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HomeMy WebLinkAboutAugust 2007WSSIOV 013TH OF'"' GUST , ,' , :'AGENDA 1TRE :AU EET FETING ''Commi SSIONIM 1965 Regular Meeting THIRTEETH FLOOR- ROOM 1308 F. County-City Buildin MONDAY, A 20, 2007 7:OOPM CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL II. PUBLIC HEARING A. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS 1. 621 N. Lafayette COA#2007-0716 2. 1228 E. Wayne Street North COA#2007-0719 3. 102 N. Main Street COA#2007-0806A V;,.;= ".:. 4. 508 - 508 Lindsey COA#2007-0806B S. 730 Leland COA#2007-0806C B. LANDMARK C. NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION , 4 111 REGULAR BUSINESS �'= A APPROVAL OF MINUTES July 16, 2007 B. TREASURER'S REPORT Location Report C. STAFF REPORTS 1. Correspondence 2. C of A Approvals 3. Directors Report 'A 4. Assistant Director Report 5. Lega Counsel D. COMN I h R EPORTS: 1. President's Report IV. OLD BUSINESS V. NEW BUSINESS 1. Eric Kus of Therm -0-Cites TORS AND ADJOURNMENT VI. HEARING OF VISI STAFF REPORT CONCERNING APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS Date: August 9, 2007 Application Number: 2007 -0716 Property Location: 621 North Lafayette Property Owner: Allyson and Aaron Hinds Landmark or District Designation: Chapin Park NR/LHD Rating: Notable STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT: The Queen Anne Style House was built in 1888 by Stephen Fred Brown and his wife Christina, Mr. Brown was a machinist for Strayer's and eventually Studebaker. Fred Brown eventually left the house to Frederick and Vida Brown, a shaper operator for Studebaker. The house stayed in the Brown family until its sale to James Quinlan in the 1980s. The current owners are Allyson and Aaron Hinds. APPLICATION ITEM; To recreate the Original Front Porch, attach to sill -plate at base, with lean -to roof until end of porch and then a full roofline fagade to create something much like the porch shown in the COA illustration. The construction would be all wood. STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES; II Existing Structures, D. Entrances, Porches and Steps Required: When deteriorated beyond repair, existing or original porches, stoops, patios and steps including handrails, balusters, columns, brackets, tiles and roof decorations shall be retained or replace by replicas of the same design or by a design more in keeping with the historic period of the structure. STAFF RECOMMENDATION,: Staff recommends approval of the concept as the project proposed will replicate an original feature of the house in an appropriate period style and replace a non contributing structure. '�Nw Application - FOR - Certificate of Appropriateness Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend & St. Joseph County 125 S. Lafayette Blvd., South Bend, Indiana 46601 Mailing Address: County-City Building, South Bend, Indiana 46601 Phone: 574 -235 -9798 • Fax: 574 -235 -9578 • Email: SBSJCHPC ®co.st joseph.in'us Website: http://www.sqoselihcountyindiana.com/sjchp/il OFFICE USE ONLY » »» DO NOT COMPLETE ANY ENTRIES CONTAINED IN THIS BOX » »» OFFICE USE ONLY Date Received 14 (" ,ZOO � Application Number oZ O Past Reviews: E] YES (Date of Last Review) Staff Approval authorized by: Historic Commission Review D F] Local Landmark National Landmark Certificate of Appropriateness: Denied [:] Tabled E] NO Title: ate: 0f 00 7 [cal Historic District (Name) O ational Register District (Name) [] Sent To Committee [] Approved and Issued DATE Address of Property for proposed work: Strt umb r rtd Street Name. Name of Property Owner(s) (Please Print) Address of Property O ner(s): Contractor(s) Name: Z rv�� Contract Company Name: -� Contractor Address: City: Phone: Current Use of Building: (Single amity — Multi- Family — Cotrtrttercial — Government — Industrial — Vacant —etc.) Type of Building Construction: (Wand Frame —Brick —Stone — steel — Concrete — Other) Proposed Work: [] In -kind E] Landscape MNew ITReplacement (not in- kind) [] Demolition (rrtore than one box may be checked) Description Pr posed Work: Owner /Contractor: Fax: e-mail (This of�i rres nd with only one d • nee) and /or y. — APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS ARE LISTED ON REVERSE SIDE — .p.?ci5�t�t WRA �l� WtOIL 40 -fit - r� � z `— �., s�►(- P�;�.e,, d� �l� he�se, way �o 6w Z, ro OAJ Y ovf�A ngA (O-v Pre-, 0/1 A a� rove _ Iti.ov �x- �' `7 �.za -w a4lJ tvi "LeOn� >+D° I L- -fi� M a A KI y,. 6it4'd'�,± , wt9, w9; +�'it;a`4a :5p� e % � �;,., �,•�� ��� 0 F ° sv • i a � <. a'd .. .[r 1 _�.1h ��„1yy'�t'F xw' 4 • r t " -.a _ ,lip ry n •V Yo b Y 1 O r ^. O IAK � e � P a Ll Y Y C9 V V Y• t D O� / J v * � + 4 V 4 1� ! CD 67S 4�S n N V �+ t l f 11 4w, .: STAFF REPORT CONCERNING APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS Date: August 9, 2007 Application Number: 2007 -0719 Property Location: - 1228 E. Wayne Street North Property Owner: Colleen and Martin Ingelsby Landmark or District Designation: E. Wayne Street LHD Rating: Contributing STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE /HISTORIC CONTEXT: This Colonial Revival residence was built in 1927 for Roy W. and Luella Kilmer. Mr. Kilmer was a paneler at Studebaker. The house is believed to have remained in the Kilmer family until 1966 when it was sold to John J. and Margaret Loughlin, a teacher at Adams High School. It is currently owned by Colleen and Martin Ingelsby. APPLICATION ITEM: Remove Crab Apple Tree in front yard. Tree blocks view of home, blocks sunlight to other landscape features. Landscape Company suggested removal to preserve other trees/bushes /lawns. Also to remove front bushes to be replaced with more appropriately sized landscape. Will use recommendations from Historic Guide Book STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES: I The Enviornment, B.Building Site, Landscaping and Accessories: Required: Major landscaping items, fencing, walkways, private yard lights, signs (house numbers) and benches which reflect the properties history and development shall be retained. Dominant land contours shall be retained... Recommended: New Site work should be based upon actual knowledge of the past appearance of the property found in photographs, drawing and newspapers. New site work should be appropriate to the existing surrounding site elements in scale, type and appearance. Plant materials and trees in close proximity to the building that are causing deterioration to the building's historic fabric should be removed. However, trees and plant materials that must be removed should be immediately replaced by suitable flora. Appendix B Landscape Assessment Summary is attached for reference. STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends approval. The crab apple tree is interfering with the landscaping in the lawn and the view of the house from the street. The old overgrown, front bushes will be replaced with more appropriate bushes. Application - FOR - Certificate of Appropriateness Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend & St. Joseph County 125 S. Lafayette Blvd., South Bend, Indiana 46601 Mailing Address: County-City Building, South Bend, Indiana 46601 Phone: 574 -235 -9798 • Fax: 574 -235 -9578 • Email: SBSJCHFC ©cost joseph.in.us Website: http:/ /Www.sgosephcountyindiana.com /s chp /utdex.html OFFICE USE ONLY » »» DO NOT COMPLETE ANY ENTRIES CONTAINED IN THIS BOX » »» OFFICE USE ONLY k Ap Number .lea z - d 7L 9 / G Date Received ° PP Ir [] NO Past Reviews: D YES (Date of Lot Review) Staff Approval authorized by: Title: Historic Commission Review Date: u a� '� f Local Landmark ® Local Historic District (Name) D National Landmark f_� National Register District (Name) Certificate of Appropriateness: Denied [] Tabled � Sent To Committee [] Approved and Issued DATE Address of Property for proposed work: r a?? C' t�A �C- •- 1. /-364174 Street Number and Street Name. Name of Property Owner(s) (Please Print) Address of Property Owner(s): v Contractor(s) Name: Contract Company Name: Contractor Address: City: / Phone: Current Use of Building: Sin IL (` ingle Family — Multi-Fa — Cotmnercial — Government — Industrial — Vacant — etc.) Type of Building Construction: (Wood Frame — Brick —Stone —Steel — Concrete — Other) Proposed Work: E] In-kind Landscape E] New ❑ Replacement (not in kind) E] Demolition ; (mare than one box may be checked) Description of Proposed Work: ��� - - ---rr- Zrr ZALPS See L/( o�1�t2f3u5/#1 %Au/A11 A�sv �c�n ��riT �3u5�E� Owner /Contractor: Fax: e-mail / S (This o ce t correspo onI one designee) V �`' and /or y r� — APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS ARE LISTED ON REVERSE SIDE — East Wayne Street Local Historic District Guidebook APPENDIX B A Landscape Assessment Summary East Wayne Street Local Historic District possesses a character that has endured for decades and has maintained the most intact historic landscape of any of the Local Historic Districts. The flavor and ambiance should be maintained to ensure historic continuity. The use of hedges, ground cover and ornamental trees are the most obvious landscape elements that create a visual continuity throughout the district. Formal street tree plantings could enhance the district but are not neces- sary due to the presence of large trees in the front yards of most homes. The human scale of the neighborhood is a unifying factor that should be maintained through regulation if necessary. A grouping of oak and walnut trees is one element not as obvious as some but no less significant to the historical landscape. The large trees act as a back drop for the historic homes and also tie the neighborhood together. The use of hedges in combination with the architectural styles of the homes in East Wayne Street Local Historic District create a very formal atmosphere. In yards visible from the streets, fences as property dividers and privacy barriers should be prohibited, while the use of hedges for these pur- poses should be encouraged. The large trees in the front yards in combination with those in the tree lawns create a canopy enclosure that enhances the intimate human scale of the neighborhood. The street trees do not seem to create a line or visual connection in the manner of the trees in some dis- tricts; therefore, planting in the tree lawns is not imperative but would not be objectionable either. The use of one large tree in the front yard seems to be more characteristic of the neighborhood than formal street tree plantings. To preserve the character of the district, each residence should have either trees in the tree lawn or a large tree in the front yard. The use of ground cover rather than wood chips or decorative stone also adds to the formal design of the homes of the early 1920s. The use of Pachysandra (Pachysandra terminalis) and English Ivy (Hedera helix) should be encouraged while wood chips and decorative stone should be used in a limited fashion. Ornamental trees, such as the Flowering Dogwood (Cornus florida) and Flowering Crabapples (Malus) are the elements that add to the symmetry and structure of the district. While the use of ornamental trees is desir- able and adds to the formal atmosphere throughout the district, each lot should use only two or three to eliminate disruption of visual continuity. All of the elements discussed above combined with the architectural styles of the homes along East Wayne create an environment that is scaled to the human. The character of the elements should be maintained to insure the integrity of the human scale of the district. A stand of diverse varieties of oak trees runs from Sunnyside south of the district, to approximately 1630 East Wayne Street. An exciting find, these trees are native species with size and shape which suggests they were planted immediately after conclusion of construction. Because the land which became the Sunnymede Development in the 1870s was farm land, the idea that the trees are sur- vivors of development holds slim possibility. However, the size of the trees dates them at 80 to 90 years old. This fact could suggest that the Studebaker brothers, Jacob F. and John M., let the trees grow to enhance their subdivision and business venture. In any case, the number, location and visual effect of the trees is significant to the character and should be preserved. Page 57 Guidebook East Wayne Street Local Historic District The large trees behind the homes act as a backdrop for the historic homes and adds to the ambiance of the historic neighborhood. The effect of the canopy should be maintained with a tree- for -a -tree policy. When a tree is cut down due to damage, disease or age, then another of the same species or an acceptable alternate should replace it. The street trees present in the neighborhood include Norway Maples (Acer platenoides), Sugar Maples (Acer saccharum), Green Ash (Fraxinus pennsylvanica), White Ash (Fraxinus americana), Pin Oak (Quercus palastrus) and American Sweetgum (Liquidambar styraciflua). The combination is a nice mixture that should be continued. The planting of Flowering Crabapples and other orna- mentals within the tree lawn should be prohibited. Considering the character of East Wayne Street Local Historic District, this practice does not adhere to the concept of historic landscape preserva- tion for this area. The use of hedges, sizable shade trees, ground cover and ornamentals maintains the historic character of East Wayne Street Local Historic District. The historic landscape is the most intact of all the historic districts and should be maintained. Stringent guidelines regarding fences and ground cover materials (wood chips and decorative stone), as well as the number of ornamental and shade trees, may need to be put in place to maintain the character and scale of East Wayne Street Local Historic District. NOTE: East Wayne Street Local Historic District has a small park area located at the west fork in East Wayne Street that is not designated as a city park. The vegetation includes two trees that are considered historically significant due to their age. The area includes the following: Black Walnut Chinese Elm 2 Red Oak (one is significant) Mulberry (significant) Colorado Spruce 2 Colorado Blue Spruce 2 Flowering Crabapple 17 Yews 3 Crimson Pygmy Barberry 16 Bridalwreath Spirea (Juglans nigra) (Ulmus parviflora) (Quercus rubra) (Morus alba) (Picea pungens) (Picea pungens var. glauca) (Malus) (Taxus cuspidata) (Berberis thunbergil var. Atropurpurea) (Spirea prunifolia) A row of 5 Flowering Crabapples (Malus) are in a boulevard median at the east fork in East Wayne Street. SUGGESTED TREES FOR TREE LAWNS IN EAST WAYNE STREET LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT Norway Maple Sugar Maple White Ash Green Ash American Sweetgum Pin Oak (Acer platenoides) (Acer saccharum) (Fraxinus americana) (Fraxinum pennsylvanica) (Liquidambar styraciflua) (Quercus palustrus) Page 58 I C) C) CN K I , *- � \ � cu W ! co �; ������� 1228 E. Wayne N. July 17, 2007 STAFF REPORT CONCERNING APPLICATION FOR A' CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS Date: August 9, 2007 Application Number: 2007 -0806A Property Location:. 