shall be located at the rear of the property and as unobtrusively as
possible while preserving historical relationships between buildings, landscape features'and open
spaces. Proportions and materials shall conform to those required for new construction.
RECOMMENDED: Accessory building designs should be compatible in character and mood to the
residence and the neighborhood.
RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends approval. The proposed garage will replace a non -
original structure. It will be in a style and scale to the house and located at the rear of the property and
not visible from the street.
Klusczinski: Did you have an opportunity to sign in? Ok. Please pull up a chair closer
hereto get you closer to the mic. And if you would also state your name and address for
the record.
Wilson: Yes, thank you. Kevin Wilson, 1344 E Wayne Street South, South Bend.
Klusczinski: Would you care to make a briefpresentation on your C ofA?
Wilson: As Mrs. Hostetler pointed out, I was proposing to demolish the existing 21/2 car
garage and replace it with a new 3 car garage in the style matching as close as I can to the
home. Again, it is back off of the, from the visibility from the street, but I will make it as
attractive and like the home as I possibly can. I love my home.
Klusezinski: Thank you. Any Commissioners with questions for the petitioner?
Ujdak: Yes, the entrance to the garage will be way of driveway?
Wilson: Yes. It's actually a vacated alley that's just pea gravel. That is a shared drive for
myself and my neighbor to the west of me.
'Ujdak: Oh, okso it doesn't come offfrom the street?
Wilson: Yes, it does, well no... the garage is back, but yes to enter it's....
Ujdak: Really from the back?
Wilson: No, there is no entrance from the back. You have to enter from the front, from
East Wayne Street, yes.
Ujdak: And the driveway is where then?
Wilson: It's to the west of my lot, yes. At the top, yes. (gesturing to diagram)
Klusezinski: Let the record reflect that Linda Riley has joined us mid -session. Todd you
had a question?
Zeiger: Yeah, just a couple quick questions, just to verify, I'm sorry I couldn't see it very
clearly, so the dashed lines 'on the survey... these dashed lines are your driveway then?
Wilson: Yes, and with this you can kind of see where the street lies here. Yes and here's
the existing...
Zeiger: So the extra 10 ft is going to come this way towards the house?
Wilson: No, it's going to come this way towards the back. There's a vacated alley behind
the property, 7ft I own, 7ft the gentleman behind me owns, and we've already worked out
the agreement that I will purchase that vacated half of the alley.
Zeiger: So there's 14 (ft) and you'll take 10 of it?
Wilson: Yes, which gives me a little room to go that way. The backyard is so small...
Zeiger: Yes, that's what I was asking. Also can you clarify what are going to be the finish
materials on the outside? I didn't, or I missed that.
Chase: I didn't see that either.
Zeiger: What's the finish material going to be, and what's the finish material on the
house?
Wilson: It's a cedar shake on the home, it was actually aluminum sided when I purchased
it, and a number of years ago I decided to take the siding off and when I saw the cedar
shake it was very nice. It certainly took some work and expense to repair it and paint it,
and obviously there will be maintenance over years but it was very nice and I'd like to keep
that look to the house. I've been complimented on the home over the number of years. I
did bring an estimate from my contractor showing the application of siding, vinyl siding,
the cedar shake simulated siding, the cement siding, and the clapboards. I'm afraid that I
don't have enough copies for everyone, but I do have some copies. Obviously, expense is
only going to allow me certain choices, I would like to side it with a nice vinyl, in the same
color as the home...
Ujdak: But a cedar shake, a shake shape?
Wilson: No, if you'll look at the pricing, it's almost double the cost and that would be
prohibitive for me to simulate that appearance. Again, it is set back off the street where it
wouldn't be visible by any passerby. I can't afford to spend double the price to have that
done, and I would like to use a very nice vinyl in the same color, to do as best that I can to
replicate the home.
Riley: Kevin, was there any objection about this from your neighbor to the west about this
easement?
Wilson: No, there was not.
Riley: She got a notice about it?
Wilson: Yes she did.
Riley: Did you ever talk to her about it?
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Wilson: I mentioned it to her boyfriend and so far, and I know that it's really the mother
that owns the home. I hardly ever meet her mother or her father, but when I've spoken to
them in the past and told them that I was planning to build a garage they said that it was
fine. So, I haven't heard anything, but then sometimes you don't hear anything as you
know.