106 N. Main Street JMS Building Property Owner: John Friedline Landmark or District Designation: .Local Landmark in MRA National Register District Rating: Outstanding STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT: The JMS building was designed by noted Chicago architect, Solon Spencer Beman in 1910. It was commissioned by John Mohler Studebaker to be the best office building with fireproof construction- reinforced concrete, granite, terra cotta marble and fireproof tile. It was designated as a local landmark in 1998. APPLICATION ITEM: Install five non - illuminated awnings per enclosed renderings. Awnings are non - illuminated made with Sunbrella fabric on aluminum frame, closed ends and 6" valance per direction of DRB (Downtown Design Review Board) rep., Jim Markle. The awnings will be secured by tapping into pre existing aluminum tubing above the windows and not into the building. STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES: B Standards: F. Signs: No neon or flashing signs will be permitted unless they are original to the structure. Billboards and super - graphics will also be disallowed. Only one appropriate identifying sign will be permitted per business. STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends approval. The awnings will not be affixed to the main structure of the building. The awnings with their logo blend in with color and design with the modem portion of the fagade. Application - FOR - Certi ficate of Appropriateness Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend & St. Joseph County 125 S. Lafayette Blvd., South Bend, Indiana 46601 Mailing Address: County -City Building, South Bend, Indiana 46601 Phone: 574 -235 -9798 - Fax: 574 -235 -9578 - Emait SWCHPC&o.st joseph.in.us Website: http:/ /www.slosephcountyindiana.com /s chp /index.hbl I OFFICE USE ONLY >>>>>> DO NOT COMPLETE ANY ENTRIES CONTAINED IN THIS BOX » »» OFFICE USE ONLY Date Received Application Number 0 0 0 7- 6 G A Past Reviews: ❑ YES (mte of Lot Review) � NO Staff Approval authorized by: Title: Historic Commission Review Date: A U 0 7 Local Landmark F] Local Historic District (Name) F] National Landmark [] National Register District (Name) Certificate of Appropriateness: E] Denied E] Tabled ❑ Sent To Committee E] Approved and Issued DATE Address of Property for proposed work: Ij • .,/ �� ' i`.) S -rr , Street Number and Street Name Name of Property Owner(s) (Please Print) -, TC) I1na F e ' i e Address of Property Owner(s): �j tv r ) Contractor(s) Name: Q� �ro N � Contract Company Name: V S • :5; Contractor Address: Q 1 L L-' -- Col ti , L.,c. Ca•� City: 0:5Ceo I e\ I _�C/V gL56 1 ' Phone: 57V-6 Current Use of Building Va CaA V — 6� nn ev% (Single Family — Multi- Family — Commercial — Government — Industrial — Vacant — etc.) Type of Building Construction:) NvAJ - t ll"'" �.c,,�e �i �"f •,-, 5 (Wood Frame — Brick — Stone — Steel — Concrete — Other) Proposed Work: E] In -kind E] Landscape ,New E] Replacement ( not in -kind) Ej Demolition (none than one bar may be checked) ` Description of Proposed Work: i ,.: ��. �v.n �, < t L c, Uzi ,a r{ 1 %lv �,.•, � ..», c�.. �, (o s e P eA2+ E 6 IN F.1Z C)74 Owner /Contractor: Fax: 7Y - 6 7� � � e-mail 4c, P 1 -_ V5 : ,•�C'rti� : Le y? - (This officr d with only one designee) and /or _ — APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS ARE LISTED ON REVERSE SIDE — . L)ate: 8-6-07 All artwork remains the property of US Signaafters. Project: Unauthorized use of this artwork could result in copyright infringement Use of this artwork without Customer: Ugly Mugs Coffee House the written consent of US Signaafters Location: is strictly prohibited. Description: Shed style awning with closed ends. Non-illuminated with Art Approval: sunbrella fabric with applied graphics. Also has 6" valence at bottom Mm E Date: 8-6-2007 Project: Customer: Ugly Mugs Coffee House Location: Description: Main Street elevation. All artwork remains the property of US Signcrafters Unauthorized use of this artwork could result in copyright infringement. Use of this artwork without the written consent of US Signcrafters is strictly prohibited. Art Approval: * * 9 0 1 ' v ." Z>9 U F LI t7 7 ".T;- L El Ii * * 9 0 1 ' v EASTI 1*1 .... ....... us, "ER-9 PHONE (574) 674 -50551 FAX (574) 674-5255 WWW.til,"Si�ticr 216 Lincolnway East - Osceola, Indiana 46561 Z 7 11 r r U F LI t7 7 ".T;- EASTI 1*1 .... ....... us, "ER-9 PHONE (574) 674 -50551 FAX (574) 674-5255 WWW.til,"Si�ticr 216 Lincolnway East - Osceola, Indiana 46561 Z > Date: 8-3-07 Project: Customer: Ugly Mugs Coffee Location: Examples of other awnings in the area. r 5' Projection from Wall AO artwork remains the property of US Signcrafters. Unauthorized use of this artwork could result in copyright infringement. Use of this artwork without the written consent of US Signaafters is strictly prohibited. Art Approval: Other Business along Wash. 11 r5 .a 45" Projection Business Along Main Street F Adjacent Business other Business on Washington along Wash. x Y-1 11 PHONE (574) 674 -50551 FAX (574) 674 -5255 216 Lincoinway East - Osceola, Indiana 46561 Adjacent Business 54" Projection 36" Projection 36" Projection STAFF REPORT CONCERNING APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS Date: Augusi'9, 2007 Application Number: 2007 -0806B Property Location: 508 - 508 % Lindsey Property Owner: NNN Landmark or District Designation: Chapin Park LHD Rating: non contributing STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT: Bunker Young House is an American Four Square built between 1902 and 1903. Mr. Bunker was the Chief of Police for several years. APPLICATION ITEM: Removal of aluminum siding and replace with smooth cement fiber product to match lap, width and texture of original siding. STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES: II Existing Structures A. Building Materials Original exterior building materials in the district include brick, stucco, clapboard, wood shingles and brick or stone masonry. In some instances vinyl, composite and aluminum siding have been applied over the original material Required: Original exterior building materials shall be retained when possible. Deterioration of wood materials shall be presented though repair, cleaning and painting. The existing architectural detail around windows, porches, doors and eaves shall be retained or replaced by replicas of the same design when deteriorated beyond repair.... Recommended: Whenever possible, the original building materials should be restored. When maintaining or repairing original siding is not feasible aluminum, vinyl or composite siding may be used. When used over wood surfaces, the siding should be the same size and style as the original wood. Every effort should be made to retain original trim around windows, doors, cornices, gables, eaves and other architectural features.... STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Staff can not make a recommendation since it does not know the condition of the original siding and can not make a determination at this time. Staff requests that it be allowed to work with NNN to make recommendations and return its recommendations to either the Standards and Maintenance Committee or the Commission. Application - FOR - Certi ftcate of Appropriateness Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend & St. Joseph County 125 S. Lafayette Blvd., South Bend, Indiana 46601 Mailing Address: County -City Building, South Bend, Indiana 46601 Phone: 574 -235 -9798 • Fax: 574 - 235 -9578 • Email: SBSjCI-1PC@cost-josephin.us Website: http: / /www.sgosephcounVffidiana.com /sjchp /index.hbnl OFFICE USE ONLY » »» DO NOT COMPLETE ANY ENTRIES CONTUNED IN THIS BOX » »» OFFICE USE ONLY Date Received, 02 DD 7 Application Number a D O 7 - 4AI6 g Past Reviews: ❑ YES (Date of wt Review) ❑ NO Staff Approval authorized by: Title: Historic Commission Review Date: Q A00 ❑ Local Landmark ❑ Local Historic District (Name) Ej National Landmark E] National Register District (Name) Certificate of Appropriateness: ❑ Denied E] Tabled E] Sent To Committee ❑ Approved and Issued DATE l Address of Property for proposed work: ' `J� �� Li llmcl Street Number and Street Name Name of Property Owner(s): (Please Print) 'CP � fa th(c - Address of Property Owner(s): 0 • RDY, Contractor(s) Name: - hb - T - Contract Company Name: Contractor Address: City: Current Use of Building: Phone: (Single Family — Multi- Family — Commercial — Government — Industrial — Vacant — etc.) Type of Building Construction: \nICK3� 1"e Pt� (Wood Frame — Brick — Stone — Steel — Concrete — Other) Proposed Work: In -kind ❑ Landscape New Replacement ( not in -kind) [:] Demolition (more than one box may be checked) Description of Proposed Work: ! D►i�(G, P�7�li� � ZfyL 134 S" 6D114 — (, �..tta. [T �-►1 �2 °�� �C� i71 "Pm A 1,IV> vl lm " :fttl> -- rrFg a t' cxtc���It.U' Owner /Contractor: Fax: QsaZ - 1 R1 e -mail (This office will correspond with only one designee) kb3W I[@CrttF3=UA gWor VPd_e2d PWEL — APPLICATION REQEUREMENTS ARE LISTED ON REVERSE SIDE — 508 - 508 1/2 Lindsey CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS The Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend & St. Joseph County has reviewed the proposed work: Lynn A. Patrick, President REMOVE 1943 ADDITION, RETAIN TWO ORIGINAL WINDOWS FOR REUSE; REPLACEMENT OF REPLACEMENT WINDOWS WITH KOLBE &KOLBE ONE - OVER -ONE DOUBLE HUNG WOOD WINDOWS. PORCH REHABILITATION: REMOVAL OF CONCRETE PORCH FLOOR AND METAL SUPPORTS AND RAILINGS AND REPLACEMENT WITH WOOD TONGUE AND GROOVE FLOORING, BEAD BOARD CEILING, COLUMNS AND SPINDLES PER PHOTOS SUBMITTED. DETAILS OF PORCH AND REAR ELEVATION TO BE WORKED OUT WITH HPC STAFF. REMOVAL OF SECOND FRONT DOOR; IN -KIND REPLACE- MENT OF ROOF, GUTTERS AND SIDEWALK. CONTRACTOR -TBD. HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION OF SOUTH BEND 8L ST. JOSEPH COUNTY Phone: (574) 235 -9798 FAX: (574) 235 -9578 e -mail: SBSJCHPC@co.st-joseph.in.us for the following location: 508 - 508 1/2 Lindsey Chapin Park LHD COA #2005 -1207 A -B Extended 8/6/2007 in the County of St. Joseph; State of Indiana; which is: Located in a Local Historic District ❑A Local Historic Landmark and found this application to be appropriate according to the Standards pertaining to Local Historic Landmarks and/or Local Historic Districts. Regulations pertaining to the Historic Preservation Commission are found in Chapter 21 (Zoning), South Bend Municipal Code & Chapter 26 of the St. Joseph County Code. The issuance of this permit does NOT in any manner, release the recipient from the responsibility of complying with the requirements of the zoning ordinances, building codes, safety codes, ADA or other requirements of the City of South Bend, the County of St. Joseph, the State of Indiana, or the United States Federal Government. This permit is good for one year from the date of issuance and is effective from the date entered herein. Plans are on file and open for public inspection at the office of the Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend & St. Joseph County, 227 West Jefferson Blvd. RM 1123, South Bend, Indiana,during normal business hours. THIS PERMIT IS NOT TRANSFERABLE Catherine D. Hostetler, Director NAME OF APPLICANT: Near Northwest Neighborhood DATE PERMIT TAKES FORCE: 12/20/2005 PERMIT ISSUED BY: Catherine D. Hostetler, Director &)� POST IN A CONSPICUOUS PLACE ON THE STREET SIDE OF THE PROJECT UNTIL COMPLETION OF ALL WORK STAFF REPORT CONCERNING APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS Date: August 9, 2007 Application Number: 2007 -0806C Property Location: 730 Leland Property Owner: NNN Landmark or District Designation: Chapin Park LHD Rating: non contributing STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT,: Formerly 706 Leland, this Queen Anne house was built by 1894 probably for John Beyrer and his wife Flora. Mr. Beyrer was a contractor and gravel roofer for Ford Roofing Co and later established his own successful firm. John Beyrer and Sons Roofing Company roofed many of the Studebaker and Oliver plant buildings by 1922. APPLICATION ITEMS: 1. The existing windows have been previously replaced. The NNN will remove the existing windows and replace them with a Kolbe and Kolbe wood replacement window. 2. A number of additions to the structure will be removed in order to return the property back to its original footprints. This includes the removal of an addition of an enclosed stairway of the south side of the structure, the removal of the rear entrance, including addition and stairway on the north side of the structure and the removal of the addition to the wall on the west of the southeast porch, return to the original house wall. (See Attachment C.) After the additions are removed, the structure's roof line will be returned to the original roof line. 3. All existing roofing materials will be removed and a new 30 year architectural grade shingle will be applied. 4. The existing front porch will be removed including foundation. The porch will be replaced with a wood, tongue and grove flooring, bead board ceiling, columns and spindles similar to existing neighborhood housing stock. 5. The existing aluminum siding will be removed. The siding will be replaced with a smooth cement fiber product to match lap, width and texture of the original siding. 6. The existing gutter will be removed and a new gutter system will be installed to match the renovations. STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES: II Existing Structures A. Building Materials Original exterior building materials in the district include brick, stucco, clapboard, wood shingles and brick or stone masonry. In some instances vinyl, composite and aluminum siding have been applied over the original material Required: Original exterior building materials shall be retained when possible. Deterioration of wood materials shall be presented though repair, cleaning and painting. The existing architectural detail around windows, porches, doors and eaves shall be retained or replaced by replicas of the same design when deteriorated beyond repair.... Recommended: Whenever possible, the original building materials should be restored. When maintaining or repairing original siding is not feasible aluminum, vinyl or composite siding may be used. When used over wood surfaces, the siding should be the same size and style as the original wood. Every effort should be made to retain original trim around windows, doors, cornices, gables, eaves and other architectural features.... B.Roofs and Roofing: Recommended: The original shape and materials of the roof should be restored. Roof covering is deteriorated beyond repair should be replaced with new material that matches as closely as possible the original in composition, size, shape, color and texture. Gutters and downspouts are often a necessary adjunct in order to prevent deterioration of the structure; they should be maintained whenever possible or replaced with a style comparable and suitable to the architectural period. C. Windows and Doors: Required: Original windows and doors shall be retained including sashes, sills, shutters, decorative glass, pediments, hoods and hardware. When deteriorated beyond repair, they shall be replaced with units and trim resembling the original. Prohibited: Original doors, windows and hardware shall not be discarded when they can be restored and reused in place. New windows and door openings, which would alter the scale and proportion of the building may not be introduced. Inappropriate new window and door features such as metal, vinyl or fiberglass awnings, hoods or aluminum insulating glass combinations that require removal of original windows and doors shall not be installed. STAFF RECOMMENDATION,: 91. Staff does not recommend approval of this item as the windows appear to be original and only the storm windows are aluminum replacements. The original wood windows can be restored in place and new stone windows applied. #2. Staff recommends approval to the removal of the non original additions to the house footprint and the roof line. #3. Staff recommends approval of the complete tear off and re -roof. #4. Staff recommends approval of the porch restoration along the length and depth of the perceived original porch along the front of the house and its return to a style compatible to the age and style of the house and neighborhood. #5. Staff can not make a recommendation as it does not know the condition of the original material and can not make a determination at this time. Staff requests that it be allowed to work with NNN to make recommendations and return its recommendation to either the Standards and Maintenance Committee or the Commission. #6. Staff recommends approval of the replacement gutters and downspouts. Application - FOR - Certificate of Appropriateness Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend & St. Joseph County 125 S. Lafayette Blvd., South Bend, Indiana 46601 Mailing Address: County City Building, South Bend, Indiana 46601 Phone: 574 -235 -9798 • Fax: 574 -235 -9578 • Email: SBSjCHPC@co.st-joseph.in.us Website: http: / /www.sijosephcounVindiana.mm /s chp /indexhtm1 OFFICE USE ONLY » »» DO NOT COMPLETE ANY ENTRIES CONTAINED IN THIS BOX » »» OFFICE USE ONLY Date Received,- Application Number 56 OO 7 - d jD G di Past Reviews: F ITS (Date of Last Review) [] NO Staff Approval authorized by: Title: Historic Commission Review Date: 020 0 200 1 nn nn M Local Landmark [ 2oca1 Historic istrict (lvame) � ZM44 xJ Fj National Landmark F1 National Register District (Name) Certificate of Appropriateness: Denied E] Tabled f__j Sent To Committee F� Approved and Issued DATE Address of Property for proposed work: q3r�� Street Number and Street Name Name of Property Owner(s): (Please Print) C "17 tom' - ]IKIC..- Address of Property Owner(s): �• ���` >>C ���'r� = SS"t-4 �Idb IKi `t / (dl a "t Contractor(s) Name: ktr -l' ITS TtF,E3 ) 4s Contract Company Name: Contractor Address: City: Phone: Current Use of Building: vfTC.PrT-dr (Single Family - Multi - Family - Commercial - Government - Industrial - Vacant - etc.) Type of Building Construction: QorTJ Ar` er ( Wood Frame — Brick — Stone — Steel — Concrete — Other) Proposed Work: n In -kind E] Landscape n New E] Replacement (not in -kind) ❑ Demolition (more than one box may be checked) Description of Proposed Work: Owner /Contractor: Fax: a3,4 - 1 17 1 e -mail .CP4 (This office will correspond with only one designee) APPLICATION REQUIREMENT'S ARE LISTED ON REVERSE SIDE — Attachment A Description of Proposed Work The NNN plans to rehabilitate the property at 730 Leland (see Attachment B) and return it to a single family home. To accomplish this, the NNN is requesting permission to do the following: ■ The existing windows have been previously replaced. The NNN will remove the existing windows and replace them with a Kolbe and Kolbe wood replacement window. ■ A number of additions to the structure will be removed in order to return the property back to its original footprint. This includes: the removal of an addition of an enclosed stairway on the south side of the structure, the removal of the rear entrance, including addition and stairway on the north side of the structure, and the removal of the addition to the wall on the west of the southeast porch, return to the original house wall. (See Attachment C.) After the additions are removed, the structures roof line will be returned to the original roof line. ■ All existing roofing materials will be removed and a new 30 year architectural grade shingle will be applied. ■ The existing front porch will be removed including foundation. The porch will be replaced with a wood, tongue and grove flooring, bead board ceiling, columns and spindles similar to existing neighborhood housing stock. ■ The existing aluminum siding will be removed. The siding will be replaced with a smooth cement fiber product to match lap, width, and texture of the original siding. ■ The existing gutters will be removed and a new gutter system will be installed to match the renovations. vu ON ARM 57 wt A ll ,�tu`,F`z�:�y S�l l.,t�. �, j� \fJ: t 3��`�IkE� `e' �... - - "•r=3� � � � �' � ", S,t.viKj. Addition to be removed. Removal of an addition to the wall on the west side of the southeast porch. The porch will be returned to its original size and the wall will be returned it's original location. MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION OF SOUTH BEND & SAINT JOSEPH COUNTY July 16,2007— 13 1h Floor Conference Room County — City Building, South Bend, Indiana Members Present: Todd Zeiger, JoAnn Sporleder, Timothy Klusczinski, Martha Choitz, Mary Jane Chase, Jerry Ujdak, Lynn Patrick, Linda Riley, Joann Sporleder Staff Present: Catherine Hostetler, Amy Herdman, Shawn Peterson Also Present: Sally Bostick, Don Sporleder, Kelly Klusczinski I. CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL: President Tim Klusczinski called to order at 7:04 pm II. PUBLIC HEARING Application Number: 2007 -0705 Property Location: 1512 E Wayne Street Property Owner: Sally Bostick Landmark or District Designation: E. Wayne Street Rating: Contributing STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT: This Renaissance Revival was built in 1926. The first owner was Guy De Rhodes of DeRhodes- Yerrick Motor Company, a dealership for Dodge Brothers located at 222 N. Lafayette. Mr. De Rhodes used it as a rental property in the 1930s until its sale to Donald Adair in 1940. It has had about a dozen owner - occupants since 1940 and is currently owned by Sally Bostick, APPLICATION ITEMS: The owner wishes to erect a wood lattice fence along the east side of her house. It will be accessed at the rear of the house by a gate. Another fence will be erected on the west side between the house and garage. It will also have a gate. STANDARDS FOR EAST WAYNE STREET: B. Building site, Landscaping and accessories: Required: Major landscaping items, fencing, walkways, private yard lights, signs (house numbers) and benches which reflect the property's history and development shall be retained. Dominant land contours shall be retained. Structures such as gazebos, patio decks, fixed barbecue pits, swimming pools, tennis courts, greenhouses, new walls, fountains, fixed garden furniture, trellises and other similar structures shall be compatible to the historic character of the site and neighborhood and inconspicuous when viewed from the public walkway. RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends approval. The fence will be low, obscured from view from the street by shrubbery and trees. The style of the fence is sympathetic to the architecture of the house Klusczinsld: Is the petitioner present? Bostick: Yes. Klusczinski: Could you use one of the microphones up here please and state your name and address for the record? Are you also the property owner? Hostetler: Yes, she is. Bostick: Is this a microphone? Klusczinski: Yes. Bostick: My name is Sally Bostick, 1512 E Wayne Street South Bend, Indiana. Klusczinski: Does the C of A properly mention your project that you intend to... ? 'w Bostick: Yes sir, it does. Klusczinski: Are there any changes? Bostick: No, sir. Klusczinski: Would you like to make any other comments about your project. Bostick: No, sir. Well, please let me do it! Klusczinski: The Chair recognizes any Commissioners with questions. Sporleder: I just want to clarify because it's in your written that the fence is four feet tall but in the application items of what's presented to us the height of the fence is not listed. Bostick: It's approximately 48 inches. It does have finials on the post which does make it a little taller. Sporleder: Can we add this; if we're approving this C ofA as presented can we add the height of the fence? It was on the written application. We're not turning the lattice up tall ways? Klusczinski: Any other questions? Uj dak: Yeah, I have a question. Is there a fence or something at the rear of the property? An existing fence? Bostick: Yes sir there is. Ujdak: Ok. Riley: What kind offence is it? Bostick: The fence in the rear is a stockade style fence and it's tall, maybe 7, maybe 6 or 7 feet tall. Klusczinski: Any other questions? Hearing none. Opening up discussion. Commissioners like to say anything about the project? Patrick: Nope, it's pretty clear cut. Klusczinski: Hearing no more discussion, I open up the public hearing. Is there any member of the public wishing to speak in support of the current petition? Is there any member of the public wishing to speak in opposition? Klusczinski/K: No. Klusczinski: I close public hearing. Any additional comments? Bostick: The only comment that I want to make is that 1 appreciated the website that you have operational now. I always have a hard time finding the phone number, but now I go right to it on the internet, so thank you. Klusczinski: Very good. IfI hadn't closed public hearing I'll do that right now. Any additional questions, comments? I'll entertain a motion. Riley: I recommend that we approve C ofA 2007 -0705. Ujdak: I'll second it. Klusczinski: That's with the amendment that it be 48 inches tall? Sporleder: Because that was in her written application. Klusczinski: And you're ok with that? Bostick: Yes sir. Klusczinski: All in favor? (Ayes are heard) Opposed? (Silence) The motion carries unanimously. Bostick: Thank you. Ujdak: Happyfencing. Moved: Riley Second: Ujdak To approve C of A 2007 -0705 Approved Unanimously B. LANDMARKS — None. 2 III. REGULAR BUSINESS A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES June 18, 2007 Moved: Choitz Second: Klusczinski Approved Unanimously B. TREASURER'S REPORT Accepted into record as presented. C. STAFF REPORTS 1. Correspondence Thank you note received by staff for their assistance with a research request. 2. Director — Catherine Hostetler Distributed to Commission. 3. Assistant Director — Amy Herdman Distributed to Commission. Legal Counsel — Shawn Peterson Counsel reminded Staff and Commissioners that when speaking with homeowners it is important NOT to appear to endorse, sanction or otherwise show favoritism to any particular contractor. Counsel was reminded that a disclaimer statement was drafted and appears on any printout of local contractors. Counsel reiterated that it would be improper to suggest that anyone contractor is "certified" or endorsed by the HPC. Counsel also reported his research into incorporating the Secretary of the Interior's Standards into staff reports on C of A applications. It is counsel's opinion that in order to do so, HPC must add a clause to the Preservation Plan that would allow such a change to the standards that landmark owners are to comply with. That process would entail strengthening the landmark standards via proposed changes requiring the approval of Area Plan and Common Council. D. COMMITTEE REPORTS 1. President's Report — Tim Klusczinski None. IV. OLD BUSINESS VP Patrick that she has not yet been able to follow up on her plans to introduce an HPC coffee product. Director Hostetler reported that the Marquette School landmarking effort continues, and that she understands that a successful petition requesting a remonstrance process was filed with the state. V. NEW BUSINESS VI. HEARING OF VISITORS Don Sporleder spoke on the need to preserve not just the built environment of South Bend, but also other elements such as the shade canopy of the city and other assets. Mr. Sporleder also reminded the Commission that September 22n will be the final day of operations of Notre Dame's University Club. He further encouraged the Commission to attempt to preserve some portion of the building/collection/or other artifacts, should the University proceed with demolition plans. ADJOURNMENT 7:31 pm Moved: Chase Second: Patrick Approved: Unanimously Attest: —Todd Zeiger, Date Secretary, Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend & St. Joseph County 3 r J MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION OF SOUTH BEND & SAINT JOSEPH COUNTY July 16, 2007 13` Floor Conference Room County — City Building, South Bend, Indiana Members Present: Todd Zeiger, JoAnn Sporleder, Timothy Klusczinski, Martha Choitz, Mary Jane Chase, Jerry Ujdak, Lynn Patrick, Linda Riley, Joann Sporleder Staff Present: Catherine Hostetler, Amy Herdman, Shawn Peterson Also Present: Sally Bostick, Don Sporleder, Kelly Klusczinski I. CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL: President Tim Klusczinski called to order at 7:04 pm II. PUBLIC HEARING Application Number: 2007 -0705 Property Location: 1512 E Wayne Street Property Owner: Sally Bostick Landmark or District Designation: E. Wayne Street Rating: Contributing STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCEMISTORIC CONTEXT: This Renaissance Revival was built in 1926. The first owner was Guy De Rhodes of DeRhodes- Yerrick Motor Company, a dealership for Dodge Brothers located at 222 N. Lafayette. Mr. De Rhodes used it as a rental property in the 1930s until its sale to Donald Adair in 1940. ' It has had about a dozen owner - occupants since 1940 and is currently owned by Sally Bostick, APPLICATION ITEMS: The owner wishes to erect a wood lattice fence along the east side of her house. It will be accessed at the rear of the house by a gate. Another fence will be erected on the west side between the house and garage. It will also have a gate. STANDARDS FOR EAST WAYNE STREET: B. Building site, Landscaping and accessories: Required: Major landscaping items, fencing, walkways, private yard lights, signs (house numbers) and benches which reflect the property's history and development shall be retained. Dominant land contours shall be retained. Structures such as gazebos, patio decks, fixed barbecue pits, swimming pools, tennis courts, greenhouses, new walls, fountains, fixed garden furniture, trellises and other similar structures shall be compatible to the historic character of the site and neighborhood and inconspicuous when viewed from the public walkway. RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends approval. The fence will be low, obscured from view from the street by shrubbery and trees. The style of the fence is sympathetic to the architecture of the house Klusczinski: Is the petitioner present? Bostick: Yes. Klusczinski: Could you use one of the microphones up here please and state your name and address for the record? Are you also the property owner? Hostetler: Yes, she is. Bostick: Is this a microphone? Klusczinski: Yes. Bostick: My name is Sally Bostick, 1512 E Wayne Street South Bend, Indiana. Klusczinski: Does the C ofA properly mention your project that you intend to...? Bostick: Yes sir, it does. Klusczinski: Are there any changes? Bostick: No, sir. Klusczinski: Would you like to make any other comments about your project. Bostick: No, sir. Well, please let me do it! Klusczinski: The Chair recognizes any Commissioners with questions. Sporleder: I just want to clarify because it's in your written that the fence is four feet tall but in the application items of what's presented to us the height of the fence is not listed. Bostick: It's approximately 48 inches. It does have finials on the post which does make it a little taller. Sporleder: Can we add this; if we're approving this C of A as presented can we add the height of the fence? It was on the written application. We're not turning the lattice up tall ways? Klusczinski: Any other questions? Ujdak: Yeah, I have a question. Is there a fence or something at the rear of the property? An existing fence? Bostick: Yes sir there is. Ujdak: Ok. Riley: What kind offence is it? Bostick: The fence in the rear is a stockade style fence and it's tall, maybe 7, maybe 6 or 7 feet tall. Klusczinski: Any other questions? Hearing none. Opening up discussion. Commissioners like to say anything about the project? Patrick: Nope, it's pretty clear cut. Klusczinski: Hearing no more discussion, I open up the public hearing. Is there any member of the public wishing to speak in support of the current petition? Is there any member of the public wishing to speak in opposition? Klusczinski/K: No. Klusczinski: I close public hearing. Any additional comments? Bostick: The only comment that I want to make is that I appreciated the website that you have operational now. I always have a hard time finding the phone number, but now I go right to it on the internet, so thank you. Klusczinski: Very good. If I hadn't closed public hearing I'll do that right now. Any additional questions, comments? I'll entertain a motion. Riley: I recommend that we approve C of A 2007 -0705. Ujdak: I'll second it. Klusczinski: That's with the amendment that it be 48 inches tall? Sporleder: Because that was in her written application. Klusczinski: And you're ok with that? Bostick: Yes sir. Klusczinski: All in favor? (Ayes are heard) Opposed? (Silence) The motion carries unanimously. Bostick: Thank you. Ujdak: Happy fencing. Moved: Riley Second: Ujdak To approve C of A 2007 -0705 Approved Unanimously B. LANDMARKS — None. III. REGULAR BUSINESS A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES June 18, 2007 Moved: Choitz Second: Approved Klusczinski Unanimously 2 r - B. TREASURER'S REPORT Accepted into record as presented. C. STAFF REPORTS 1. Correspondence Thank you note received by staff for their assistance with a research request. 