Uj dak: What's the current garage siding?
Wilson: I believe its clapboard.
Sporleder: So which one of these sidings were you going to use?
Wilson: I was probably going to choose the $3700.00 estimate because the reveal is Sin
rather than 4, and again I'd like the color to match the color of the home.
Sporleder: So it will look like siding, it won't look like shakes?
Wilson: No, it won't look like cedar shakes, no.
Sporleder: With the regular horizontal...
Wilson: Well actually the shakes have that same appearance too, its just the grain look...
Sporleder: Uh huh, and this does not have that grained look.
Wilson: No.
Sporleder: I had another question. I wanted to pickup on what Todd said on the location
in the back. So, the doors in the picture are where, on which side?
Wilson: Currently, it is on the west, there's a double door here, and that won't change, the
only difference will be that this will be extended '1 Ofback and there will be a 2 car garage
door here and a single here. Everything else will be the same.
Sporleder: And there's enough room for pulling out and turning around?
Wilson: Yes, there is.
Sporleder: The other question that I was going to have was that, that you're going to
purchase this, relative to the set back requirements of the city.
Wilson: Yes, I have variances that I'll discuss this week, and the variance that I have here
is to be a foot from the property line here and I have plenty of room here, but then again
I'll be a foot from this corner, and I'll be fine here.
Sporleder: That looks quite tight.
Wilson: Right, but once I get his 7 ft, I have my 7 ft. and I only really need 10 of that. I'll
be fine.
Klusezinski: Any other questions for the petitioner? Hearing none. We move to .
Commission discussion. Any comments or discussion?
Riley: Are we deciding on the material that he's going to use?
Sporleder: Here, pass this down to Linda please.
Riley: We have one here.
Zeiger: My only comment, what I was trying to get at, was some of the detailing, and
maybe we should have asked it, but the devil is always in the details. I was just wondering
about the trim on your house, does it have corner boards or does the cedar come right up
to the corners?
Wilson: No, and I did want to make sure that windows had the same, whatever types of
panes that is...
Riley: The mullions.
Wilson: Is that what they're called? Where instead ofjust a window it looks nice with little
squares cut out. Anything that I can do to replicate the home, I would certainly do.
There's only going to be two windows in the garage, but....
Zeiger: That was my only comment.
Riley: What about, I mean do we determine the siding that he's going to use? We approve
that?
Wilson: I was going to use, not the least, but the next more expensive- the double S inch.
Riley: Vinyl siding?
Wilson: Yes, the double S inch, which is a little more expensive than the 4in and will better
replicate the appearance of the home as it's a little wider.
Klusczinski: And would you be willing to amend your C ofA at this time with that
particular detail?
Wilson: Yes, I'd like to. I will be able to do that siding.
Klusczinski: Just to give us something concrete to consider.
Wilson: Thank you, yes.
Klusczinski: Any other discussion? Moving on to public hearing. Is there anyone that
wishes to speak in support of the petition? Hearing none, seeing none. Is there any
member of the public wishing to speak in opposition? Also hearing none and seeing none,
the chair closes public hearing. Any final comments?
Wilson: I thank you for time, and hope that I can create a beautiful addition to my home.
Klusczinksi : The chair will entertain a motion.
Chase: I'll make a motion that we accept 2007-1128 as amended to stipulate that the
siding will be the S inch profile.
Riley: Second.
Klusczinski: Motion has been made and seconded, any other questions?
Moved: Chase . Second: Riley
To approve C of A 2007-1128 Approved Unanimously
As amended (with consent of petitioner)
Application Number 2007-1107
Property Location: 710 Park Avenue
Property Owner: Georges Enderle
Landmark or District Designation: Chapin Park LHD, CPNRD, Local Landmark
Rating: Outstanding
This C of A was heard at previous meeting (11/19/2007) but no final action was taken. Due to a
previous obligation out of the country, the petitioner was not able to be present at this meeting.
HPC Legal Counsel, Shawn Peterson, was contacted via email by Attorney Robert E. Rodes,
representing the petitioner. The petitioner, via Mr. Rodes, requested a continuance of this matter.