2. Director — Catherine Hostetler Distributed to Commission. 3. Assistant Director — Amy Herdman Distributed to Commission. Legal Counsel — Shawn Peterson Counsel reminded Staff and Commissioners that when speaking with homeowners it is important NOT to appear to endorse, sanction or otherwise show favoritism to any particular contractor. Counsel was reminded that a disclaimer statement was drafted and appears on any printout of local contractors. Counsel reiterated that it would be improper to suggest that any one contractor is "certified" or endorsed by the HPC. Counsel also . reported his research into incorporating the Secretary of the Interior's Standards into staff reports on C of A applications. It is counsel's opinion that in order to do so, HPC must add a clause to the Preservation Plan that would allow such a change to the standards that landmark owners are to comply with. That process would entail strengthening the landmark standards via proposed changes requiring the approval of Area Plan and Common Council. D. COMMITTEE REPORTS - 1. President's Report — Tim Klusczinski President Klusczinski wished to thank all involved with the planning/implementation of the City Celebration Park After Dark event. It was a very enjoyable, well- attended event. IV. OLD BUSINESS VP Patrick that she has not yet been able to follow up on her plans to introduce an HPC coffee product. Director Hostetler reported that the Marquette School landmarking effort continues, and that she understands that a successful petition requesting a remonstrance process was filed with the state. V. NEW BUSINESS VI. HEARING OF VISITORS Don Sporleder spoke on the need to preserve not just the built environment of South Bend, but also other elements such as the shade canopy of the city and other assets. Mr. Sporleder also reminded the Commission that September V will be the final day of operations of Notre Dame's University Club. He further encouraged the Commission to attempt to preserve some portion of the building/collection /or other artifacts, should the University proceed with demolition plans. ADJOURNMENT 7:31 pm Moved: Chase Second: Patrick Attest: Approved: Unanimously Todd Zeiger, Date Secretary, Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend & St. Joseph County ki b Location Budget as of 07 -31 -2007 Saint Joseph County Note: Includes transactions after the last posted date of 07 -01 -2007. Fund: 001 County General for 01/01/2007 thru 07/31/2007 Loc: 037 Historic Preservation Account Object Description 11075 Deputy Director Original Appropriation 30,000.00 Addt'VAdj Appropriation 0.00 Total Appropriation 30,000.00 Encumbrance 0.00 Expenditure 17,307.75 Unencumbered Balance/Percent 12,692.25 42.31 Unexpended Balance/Percent 12,692.25 42.31 000 General GovT. 11309 Historic Preservation Admin. 36,050.00 0.00 36,050.00 0.00 20,798.10 15,251.90 42.31 15,251.90 42.31 000 General GovT. •10000 Totals " " " " " " " "" " " " " " " " " " 66,050.00 0.00 66,050.00 0.00" 38,105.85 27,944.15 42.31 27,944.15 42.31 21030 Office Supplies 1,250.00 59.50 1,309.50 42.73 237.68 1,029.09 78.59 1,071.82 81.85 000 General GovT. 22010 Gas Oil & Lubricants 883.00 0.00 883.00 0.00 340.04 542.96 61.49 542.96 61.49 000 General GovT. ' 22120 Garage & Motor Supplies 700.00 0.00 700.00 0.00 528.53 171.47 24.50 171.47 24.50 000 General GovT. 20000 Totals "' " " " " " "` " " " " " " " " " " " "' " "'" 2,833.00 59.50 2,892.50 42.73 1,106.25 1,743.52 60.28 1,786.25 61.75 31070 Other Contractual Services 28,000.00 0.00 28,000.00 0.00 15,793.58 12,206.42 43.59 12,206.42 43.59 000 General GovT. 32020 Travel 425.00 1,129.00 1,554.00 0.00 1,554.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 000 General GovT. 32050 Instruction & Training 1,000.00 150.00 1,150.00 0.00 225.00 925.00 80.43 925.00 80.43 000 General GovT. 32053 Public Relations 2,570.00 638.82 3,208.82 0.00 3,151.52 57.30 1.79 57.30 1.79 000 General GovT. 32200 Telephone 160.00 0.00 160.00 0.00 0.00 160.00 100.00 160.00 100.00 000 General GovT. 32350 Postage 2,160.00 400.36 2,560.36 0.00 1,781.73 778.63 30.41 778.63 30.41 000 General GOVT. 33010 Publication Of Legal Notices 500.00 0.00 500.00 0.00 71.51 428.49 85.70 428.49 85.70 000 General GOVT. User ID ksobecki 08/01/2007 12:04 PM Page 80 Location Budget as of 07 -31 -2007 Note: Includes transactions after the last posted date of 07 -01 -200' Fund: 001 County General for 01/01/2007 thru 07/31/2007 Loc: 037 Historic Preservation Account General GovT. Original Object Description Appropriation 33100 Printing 3,000.00 000 General GovT. Funds W/O Approp. 37100 Auto Lease 500.00 000 General GovT. Buildings & Structures 39010 Dues & Subscription 750.00 000 General GovT. 39600 Refunds, Awards & Indemnities 000 General GovT. 39750 Data Processing 000 General GovT. 39980 Funds W/O Approp. 000 General GovT. 30000 Totals ......... ............................... 42010 Buildings & Structures 367 Gifts &Contrib 44250 Office Machines 000 General GovT. 40000 Totals ......... ............................... Location Totals " "' " " " " ".. " " " " " " " " " " "" Investment Accounts Transfer Accounts 0.00 1,000.00 0.00 40,065.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 108,948.00 Addt'UAdj Total Unexpended Appropriation Appropriation Encumbrance 5,555.00 8,555.00 5,528.00 0.00 500.00 0.00 0.00 750.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 1,000.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 7,873.18 47,938.18 5,528.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 3,651.82 3,651.82 0.00 3,651.82 3,651.82 0.00 11,584.50 120,532.50 5,570.73 Saint Joseph County User ID ksobecki 08/01/2007 12:04 PM Page 81 Unencumbered Unexpended Expenditure Balance/Percent Balance/Percent 594.98 2,432.02 7,960.02 28.43 93.05 0.00 500.00 500.00 100.00 100.00 214.95 535.05 535.05 71.34 71.34 19,170.75 (19,170.75) (19,170.75) 0.00 0.00 0.00 1,000.00 1,000.00 100.00 100.00 12,391.75 (12,391.75) (12,391.75) 0.00 0.00 54,949.77 (12,539.59) (7,011.59) (26.16) (14.63) 30,000.00 (30,000.00) (000.00) 0.00 0.00 3,651.82 0.00 0.00 0.00 0i 0.00 33,651.82 (30,000.00) (30,000.00) (821.51) (821.51) 127,813.69 (12,851.92) (7,281.19) (10.66) (6.04) 0.00 0.00 127,813.69 User ID ksobecki 08/01/2007 12:04 PM Page 81 7 Location Budget as of 07 -31 -2007 Note: Includes transactions after the last posted date of 07 -01 -2007. Fund: 013 County Special Gifts for 01/01/2007 thru 07/31/2007 Loc: 037 Historic Preservation Account Original Object Description Appropriation 00000 Gen Govt 0.00 000 General GovT. 00000 Totals •www.w www.w.wwwwwww. :www . www..wwww :www.w 23240 Other Supplies 000 General GovT. 20000 Totals •'•'•' wwww.w..w . wwwwww.w : :wwwwwww..www :w 42010 Buildings & Structures 367 Gifts &Contrib 40000 Totals w wweww wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwweww : : www Location Totals """"• ww wwwwwwww .ww.,,,wwwwwwwwwwwwwww Investment Accounts Transfer Accounts 0.00 0.00 0.00 1414I•: Addt'VAdj Appropriation 9,028.25 9,028.25 2,552.00 2,552.00 52,000.00 52,000.00 63,580.25 Total Appropriation 9,028.25 9,028.25 2,552.00 2,552.00 52,000.00 52,000.00 63,580.25 Saint Joseph County User ID ksobecid 08/01/2007 12:04 PM Page 152 Unencumbered Unexpended Encumbrance Expenditure Balance[Percent Balance/Percent 0.00 0.00 9,028.25 9,028.25 100.00 100.00 0.00 0.00 9,028.25 9,028.25 100.00 100.00 0.00 0.00 2,552.00 2,552.00 100.00 100.00 0.00 0.00 2,552.00 2,552.00 100.00 100.00 0.00 0.00 52,000.00 52,000.00 100.00 100.00 0.00 0.00 52,000.00 52,000.00 L + / �; j/ 100.00 100.00 0.00 0.00 63,580.25 63,580.25 100.00 100.00 0.00 .35, 520. 2 - 5 0.00 0.00 User ID ksobecid 08/01/2007 12:04 PM Page 152 Combined Ledger by Location (Current Month) as of 07 -31 -2007 Saint Joseph County Note: Includes transactions after the last posted date of 07/01/2007. Fund 013 County Special Gifts for 01/01/2007 thru 07/31/2007 Loc 037 Historic Preservation Budget Effective Transaction Transaction Account Code Date Date Type Amount Other Data 013.00000.000.037 Gen Govt General GovT. Historic Preservation Estimated Unreceived Revenue Balances Revenue Receipts Balance Appropriation Encumbrance Expenditure Unexpended: 9,028.25 Current 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 Unencumbered: 9,028.25 Total 0.00 0.00 0.00 9,028.25 0.00 0.00 Cash: 0.00 013.23240.000.037 Other Supplies General GovT. Historic Preservation Estimated Unreceived Revenue Balances Revenue Receipts Balance Appropriation Encumbrance Expenditure Unexpended: 2,552.00 Current 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 Unencumbered: 2,552.00 Total 0.00 0.00 0.00 2,552.00 0.00 0.00 Cash: 0.00 013.42010.367.037 Buildings & Structures Gifts &Contdb Historic Preservation Estimated Unreceived Revenue Balances Revenue Receipts Balance Appropriation Encumbrance Expenditure Unexpended: 52,000.00 Current 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 Unencumbered: 52,000.00 Total 0.00 0.00 0.00 52,000.00 0.00 0.00 Cash: 0.00 Estimated Unreceived Revenue Balances Revenue Receipts Balance Appropriation Encumbrance Expenditure Unexpended: 63,580.25 Normal Current 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 Unencumbered: 63,580.25 Total 0.00 0.00 0.00 63,580.25 0.00 0.00 Cash: 0.00 Investment Current 0.00 0.00 Total 0.00 0.00 Cash: 0.00 Transfer Current 0.00 0.00 Total 0.00 0.00 Cash: 0.00 Location Totals Current 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 Total 0.00 0.00 0.00 63,580.25 0.00 0.00 Cash: 0.00 User ID ksobecki 08/01/200712:16 PM Page 425 Director's Report August, 2007 July 16 Met with Phyllis Emmons new HR Director for St. Joseph County July 17 -20 Edited City Survey 13 hours July 23 Attended SBCSC Board of Trustees meeting July 25 City Celebration Planning meeting with Amy, Mikki and Jennifer. SR 23 meeting and Granger Paths meeting in Granger. July 26 Botanical Society Membership meeting. August 1 Meeting with Todd and Tim with Dr. Zimmerman at SBCSC Administration Building August 2 Meeting with Jeff Gibney and Jen Laurent August 7 Meeting with Dana Groves and Intern from Historic New Carlisle August 9 BSSB Executive Committee meeting August 13 Attended Marquette Open House with Lynn, Linda and Tim to hear Dr. Zimmerman speak.. August 15 -17 Edited City Survey 8 hours, Prepared Department Budget for 2008. August 17 Met with Connie Tooley and the property manager, Susan Donoho, for 601 W. LaSalle now owned by CQ Investments of Maryland. CQ intends to rehab building into Condos. Marco Mariana of DTSB, Paul Hayden of HLFI and Karen Ainsley of NNN were also attending. Assistant Director's Report HPC Meeting — 08.20.07 ■ Met new County HR Director. ■ Worked extensively on editing City Survey — 52+ hours. ■ Met with SBT interns to develop multi media story/video of W Washington Walking Tour. ■ Attended IHLA meeting in Indianapolis. ■ Staffed Family Day at the Cabin. ■ Met with Mayor's Office regarding September City Celebration. ■ Met with Andy Beckman and Tony Smith regarding borrowing collection for use at September City Celebration event. ■ Met with John Schalliol and staff regarding SBN's assistance for September event. ■ Planted kitchen garden at Leeper Park East. ■ Attended St. Joe Co Housing Consortium meeting. ■ Met with Amy Hill at the Cove. ■ Finalized arrangements /accommodations for Kurt Culbertson. ■ Toured districts with Wayne Doolittle compiling photographs for Glorious George Awards. ■ Planned /scheduled tax information seminar for September 26 with David Duvall. ■ Attended lunch meeting with HLFI staff regarding W. Washington Walks. ■ Met with Wes Spiker regarding scheduling pod cast recordings for W Washington Walks. ■ Made contact with Guinness Book regarding kites aloft record for September City Celebration event. ■ Received word that NEH grant application was not approved. 0 HPC President's Report August 20 2007 —Timothy Klusczinski 7/24/07 • Sent HPC response to South Bend Tribune "Our Opinion" editorial "Preservation a matter of time" (07/20/07). Submission was originally entitled: Marquette: Enduring the PAST and PRESS -ent ". Tribune later changed this to "Commission has acted appropriately to save Marquette" when published as "Michiana Point of View" feature (08/03/07). Most other article content remained unaffected. 7/29/07 City Celebration: Cabin Days I visited Leeper Park East to scope out the events at the Navarre Cabin and took event pictures for the next "Commission Courier." Mr. Navarre was not at home when I stopped in. Instead, I did find Mr. Alexis Coquillard - his financial backer. Mr. Coquillard spoke about the local fur- trapping industry, the river, and some of the environmental challenges. He was also in favor of a formal name for the area... something like "Southhold ?" Seems like a fine idea to me. Maybe it'll catch on... Attendees, especially the children seemed to be having a GREAT time, despite the HOT and sunny climate. The campfire seemed almost, unnecessary. Activities included a show -n -tell on period tools, candle making, and interaction with the players dressed in period attire. I wish to thank the Center for History and the City of South Bend for their partnership, dedication and effort in promoting our local history. 8/3/07 • 12:53PM: Observed construction project at 318 W. Navarre Street (Chapin Park) where basement windows had been removed from openings and damaged beyond repair. A "Bobcat" was parked in the back yard. I spoke to Mike Balmer and Mike Brzezinski who were performing the work. No documentation was displayed in the windows, so I asked the men to show me the permits for the work. They said "we don't know anything about that" and "that would be Richard." When I inquired further, they admitted that Richard Guntle of Home Service was the General Contractor. 4 Bruno owned the Bobcat equipment and was contocted by Richard. Mr. Balmer called Richard on his cell phone to inform him that "someone from the city was asking about permits." Mr. Balmer relayed that Richard was in the process of getting one. I asked both men if they were employees of Richard, they said "no." They said they were doing the work for "Collier's Glass Block." I inquired if they were employees of "Collier's Glass Block," they said "no." I suggested that that would make them "subs ?" They agreed. I asked for their company name. They couldn't offer one and stated that they were doing the work "independently." I asked if they were licensed, bonded and insured. Mike Brzezinski said "no." Mike Balmer interrupted and said "yeah." Although they were unable to substantiate their status, at that time. I informed the men that they were performing work in the Chapin Park Local Historic District. That the Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend and St. Joseph County must approve work that changes exterior features. I also mentioned that "if' the project had not been reported to the HPC, it "would be" a violation of the ordinance. I told the men that I am compelled to report this activity to the HPC. The Building Department would also learn about it. I admitted that I could not tell them how to proceed (full open -air access to the basement level, destroyed original windows and new glass -block units ready for installation), but it would be in their best interest to obtain the necessary permits right away. I provided them with my card and indicated the HPC staff address and telephone number. 8/13/07 Attended Marquette Primary Center Open House to hear Dr. Zimmerman, Superintendent SBCSC address the congregation on the building's status with regard to the Local Landmark designation procedure or consequences from a successful public bond issue remonstrance process. Dr. Zimmerman apologized for the hot summer temperatures in the auditorium and promised that water would be available for the children during this time, now that they were in session. He went on to advise the public that both landmarking and the remonstrance would ultimately prevent planned improvements for the building — improvements realized from a new facility. And that the current bond issue ONLY supported a new Marquette facility — NOT a rehabbed building. Since Local Landmark status would also prevent demolition of the current structure it would most likely halt the plan. It was inferred that there would be no other improvements suggested, if the current construction plan was derailed. It spoke directly against Landmark protection. Finally, Dr. Zimmerman outlined the public process and solicited the audience' support to achieve it's goals. SOUTH BEND & SAINT JOSEPH COUNTY HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AUGUST 20, 2007 MEETING GUESTS: PLEASE SIGN THIS LIST SO THAT YOUR PRESENCE CAN BE NOTED FOR OUR 1 Print Name Address Signature Liz w y ic)c--) �-- X k N 14 ( Q (0.6 N, Ma w S4-,rf MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION OF SOUTH BEND & SAINT JOSEPH COUNTY August 20, 2007 13 Floor Conference Room County — City Building, South Bend, Indiana Members Present: Todd Zeiger, JoAnn Sporleder, Timothy Klusczinski, Martha Choitz, Mary Jane Chase, Lynn Patrick, Catherine Hostetler Members Absent: Jerry Ujdak, Linda Riley Staff Present: Catherine Hostetler, Amy Herdman, Shawn Peterson, Wayne Doolittle Also Present: Don Sporleder, Liz Maradik, Marty Inglesby, Ryan Kring CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL: President Tim Klusczinski called to order at 7:00 pm I. PUBLIC HEARING *Note: C of A application number 2007 -0716, scheduled to be heard at this meeting, was withdrawn by the petitioner via email. Application Number: 2007 -0719 Property Location: 1228 E. Wayne Street North Property Owner: Colleen and Martin Inglesby Landmark or District Designation: E. Wayne Street LHD Rating: Contributing STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT: This Colonial Revival residence was built in 1927 for Roy W. and Luella Kilmer. Mr. Kilmer was a paneler at Studebaker. The house is believed to have remained in the Kilmer family until 1966 when it was sold to John J. and Margaret Loughlin, a teacher at Adams High School. It is currently owned by Colleen and Martin Inglesby. APPLICATION ITEM: Remove Crab Apple Tree in front yard. Tree blocks view of home, blocks sunlight to other landscape features. Landscape Company suggested removal to preserve other trees/bushes/lawns. Also to remove front bushes to be replaced with more appropriately sized landscape. Will use recommendations from Historic Guide Book STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES: I The Environment, B. Building Site, Landscaping and Accessories: Required: Major landscaping items, fencing, walkways, private yard lights, signs (house numbers) and benches which reflect the properties history and development shall be retained. Dominant land contours shall be retained... Recommended: New Site work should be based upon actual knowledge of the past appearance of the property found in photographs, drawing and newspapers. New site work should be appropriate to the existing surrounding site elements in scale, type and appearance. Plant materials and trees in close proximity to the building that are causing deterioration to the building's historic fabric should be removed. However, trees and plant materials that must be removed should be immediately replaced by suitable flora. Appendix B Landscape Assessment Summary is attached for reference. STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends approval. The crab apple tree is interfering with the landscaping in the lawn and the view of the house from the street. The old overgrown, front bushes will be replaced with more appropriate bushes. Klusczinski: Thank you very much, is the petitioner present? Care to make a presentation? Inglesby: Sure. Klusczinski: It might be better if you were up here, so that the microphones can pick it up. Klusczinski: State your name and address for the record, please. Inglesby: My name is Martin Inglesby, and the address is 1228 E. Wayne Street North. My wife and 1 just moved in thereat the end of June. There's a crab apple tree in the yard, which I think from an aesthetic standpoint swallows the yard, leaves crab apples all over the grass, and the roots are up out of the ground, so we'd like to get permission to help preserve the area. One of the bushes that's in the pictures is dead now, and the tree is blocking sunlight to the right side of the house, so we'd like to get it taken out. Klusczinski: Very good. You are the property owner? Inglesby: Yes. Klusczinski: Just to clarify. The Chair recognizes Commissioners with questions for the petitioner. Sporleder: Are we only acting upon removal of the crab apple tree and then there will be another C of A for the landscaping that will replace it? I don't see a landscaping plan with this petition. Inglesby: We're not really going to replace it, just re -sod the ground and get the stump removed and sod it so that's it's an open area. Klusczinski: Very good, any other questions? Sporleder: Excuse me, this did say something about removing something... some bushes, and being replaced with something more appropriate. 1 guess I would be more comfortable ifI knew what was being prepared here. Inglesby: At this time we're not really sure what we're going to replace it with. The bush to the right that kind ofsits next to the crab apple tree is the one that's dead. And it's the same type of bush on the other side that's blocking the window. I had a landscaping company come out and we're not really sure if we're going to wait till the Spring to do that or what but we're hoping to get the crab apple removed. Yes, and the two bushes, the one on the right is dead right now, so we need to get that removed and replaced with a more appropriate bush. Sporleder: So you'll come back to us again for the replacement? Inglesby: Sure. Klusczinski: You wouldn't have any problem with us striking the phrase where it suggests that you would be replacing it? Inglesby: That's fine. Klusczinski: To clarify the record? Ok. Inglesby: So, I just have to let you know what type of bushes I'll be putting in there, is that how that works? Klusczinski: Yes. The reverse of what you're here for tonight. Inglesby: Ok, that's fine. Sporleder: And you can check with Catherine because she's got a.... Hostetler: He has a copy of the book. Klusczinski: Any other questions? Patrick: I want to make a comment, just reading the landscape assessment, about the East Wayne Street local historic district. (quoting) To preserve the character of the district, each residence should have either trees in the tree lawn or a large tree in the front yard. Hostetler: He's got trees in the tree lawn. Patrick: Ok, that's all I've got. Klusczinski: Very good. With that, the Chair opens the public hearing. Is there any member of the public wishing to speak in support of the petition? Any member of the public wishing to speak in opposition? Hearing none on both occasions, I close the public hearing. I'll entertain a motion. Zeiger: I'll make a motion to approve C ofA 2007 -0719 as submitted. Patrick: I second. Sporleder: Can I ask one more question? In this picture there appears to be another tree that is very close to the house, is that something that's coming out with this front stuff? Inglesby: No, it's not. That's a birch, I believe. Klusczinski: Motion is on the table we need a second. Patrick: I seconded. 2 Klusczinski: Oh, sorry Lynn. Thank you. Any discussion? All in favor? (Ayes are heard) All opposed? (Silence) Motion carries. Thank you. Moved: Zeiger Second: Patrick To approve C of A 2007 -0719 Approved Unanimously Application Number: 2007 -0806A Property Location: 106 N. Main Street JMS Building Property Owner: John Friedline Landmark or District Designation: Local Landmark and in MRA National Register District Rating: Outstanding STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT: The JMS building was designed by noted Chicago architect, Solon Spencer Beman in 1910. It was commissioned by John Mohler Studebaker to be the best office building with fireproof construction- reinforced concrete, granite, terra_ cotta marble and fireproof tile. It was designated as a local landmark in 1998. APPLICATION ITEM: Install five non - illuminated awnings per enclosed renderings. Awnings are non - illuminated made with Sunbrella fabric on aluminum frame, closed ends and 6" valance per direction of DRB (Downtown Design Review Board) rep., Jim Markle. The awnings will be secured by tapping into pre existing aluminum tubing above the windows and not into the building. STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES: B Standards: F. Signs: No neon or flashing signs will be permitted unless they are original to the structure. Billboards and super - graphics will also be disallowed. Only one appropriate identifying sign will be permitted per business. STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends approval. The awnings will not be affixed to the main structure of the building. The awnings with their logo blend in with color and design with the modern portion of the fagade. Klusczinski: Thank you very much, is the petitioner present? Kring: Mr. Chairman, members of the Board, thank you for having me this evening. My name is Ryan Kring, and I'm with US Sign Crafters. I'd just like to highlight a couple of things that were mentioned in the staff report. I'll try not to take a lot of your time. Our proposal is for non - illuminated awnings, the awnings are made from a thick woven fabric that has no opportunity to be lit up at night. They are attached to the square tubing on the building. Nothing is going to penetrate into the granite walls. They're going to serve to enhance the granite walls of the JMS Building. We feel that... and would appreciate any questions that you may have. Patrick: I have one question. Is Ugly Mugs the company that's planning to rent that first floor? Kring: Yes. Patrick: What are they? Kring: They are a Christian coffee house. They've just install a copper ceiling that's really nice. You guys should check it out. Klusczinski: There are aggregate panels, are they going to remain? Kring: Yes. Klusczinski: So the awnings will cover them? Kring: We designed these so that they wouldn't interfere with anything on the building, and that they would be the least intrusive possible. Per the direction of Jim Markle, our original proposal was not to have the ends closed, and not to have a valance. And if we did have a valance, we wanted to put copy on it. He recommended strongly that we put a valance on it, no copy and close the ends up and we were more than happy to work with him on that. Zeiger: What's the color? Kring: It's going to be black with sort of a teal blue. It really blends in with the granite that's on the building. I have a color copy. Sporleder: May I ask a question? There are three awning profiles here, which one are you doing? The oval one or one of...? 3 Kring: Ours is going to be very similar to this, the only reason that I showed the other awnings is to show the consistency in the area. Awnings are very common, in the downtown corridor. Sporleder: In this picture it looks like this is going to be your writing on the front, top slope of it. Kring: Yes, we actually shortened up the projection so it's a little more readable for people traveling along the street. We did have it projecting our further, but we shrunk it up to make it more legible. Klusczinski: Thank you very much. Any more questions for the petitioner? Any Commission discussion? Zeiger: Did the Commission approve Zirkle's sign? It's on the same building? Do you remember? Hostetler: No, not offhand. Zeiger: I just wondered about that and the Christian Science Reading room the same deal. Doolittle: The awnings were approved by the Commission. Chase: Zirkle? I don't remember Zirkle... Zeiger: I'm sorry, I was just curious as they're all on the same building and... Hostetler: That's kind of not germane to this because... Zeiger: Well, it is in a sense because they're all on the same building and I'm just looking at design. I don't like Zirkle's, just trying to get some consistency on that building overtime. I'm not advocating for the Zirkle design, I'm just saying that as that one gets replaced; we should look at that with context of the use. Ifhvhen Zirkle moves out or replaces that, we should look at that more closely... Hostetler: That would be a good idea. Patrick: Maybe you'll think of that if you get the contract if that ever gets replaced. Kring: Sure. Klusczinski: Very good, any other discussion? Hearing none, I open the public hearing, is there anyone wishing to speak in support of the petition? Hearing none, is there any member of the public wishing to speak in opposition? Again hearing none, I close public hearing. Any other final comments? Very good, ok. I'll entertain a motion. Patrick: Id like to move to approve application number 2007 -0806A for 106 North Main Street awnings as submitted. Zeiger: I'll second. Klusczinski: Very good, motion on the floor and has been seconded. All in favor? (Ayes are heard) Opposed? Chase: I abstain. Klusczinski: Very good. Motion carries. Moved: Patrick Second: Zeiger To approve C of A 2007 -0806A Approved 6 -0 Chase abstains Application Number: 2007 -0806B Property Location: 508 - 508 % Lindsey Property Owner: NNN Landmark or.District Designation: Chapin Park LHD Rating: Non contributing STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT: Bunker Young House is an American Four Square built between 1902 and 1903. Mr. Bunker was the Chief of Police for several years. APPLICATION ITEM: Removal of aluminum siding and replace with smooth cement fiber product to match lap, width and texture of original siding. STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES: II Existing Structures A. Building Materials 4 Original exterior building materials in the district include brick, stucco, clapboard, wood shingles and brick or stone masonry. In some instances vinyl, composite and aluminum siding have been applied over the original material Required: Original exterior building materials shall be retained when possible. Deterioration of wood materials shall be presented though repair, cleaning and painting. The existing architectural detail around windows, porches, doors and eaves shall be retained or replaced by replicas of the same design when deteriorated beyond repair.:.. Recommended: Whenever possible, the original building materials should be restored. When maintaining or repairing original siding is not feasible aluminum, vinyl or composite siding may be used. When used over wood surfaces, the siding should be the same size and style as the original wood. Every effort should be made to retain original trim around windows, doors, cornices, gables, eaves and other architectural features.... STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Staff can not make a recommendation since it does not know the condition of the original siding and can not make a determination at this time. Staff requests that it be allowed to work with NNN to make recommendations and return its recommendations to either the Standards and Maintenance Committee or the Commission. Klusczinski: Thank you, is the petitioner present? Maradik: My name is Liz Maradik, resident City Planner with the Near Northwest Neighborhood Incorporated. The AWN is asking for a C of A for the property at 508 Lindsey so that they can apply the cement fiberboard siding which it currently has aluminum siding on the building. Existing clapboard siding will remain in place and the new siding will overlay it so it will not require the removal of the original material. The property has been a nuisance rental which has been the site of drug use and prostitution for many years and the NNNplans to convert the existing