Commissioners discussed the merits of a continuance, including whether or not a modification
suggested conversationally at the previous meeting of the HPC (see Minutes 11/19/2007) had the
consent of the petitioner, i.e....if the petitioner was amenable to modifying his petition as briefly
mentioned during the meeting, is it even necessary to continue 2007-1107, or should it be modified
to reflect the suggested change.
It was determined that the petitioner had not been formally asked to consent to the modification at
the meeting of 11/19/2007, nor was the petitioner nor his counsel present at this meeting to consent,
therefore consideration of a continuance of 2007-1107 is appropriate. ,
Moved: Ujdak Second: Sporleder
To Continue 2007-1107 Approved 5-2
Klusczinski, Patrick dissenting
C of A 2007-1107 is continued until the regularly scheduled meeting of the HPC on January 28,
2007 (a week later than usual due to MLK holiday) at 7:00 p.m., 13"' floor, County City Building.
Any modifications, changes, or addendums to C of A 2007-1107 must be received by staff at
or before 12 NOON ON JANUARY 17TH, 2008.
B. LANDMARKS — None.
II. REGULAR BUSINESS
A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES November 19, 2007
With the corrections pointed out by Commissioner Sporleder.
Moved: Ujdak Second: Chase
Approved Unanimously
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B.
TREASURER'S REPORT
Accepted into the record as presented.
C.
STAFF REPORTS
1.
Correspondence
Two thank you notes were shared with Commissioners.
2.
Director — Catherine Hostetler
Distributed to Commission.
3.
Assistant Director — Amy Herdman
Distributed to Commission.
4.
Legal Counsel — Shawn Peterson
None.
D. COMMITTEE REPORTS
1. President's Report — Tim Klusczinski
President Klusczinski reports that he's often approached and asked if in fact
Marquette is "safe?". The short answer is that for now it is, and President
Klusczinski wishes to thank and congratulate all of those on the HPC, or affiliated
with the HPC who contributed to this effort. President Klusczinski reviewed the
most recent developments in the effort: Common Council votes 5-3 to designate
Marquette a historic landmark on November 26, 2007, Mayor Luecke issues a letter
to Common Council on December 5, 2007 detailing his intent to veto the landmark
status and enumerating his rationale, by a 6-3 vote on December 10, 2007 Common
Council nullified the Mayor's veto per the legal opinion submitted to them by their
appointed counsel; and so for now, Marquette is "safe". President Klusczinski and
Director Hostetler participated in a meeting with the SBCSC and members of
Common Council to attempt compromise on this matter. During those meetings it
was suggested that non-contributing additions at Marquette could be removed, as
well as the deteriorating chimney, as a measure of compromise and progress.
Despite that, and despite the mayor's directive (in the text of his veto explanation)
to revisit the option of renovation and to perform more extensive "value
engineering" before the bond is considered in February, SBCSC continues to
pursue new construction exclusively. President Klusczinski also wished everyone
very happy holidays.
2. Nominating Committee — Joann Sporleder, Chair
Chairwoman Sporleder reported that the Nominating Committee met on Tuesday
December 4`t' at 12N. Commissioners Sporleder, Chase, and Patrick were in
attendance. The following slate of officers is presented by the committee: Tim
Klusczinski, President, Lynn Patrick, Vice President, Mary Jane Chase, Treasurer,
Jerry Ujdak, Secretary.
Moved: Sporleder Second: Zeiger
To elect 2008 officers as presented. Approved Unanimously
III. OLD BUSINESS
Advisory Board — VP Patrick was asked about progress in contacting and meeting with
those that had accepted a seat on the Advisory Board (as discussed at the 10/15/07 meeting
of the HPC). VP Patrick has only been able to contact 2 out of approximately 18 that
accepted and agreed to serve on the Advisory Board. VP Patrick is aware of an interested
-candidate for the soon -to -be -vacant Architectural Historian seat on the Commission.
IV. NEW BUSINESS
V. HEARING OF VISITORS
Don Sporleder was recognized and wished everyone a Merry Christmas.
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268 ADJOURNMENT 8:28 pm
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275 Secretary, Historic reservation Commission of South Bend & St. Joseph County
Patrick
Unanimously
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