duplex back to a single family residence and sell it to a low to moderate income owner occupant, as it continues its efforts to preserve and stabilize the area. You may notice in the initial request for C of A in 2005, the NNN had planned to repaint the structure, using Historic Landmarks Foundation's standards. In the past, to work in partnership with the HPC, agreed to paint houses that were historically significant, did not have income restrictions, or were in an existing historic district. However, since that time, the Board has re- evaluated its position. In particular, in 2005, AWN utilized a paint finish at the property on 702 Cushing and had disappointing results. The AWN utilized Historic Landmarks standards for the painting, had a Historic Landmarks approved contractor, and the preservation specialist from Historic Landmarks had been thereto oversee the project. Unfortunately, the paint did not holdup to the elements. The AWN Board is committed to providing a property that requires limited maintenance for the first 10 years after purchase, and has been forced to reconsider painting whether it's the best finish for the properties. In this situation at 702 Cushing, the home owner has put vinyl siding over the house, stating that they did not have the means or the ability to keep up with the on -going maintenance to the property due to their age and fixed income. Due to this experience and the income restrictions placed on NNNproperties which require the sale of properties to low to moderate income households, the AWN Board is not comfortable to place home owners in this on -going maintenance situation. The AWN has numerous experiences in similar instances such as this where paint has fallen into disrepair due to limitations of time and money. The Board is committed to making exteriors replicate the existing architecture and is therefore proposing the use of a smooth cement fiberboard made to match the same lap as the original siding. It would not be apparent to the naked eye that it is not the original wood and would be an improvement over the existing aluminum siding. Cement board siding is quite a costly upgrade, but the product comes factory finished and offers a 30 year warrantee; making it a more sustainable solution as it does not require the yearly maintenance of a painted surface. If you're unfamiliar with the cement board, you can see it on a number of NNNproperties as well as the homes that ND has built on Notre Dame Ave. The requested application will not alter the original design of W the property, but offer a contemporary method and material that should be acceptable based on HPC guidelines. I'd be happy to answer any questions. Klusczinski: Very good. Can you site for me the similarities that the AWN has been able to evaluate between the property that failed and it's paint and the current property so that we know that we're comparing apples to apples. Maradik: As far as just the.... Klusczinski: How would you be able to anticipate that the paint would fail on this one, and have you determined or given any assignable cause why the paint failed on the other property? Maradik: They don't know why that paint failed; they did follow the Historic Landmarks... Klusczinski: So there has not been an evaluation? Maradik: Yeah. They followed the same standards and the contractors did the standards of Historic Landmark when they completed the job and I would be of the assumption that it would be to the same standard at this property. Klusczinski: Do you have a date, or can you approximate a date when the other property was finished? Maradik: It was in 2005, my guess is over the summer, but I don't have an exact... Klusczinski: If you would be leaving, I guess the jamb treatment and trim in place, and cladding the entire house again how would you handle the different layer elevation of the new siding atop, for the more decorative elements of the house that we're trying to preserve for our interests. Maradik: Since it already has aluminum siding on it, there's a good chance, I'm assuming, some of the pieces or elements that you might be talking about aren't existing any longer underneath if they were removed when the siding was placed on it. Klusczinski: No, I guess the basis for my question was trying to determine how we would re- emphasize the feature aspect of the window components and everything. I know that for aluminum siding there are different ways that that's handled. With vinyl siding you have a j- channel and everything like that, but if you're going to celebrate those features once again to be, I guess, in sympathy, with the other standards of the district, how would you be able to bring those elements out without creating a lot more additional work also? Maradik: Ifl'm understanding your question right, I know that in other houses the NNN at least, as far as colors that they choose helps to accentuate things like windows and doorjambs and whatnot. Klusczinski: So, only by color and not by building members and trim? Maradik: They would probably still use something similar to, maybe the cement board or something along those lines if it needed to accentuate... Klusczinski: Do you have any houses as an example where that's been done, or is this going to be a guinea pig case? Maradik: I'm sure that whatever they're redoing at this house would be something similar to houses that they've already completed. Hostetler: Tim, in 2005 at this particular residence, we had a C ofA approved to retain 2 originals for re -use, replacement of replacement windows with Kolbe and Kolbe 1 over 1 double hung windows, porch rehabilitation, removal of concrete porch floor and metal supports and railings and replacement with wood tongue and groove flooring, bead board ceiling, columns and spindles per photos submitted, details of porch and rear elevation will be worked out with HPC staff. Removal of second front door, in -kind replacement of roof, gutters and side walks, and then they were going to repaint and so they haven't done this work yet so we extended them the C ofA for everything but the painting, and that's why she's here. Zeiger: So all of that other work is going to go on? Hostetler: Yes, all of that other work is going to be going on, they're going to be replacing the replacement windows with the Kolbe and Kolbe windows which will not pose a problem, I don't think. 31 Zeiger: There will still be an issue. Hostetler: There will be an issue, but... Zeiger: I have a question when you're done. Klusczinski: Please. I have one question for staff. When I was reviewing the Chapin Park guidebook, page 72, the prohibited section also suggests that wood siding shall not be resurfaced with material that is inappropriate or was unavailable when the building was constructed. And it gives some examples, and Shawn, legally, the examples it gives, it doesn't suggest that it discludes anything else, or excludes anything else that's not mentioned, I think that it was trying to be helpful with a few other examples, maybe some brick siding material, imitation brick siding material, that kind of thing, but I'm not sure legally if that also suggests that the whole emphasis here or the drive is to make sure that we could gradually get away from houses that have dual cladding on them and if that would even be relevant right now despite the NNN's best efforts to use maybe a cement fiberboard over vinyl or some other building material. Peterson: I'd have to look at the standards themselves and see and get back to you. I'm not familiar with how it's worded to know f this aspect would be, would fall within that prohibited section. Again, the guidelines are there to distinguish what is and what is not appropriate and so to the extent that they overlap I think that within you discretion to see which category does that fit within. Klusczinski: And the follow up to that, I think that its... under required on page 70 also suggests that ample ventilation must be afforded to the structure when siding is installed in order to prevent increased deterioration of the structure from moisture and insects. Under the impression that that probably relates to a second layer of cladding on a house because of the lack of moisture breath ability. Peterson: You may be more familiar here, are they removing the aluminum siding to put the stuff right up over the wood then? Klusczinski: Yes. Peterson: I'm not familiar with the use of portage or Portland cement. Herdman: That 's just a gray, your standard ugly cement. Peterson: Well obviously... its one thing to say that this was unavailable, but new technologies are such that you probably want to look at the essence... is it inappropriate in the sense of the look and how it occurs on this. But it says that new material, should not be resurfaced with new material that's inappropriate or unavailable when the building was built. So you look at artificial stone is listed, so how much does that mesh with cement, and it seems to be that it would be close Klusczinski: And cement board, I thinkfor all practical purposes, you wouldn't be able to know that it's not wood cladding it's just a different formulation. Dimensionally, it's the same kind of thing. But I'm not sure what the breath ability of cement fiberboard is and I'm not sure maybe what the emphasis on the guidebook would try and be getting back to the earlier C ofA case that we had tonight and the comment that Todd made about if we'd ever had the opportunity to evaluate signs on the same building at some time in the future we should also try to direct so that there is some uniformity. Here, it would be uniformity in the district, and maybe a gradual way to try to get away from cladding on cladding, which I don't think in my opinion leads to the historic integrity of the neighborhood. Those are my thoughts. Ok, Todd, you had a question. Zeiger: You started to talk about what I'm concerned about. When they put that wide aluminum siding on, they generally go over the top of the casing around the window and the corner boards so you'll have a wide board. That's what you were trying to ask about. So you'll have the window sash and then a wide board around the window and that goes out to the corner boards. And that wide aluminum is furred ( ?) out and goes over the top of that so that you don't lose the actual casing itself. My concern is, without taking off the clapboard, you're going to have to come over the top of the corner boards and all the window trim with trim again, otherwise it's not going to look right. There's no way to terminate that cement board at the edge otherwise your casing board is back. Are you 7 following what I'm explaining? Because right now the edge of the clapboard follows to the edge of that casing, that's how they work, and the aluminum is on top of that. Taking off the aluminum you'll have all that back. There's noway to put more clapboard - whether it's clapboard or cement board or whatever new material over the existing clapboard and have it work with the corners and the trim on the siding around the windows. Does that make any sense? Maradik: Yeah, I think it does. Zeiger: And so I've just seen enough of these sort of these types of aluminum siding installations that we just know what it's going to look like. It's all going to be there except for the crown above the window, that's going to be lost. So if we're... it's a question as much as a comment 1 was just curious how you're going to install it, and my assumption is, and it needs to be clarified, you're going to have to put new strips down the front, and deal with all that trim somehow. It gets complicated after some time. I do have a couple of questions about the Cushing Street thing since you mentioned Landmarks. It's kind of surprising, especially two years, that's pretty radical, that tells me something else is going on with that house. Does it have blown -in insulation? Maradik: No. Zeiger: That's really bizarre. Who was the contractor? Maradik: I don't know. Zeiger: I'd be really curious, if you could let me know, I'd be curious to follow up on that. It's not... Maradik: Wait, I actually do know, it was Home Works, but they've gone bankrupt. Zeiger: There you go. So, I just, I'm suspect of that job because something isn't right there and NNNsaying that followed the specifications to the letter, I...two years to have a paint failure, less than two years for it to fail tells me that Home Works didn't do what they said that they were going to do. There's just no way, that if you do what we say, that in a year that paint falls off the house. Sporleder: Can I jump in there? 1 was going to ask a similar question. What was the subsurface that they painted? Did they take it back down to the original wood and then refinish it, or did they paint on top of whatever siding was there. Maradik: I believe it went back down. Klucczinski: And what was the grade of primer? Zeiger: I think that there's a lot of questions, I'm not sure, I guess we can talk about that, for the petitioner, I don't know maybe it is, maybe it isn't germane to this. 1 would like to follow up on that. Sporleder: I think that what we're leading to on that is taking the aluminum siding off, so you don't know what you've got until you see what you've got. But if you're intending to take the aluminum siding off, why are you taking it of. Maradik: Because the NNW is rehabbing the entire property to sell, so that kind of goes back to what Catherine had said previously we'd gotten a C of A for all of those other items. So, we're just coming back now to put on the cement board. Sporleder: I guess that I concur with what both Tim and Todd were saying, we need to see what's there before we approve the cement board. I don't have any problem approving the cement board once we understand what we're dealing with and how it's going to be handled. Klusczinski: Is it fair to say, and certainly staff should chime in on this, that if we give them approval to take the aluminum siding off and the AWN would have every intention of removing the aluminum siding no matter what they were going to do, that that's probably something that we could all agree to, would they offer the house for sale with the aluminum siding on? Maradik: That would be something that would have to be considered. Klusczinski: Ok. For our purposes, at least whenever possible the original building materials should be restored. In order to evaluate what's under that aluminum, is there a way Shawn, within this C of A that we might be able to consider and rework it to at least give them the option to at least remove the aluminum sidingfor an evaluation and then the HPC staff could go there and chime in on the condition of the clapboard? Peterson: I guess what you're asking is if you take it off, just take it off, and leave it to staff to approve, that is you would approve it if they find "x" then you could in a sense, with their consent, operate in that fashion. I think that there's a little more consensus in removing only the aluminum and not make any findings on what to do next. My question is which of those two are you leaning towards? The one where you approve subject to a staff determination, or do you want them to come back to you to make a final determination on what's going to happen after it's removed? Klusczinski: The way that it would play out in my mind is that first of all, and with respect for the petitioner, I'm not sure that we have enough information right now so that we can understand and interpret the other case example that they gave to lend itself to failure in this case. 1 think that there are a number of other things happening. I'm willing to put that on the back burner for the time being. All paint jobs won't fail, and I know that despite having one clear example for whatever reason it did. So what I would like to do is somehow craft a motion after public hearing of course, that we would give them the allowance to take off the aluminum siding and certainly staff could go over there and make an evaluation. If they did not want to paint at that point and preserve the original elements of the building, then they would have to come back and we would entertain whatever cladding they wanted at that point. I just don't think that we know enough now, we're trying to second guess too many things. Peterson: Right, exactly. I think that's what you're getting at. This application appears to be incomplete in the sense that there's not enough information on it to make the determination. That said, is the AWN willing to modify its application to provide for the removal of the aluminum siding only, because as it is, otherwise we have to table it and with their consent go beyond the 30 day requirement and consider it at the next meeting and hopefully at that time have more information. Klusczinski: And again, as Liz mentioned, it might be at the Board's pleasure that they want to leave the aluminum siding in tact and maybe not go ahead with the exploration so that's certainly an option for the NNN. Peterson: Are you willing to extend your, I guess, those are the options... Klusczinski: Are you empowered to negotiate for the NNW as far as this C of A is concerned? Maradik: Well, I guess one of the question that we would have is if it were, if staff were to come out and evaluate it, would it have to come back to a Commission meeting to be approved? Klusczinski: I think that new siding, anything other than paint, would have to come back for approval. Maradik: Ok, just because I know that work has already started and this is a potential site for Arts Cafe this year so they want to make things happen as soon as possible. Zeiger: I have some comments when 1 get to the Commission side, it's probably not for conversation with the applicant. Sporleder: Relative to that, if we approve the other siding, I think that I would concur with what Todd was saying that I think that we'd need some details on how the trim and the siding were going to mesh, so that we have a clear understanding of how that was to be done because at the moment, it's an unknown aspect. You don't know it either, none of us know how the siding meets trim, if there is any trim, and if there's no trim then what do we do. A small detail of that would be helpful in how that's going to be handled. I would feel personally more comfortable approving the other siding once I understood that we all knew how it was going to be done. Klusczinski: Sure. We've kind of rolled into Commission discussion on the topic, is there, or are there any other comments from... Zeiger: Yeah, I'll just throw it out there. I'm not opposed to the cement board siding at all, I don't like, personally, I'm not being disrespectful to your opinion, but this is an a opportunity to get this house to look more like it did originally and I would really hate to see the aluminum stay on it. I'm not opposed, I just want to know those details in the corners and part of me is saying if it's going to get resided, this cement board is going to outlast clapboards because of the material of what it is. We should just allow those clapboards to be taken off, so that those corners can match. Klusczinski: Which is a whole different C of A. Zeiger: That's what I'm suggesting, rather than re -clad this, I'm not comfortable with putting another layer of siding, be it cement board or cedar or whatever it is, over the existing siding over it. It just doesn't work visually, though 1'd be.. Klusczinski: And 1 would concur with that. Zeiger: I'd be more disposed to say leave the trim around the windows and the corner boards which I'm going to bet, that they're there, they may not be, I'd be really surprised, but Sporleder: You know the cornice is gone and the sill is gone. Zeiger: The crown and the projects. But if you're going to go to that extent and that cost of cement board then the clapboard needs to come off because you're just not going to make it work. We approve that when clapboard has got so many layers of paint and you've got lead issues and all that, so you take it off and re -side it in something that matches i.e. cement board. Klusczinski: Is there every an alternate use for used clapboard? Zeiger: No, there's so much lead on them and paint, nail holes and splits and that. You can't get it off. Unless someone wanted to come behind and wanted to salvage it. I just want to leave that on the table from my standpoint, I'm not opposed to the cement board but I just want to be sure that it's installed properly so in 30 years someone doesn't go what the heck were they thinking when they find an extra layer there. Doesn't make sense to me. Sporleder: I have one more question. Is this house insulated? Maradik: I do not know. Klusczinski: Will it be? Maradik: If it's currently not, then it probably wouldn't be. Klusczinski: Do they gut the inner walls, do they put a vapor barrier? Maradik: I'm not positive about that. Klusczinski: Very good. Chair opens public hearing. Is there any member of the public willing to speak in support of the current petition? Hearing none. Any member willing to speak in opposition? Also hearing none. Chair closes public hearing. Any other comments? Any other discussion topics from the Commission body? Sporleder: What are we thinking of doing? Klusczinski: Well, we can entertain that at this venture. I think that I'm only comfortable at this point, and this is only me speaking, to permit the NNW ability to remove the original aluminum siding, and then make the determination at that point if they want to paint or if the original siding has to comedown which is an additional - expenditure for them, so maybe this is something that they want to consider too. Perhaps they'd want to re propose new siding in place of maybe the original clapboard or not maybe at some point propose the exact same thing. I'm just trying to propose some options, maybe for the purposes of exploration, maybe let you see what's underneath it and deal with it f it's the NNN's pleasure to do so. That would be my thoughts on this whole thing so that any of the variables that we don't have answers on this whole thing tonight, we could determine at some other point after we've been able to see it. Choitz: Are you talking about tabling it for now? Klusczinski: Well, giving them... making it halfgood. Allowing them to take off aluminum if they want to do so, but... Sporleder: Do they need to, uh submit... Klusczinski: Liz would need to answer right now for the AM Sporleder: They need to amend their application if we want to go your route 10 Klusczinski:Right. And she would have to negotiate that, or if these things are bound and you're not at liberty to do that then our only option at that point would be to deny the whole thing, which does not even give them the ability to take off the siding. Those are the options. Sporleder: So we still don't know anything? Klusczinski: We still don't know anything, but we'll allow the NNW make their decision on whether or not they want to take the aluminum siding off and go further which they would have to do in any case. Peterson: As a pragmatic, can they look under the siding without a C of A? Do you need to pull some off in order to assess... Zeiger: There's no way to pull it without taking it off.' The way it's installed you've got to start at the top and work your way down. Klusczinski: To do a sample in an area? It wouldn't be a complete picture of what the structure would look like anyway, so I'm not sure that we would be comfortable with that because it would be a sample spot Sporleder: And we need to see what's happening with the trim. Zeiger: To expedite things, one of the recommendations to the staff was to give them, the Commission could approve the removal of the siding and then refer it to Standards and Maintenance for final action, with regard for paint versus siding so that we don't have to make them wait till next month. To me, I'm comfortable with that, we can take a look at it and then work out something with regard to the siding. Klusczinski: You would have to agree to an amendment on this to allow for the removal of the siding and then we would have, in an additional motion, charge the Standards and Maintenance Committee with that action. Zeiger: Between now and the next Commission meeting, so that keeps you moving forward in that way. Maradik: Ok. Peterson: And they would have to meet to make that action. Patrick: We could meet onsite. Peterson: But if you're going to make a determination then that's an actual meeting. Klusczinski: Yes it is. It would have to be publicly notified. Patrick: We could do that. Peterson: A committee can't take final action, so what you'll be doing is approving, with her consent, approving the application for the removal, and then amend the applications to reflect whatever the committee does. So your approval will be an approval of something, so whatever the committee is charged with they'll have that leverage to do one or the other, and you can't revoke that charge. If otherpeople don't like what Standards and Maintenance decide with regards to wood or siding or whatever they decide, you will not be able to revoke that approval because this is, in a sense, your final action. Klusczinski: Can this Commission charge the Standards and Maintenance committee with that power with our by -laws. Zeiger: Mm -hmm. Sporleder: We've done it before. Peterson: It's just like with staff, you can give them guidance with 'here are your boundaries', that's why I said that when you approve it, it's a final approval. And it's within their boundaries to say what goes on underneath it, and you've listed those options- the cement, the painting or the same siding, those are the three things and now it's up to them to determine which of those based on upon evidence. They will have the opportunity to come to that committee meeting, basically the same thing as here, giving them guidance on what they can or can not do. But your approval will be final tonight if that's what you do. If not, you can just wait till the next meeting to make that second determination. 11 Klusczinski: Or I guess the alternative plan would be that we could charge Standards and Maintenance committee with an investigation on site and then we could have a special meeting convening if the Arts Cafe is a problem with the schedule or something so that we don't throw them off. . Peterson: And that may be the most appropriate thing to do is to have a meeting with a quorum, a special meeting of the Commission if that's your desire. Klusczinski: That way Standards and Maintenance gets the footwork done and they're not... Peterson: And they can report their findings at the next meeting. Klusczinski: Well very good. So,... Peterson: Is that something that you're willing to amend? Amend your C of A to provide for that? Maradik: Yeah. Sporleder: And let the minutes reflect that she has agreed to the amendment. Peterson: To provide for the approval of the removal of aluminum siding and seek a subsequent action of whether or not to paint, aluminum siding, or if the cement structure is appropriate. Klusczinski: Ok, very good. Zeiger: So moved. Klusczinski: Excellent. Chase: Second. Klusczinski: Any additional discussion? Then we vote. All in favor? Sporleder: It needs to be designated what application that we're talking about here. Hostetler: 2007- 0806B. Klusczinski: It helps Amy so that she doesn't have to rewind the tape so far. Herdman: Oh, don't worry about that now. Klusczinski: All in favor? (Ayes are heard) All opposed? (Silence) Motion carries. Zeiger: Note for staff, when you, I'd be interested, in attending the Standards and Maintenance Committee, when you're ready, I'd be happy to help out with that. Hostetler: Absolutely. Moved: Zeiger Second: Chase Amended C of A 2007 -0806B Approved Unanimously Application Number: 2007 -0806C Property Location: 730 Leland Property Owner: NNN Landmark or District Designation: Chapin Park LHD Rating: Non contributing STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCEMISTORIC CONTEXT: Formerly 706 Leland, this Queen Anne house was built by 1894 probably for John Beyrer and his wife Flora. Mr. Beyrer was a contractor and gravel roofer for Ford Roofing Co and later established his own successful firm. John Beyrer and Sons Roofing Company roofed many of the Studebaker and Oliver plant buildings by 1922. APPLICATION ITEMS: 1. The existing windows have been previously replaced. The NNN will remove the existing windows and replace them with a Kolbe and Kolbe wood replacement window. 2. A number of additions to the structure will be removed in order to return the property back to its original footprints. This includes the removal of an addition of an enclosed stairway of the south side of the structure, the removal of the rear entrance, including addition and stairway on the north side of the structure and the removal of the addition to the wall on the west of the southeast porch, return to the original house wall. (See Attachment C.) After the additions are removed, the structure's roof line will be returned to the original roof line. 3. All existing roofing materials will be removed and a new 30 year architectural grade shingle will be applied. 4. The existing front porch will be removed including foundation. The porch will be replaced with a wood, tongue and grove flooring, bead board ceiling, 12 columns and spindles similar to existing neighborhood housing stock. 5. The existing aluminum siding will be removed. The siding will be replaced with a smooth cement fiber product to match lap, width and texture of the original siding. 6. The existing gutter will be removed and a new gutter system will be installed to match the renovations. STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES: II Existing Structures A. Building Materials Original exterior building materials in the district include brick, stucco, clapboard, wood shingles and brick or stone masonry. In some instances vinyl, composite and aluminum siding have been applied over the original material Required: Original exterior building materials shall be retained when possible. Deterioration of wood materials shall be presented though repair, cleaning and painting. The existing architectural detail around windows, porches, doors and eaves shall be retained or replaced by replicas of the same design when deteriorated beyond repair.... Recommended: Whenever possible, the original building materials should be restored. When maintaining or repairing original siding is not feasible aluminum, vinyl or composite siding may be used. When used over wood surfaces, the siding should be the same size and style as the original wood. Every effort should be made to retain original trim around windows, doors, cornices, gables, eaves and other architectural features.... B. Roofs and Roofing: Recommended: The original shape and materials of the roof should be restored. Roof covering which is deteriorated beyond repair should be replaced with new material that matches as closely as possible the original in composition, size, shape, color and texture. Gutters and downspouts are often a necessary adjunct in order to prevent deterioration of the structure; they should be maintained whenever possible or replaced with a style comparable and suitable to the architectural period. C. Windows and Doors: Required: Original windows and doors shall be retained including sashes, sills, shutters, decorative glass, pediments, hoods and hardware. When deteriorated beyond repair, they shall be replaced with units and trim resembling the original. Prohibited: Original doors, windows and hardware shall not be discarded when they can be restored and reused in place. New windows and door openings, which would alter the scale and proportion of the building may not be introduced. Inappropriate new window and door features such as metal, vinyl or fiberglass awnings, hoods or aluminum insulating glass combinations that require removal of original windows and doors shall not be installed. STAFF RECOMMENDATION: #1. Staff does not recommend approval of this item as the windows appear to be original and only the storm windows are aluminum replacements. The original wood windows can be restored in place and new storm windows applied. #2. Staff recommends approval to the removal of the non original additions to the house footprint and the roof line. #3. Staff recommends approval of the complete tear off and re -roof. #4. Staff recommends approval of the porch restoration along the length and depth of the perceived original porch along the front of the house and its return to a style compatible to the age and style of the house and neighborhood. #5. Staff can not make a recommendation as it does not know the condition of the original material and can not make a determination at this time. Staff requests that it be allowed to work with NNN to make recommendations and return its recommendation to either the Standards and Maintenance Committee or the Commission. #6. Staff recommends approval of the replacement gutters and downspouts. Klusczinski: Is the petitioner present? Maradik: Yes. Klusczinski: State your name and address for the record please. Maradik: Liz Maradik, City resident planner, MMM 1007 Portage Avenue. There's two items that I'd like to briefly discuss. The first one, the siding the cement board, and I'll move along to the next one. The windows that we're wanting to replace there, the house will consist of approximately 25 windows after the reconfiguration of the structure. While all of the windows are of an old vintage, they do not all match and are not all original or in their original opening. Of these windows at least 15 are of contrasting 13 styles including a variety of different lock sets, casings, and thickness offrame. This leads the AWN to believe that although the windows are older, they are not the original windows. This would be a natural occurrence in a single family house that was divided into four apartment units by the owner. They moved walls, windows, stairs and created additional kitchens and bathrooms. The AWN requests an in -kind replacement of the Kolbe and Kolbe wood replacement windows. AWN recognizes the staff recommendation to rework the windows in place, however the AWN would like to encourage the Commission to consider the requested in -kind replacements due to the time that it takes and the financial burden to re -work the existing windows. For example, the NNW has an estimate for a house in the neighborhood in a comparable state of disrepair, for storms with removable glass and screen inserts for a total of $3320.00 for two windows with a minimum four month turn around time. The cost to rework the window highly outweighs the cost of a similar replacement window. In addition to the cost difference, the difference in the amount of time that it takes to re -work the window is not conducive to the NNNproject timetable. The AWN has attempted to use HPC recommended contractors but they are not in the position to take on this size ofproject and maintain their existing business. The average project time table for the NNN is 90 days from start to finish, and re- working the windows would extend the project a minimum of another six months if a contractor would even be willing to take on the work. The Kolbe and Kolbe windows have been used in countless historic applications, such as the transformation of Camden station in Baltimore, and the NNNfeels that they would be an accurate historical in -kind replacement and a dramatic improvement to the structure. If there are any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. Sporleder: Excuse me, Kolbe windows are insulated glass? Maradik: Yes, I believe they're double pane windows, yes. Sporleder: And the screens go where? Maradik: Yes, I'm sure that they have screens. Zeiger: They just fit in in front of the window. Klusczinski: What would be the cost barrier of having window restoration done on windows that it would be appropriate to do that on? I know that $1500 seems outrageous and I'm not sure that I agree with it that it should ever be paid and that it's very accurate way of assessing whether or not a window can be restored. We have a local school corporation that believes in elevating some prices on some things to justify new construction so we have that, but as far as I'm concerned what would be reasonable, and have you entertained any other estimates from any other contractors. Maradik: That one quote was received, and they did talk to other contractors to try to get quotes but it went back to the fact that the project was too large in scope and that they weren't able to do the project because they wouldn't be able to carry on their current business and complete that project. So no other quotes were received to my knowledge. Klusczinski: Fair enough. It seems to me that there is some kind of a difference of opinion from the staff recommendation because the staff reports that the windows appear to be original and that only the storm windows are aluminum replacement. On the AWN side, some of the windows may be in the original locations, a lot of them have been changed or altered at later times. Maradik: Yeah, I believe that some of them aren't even in their original locations and things have probably been added as it was changed into a 4 unit apartment and that's what it is now before it's going to be turned back into a single family. Choitz: When you make these rather drastic changes in the stairwells and all that, how many old windows that may be in those old pieces are going to be discarded? Maradik: I don't know for sure, but I don't believe that any of the original windows are within those elements that might be extended. Patrick: Is there anyone else more knowledgeable about these houses than yourse? Maradik: Yes, I'm sure there is. 14 Patrick: And who might that be? Maradik: The property development specialist on staff or even Karen Ainsley the Executive Director. Patrick: Who's the property development specialist on stajj? Maradik: His name is Jeff Stanifer (sp ?). Patrick: Is there a reason why he's not here tonight? Maradik: He could not make it tonight. Zeiger: Just curious do you know who put the bid in for the windows? Maradik: I believe his name is Steven... Zeiger: Schoberg? Maradik: Yes, I believe that's right. Zeiger: Just for the Commission's information I had another project, similar size bid, and he was about, when you factor in storm windows, pretty close. Klusczinski: Wow, outrageous. Any other discussion? Sporleder: Not that it's relevant, but Ijust spent the last two weeks restoring two double hung windows in my house and I probably should disqualify myself from further discussions because I have an absolutely hate for those windows. Klusczinski: So you're not an expert? Sporleder: I am an absolute expert in every detail of restoring double hung windows. Zeiger: I have a question about the Kolbe and Kolbe units are these the one with just the jamb liner, in other words they're just sash and they have a liner on the side? Are you familiar with the actual package? It would be helpful to have a clarification on that at least as follow up information, so if we do approve that, we'd at least know what we're talking about. I would not be in favor of a unit that's coming in with an entirely new frame which sometimes they do. Kolbe makes a sash kit that you are essentially swapping out the sash but leaving the jambs and everything else in place, a pretty slick system in that regard, and wouldn't diminish the size of the opening and/or the window so from the exterior you don't notice anything different, the front stop stays the same- it's pretty slick. Marvin makes them, others make them, but since you're using Kolbe 1 just mentioned them. Klusczinski: Very good. Any other discussion? Sporleder: Are we going to try to treat this as the other one? Zeiger: With regard to the siding? Sporleder: Are we giving permission to do everything? Klusczinski: I'm not sure that we can do that until we get the public's input on it. Zeiger: Got to get the public in on it. Klusczinski: With that, I open public hearing, is there any member of the public wishing to speak in support of the petition? Hearing none, is there any member of the public wishing to speak in opposition? I close public hearing. I had a brilliant idea that we should try to mirror the other proposal as far as the siding goes... Sporleder: Sounds good to me. Klusczinski: Does stafffeel the need to defend their opinion on the condition of the original windows as candidates for restoration? Maybe what we need to do is charge Standards and Maintenance with making an investigation on site for this one as well, and brings that determination here pending any replacement option. Hostetler: We were not aware.... Wayne went out and took pictures of them and it appeared that the storms were aluminum but that everything else appeared to be original from the photographs. I don't see any reason why we couldn't all go out and look at them. Doolittle: The inspection was done from the outside, and the second story windows I couldn't really see. I'm sure that there were some that were added, but they're all wood and all double hung. They had many layers of paint and that's what lead me to say that they're original windows, they're really alligatored and they need a lot of work to do that but my objection was that I think that they're original. Some others may have been 15 added, but at the time that they were added they're very similar to the ones that you've got elsewhere, In other words, they're all wood. I'm sure some were covered up, those we don't know about. I was going on an outside visual inspection of the down stairs. Klusczinski: Sure, ok. Sporleder: So to restore the existing original windows whatever ones they are since they have aluminum storm windows on them, I assume that there are no wood storms left. So even if they're restored, new wood storms /screen windows would have to be made, so that would be an additional expense. Zeiger: We all know that I'm not the window guy, but I can tell you from recent experience with Schoberg and others, we have a capacity issue with their ability to show up and do the job. If we had 12 contractors, it would be a different job, Schoberg bid a couple of things for us and said basically `I may be there in the spring" because he's just so busy. I'm just saying that I understand the frustration with capacity. I just share that with the Commission that we have a capacity issue and that we can teach home owners how to do it. I'm just concerned that at some point we need to address the capacity issue. Ninety days is pretty fast, but even so, it just takes more time. Klusczinski: Very good. I'll entertain a motion from anyone brave enough to offer one. Zeiger: Has the applicant agreed to modem the application similar to the other one? Maradik: Just to remove... Klusczinski: And there's a window condition- whether or not the Commission decides that the windows need to be evaluated in the same manner as the siding or not should be part of the motion. If it is, then we charge Standards and Maintenance with their findings. Zeiger: I'll make the motion to approve 2007 -0806C as amended with regard to siding aspect so long as the Kolbe and Kolbe windows are the sash kit and not another type window that would reduce the size of the opening itself. Sporleder: I'll second the motion. Peterson: For the record, she has to agree to that as well. Klusczinski: We're not telling you that it has to be Kolbe and Kolbe... Peterson: Let the record show that she amended to allow consistent with your motion. Klusczinski: There's a motion on the floor, do we have a second? Sporleder: I did. Klusczinski: Oh, I'm sorry Joann. Any more discussion? All in favor? (Ayes are heard) Opposed? (Silence) B. LANDMARKS — None. H. REGULAR BUSINESS The Chair entertained a motion to suspend the published agenda to allow for a scheduled presentation on behalf of the Thermolite Company of South Bend. Moved: Patrick Second: Patrick Approved Unanimously Mr. Ken Hanson and Mr. Eric Kus of Thermolite made a presentation to the Commission at the invitation of the Chair. Thermolite is a locally made window product that may represent a good alternative in preservation as their product is an thin profile, interior storm that can preserve the outward appearance of a structure while providing the home owner with greater energy efficiency. A. APPROVAL OF AMENDED MINUTES July 16, 2007 Moved: Hostetler Second: Patrick Approved Unanimously B. TREASURER'S REPORT Accepted into record as presented. C. STAFF REPORTS 1. Correspondence 16 None. 2. Director — Catherine Hostetler Distributed to Commission. 3. Assistant Director — Amy Herdman Distributed to Commission. 4. Legal Counsel — Shawn Peterson Counsel presented the contract agreement between the City of South Bend and the HPC in the amount of $25,000. A motion to accept the contract passed unanimously, and was signed by President Klusczinski. Moved: Zeiger Second: Chase Approved Unanimously D. COMMITTEE REPORTS 1. President's Report — Tim Klusczinski 7/24/07 Sent HPC response to South Bend Tribune "Our Opinion" editorial "Preservation a matter of time" (07/20/07). Submission was originally entitled: Marquette: Enduring the PAST and PRESS -ent ". Tribune later changed this to "Commission has acted appropriately to save Marquette" when published as "Michiana Point of View" feature (08/03/07). Most other article content remained unaffected. 7/29/07 City Celebration: Cabin Days I visited Leeper Park East to scope out the events at the Navarre Cabin and took event pictures for the next "Commission Courier." Mr. Navarre was not at home when I stopped in. Instead, I did find Mr. Alexis Coquillard - his financial backer. Mr. Coquillard spoke about the local fur - trapping industry, the river, and some of the environmental challenges. He was also in favor of a formal name for the area... something like "Southhold ?" Seems like a fine idea to me. Maybe it'll catch on... Attendees, especially the children seemed to be having a GREAT time, despite the HOT and sunny climate. The campfire seemed almost, unnecessary. Activities included a show -n -tell on period tools, candle making, and interaction with the players dressed in period attire. I wish to thank the Center for History and the City of South Bend for their partnership, dedication and effort in promoting our local history. 8/3/07 12:53PM: Observed construction project at 318 W. Navarre Street (Chapin Park) where basement windows had been removed from openings and damaged beyond repair. A "Bobcat" was parked in the back yard. I spoke to Mike Balmer and Mike Brzezinski who were performing the work. No documentation was displayed in the windows, so I asked the men to show me the permits for the work. They said "we don't know anything about that" and "that would be Richard. " When I inquired further, they admitted that Richard Guntle of Home Service was the General Contractor. Bruno owned the Bobcat equipment and was contracted by Richard. Mr. Balmer called Richard on his cell phone to inform him that "someone from the city was asking about permits." Mr. Balmer relayed that Richard was in the process of getting one. I asked both men if they were employees of Richard, they said "no." They said they were doing the work for "Collier's Glass Block." I inquired if they were employees of "Collier's Glass Block," they said "no." I suggested that that would make them "subs ?" They agreed. I asked for their company name. They couldn't offer one and stated that they were doing the work "independently." I asked if they were licensed, bonded and insured. Mike Brzezinski said "no." Mike Balmer interrupted and said "yeah." Although they were unable to substantiate their status, at that time. I informed the men that they were performing work in the Chapin Park Local Historic District. That the Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend and St. Joseph County must approve work that changes exterior features. I also mentioned that" if' the project had not been reported to the HPC, it "would be" a violation of the ordinance. I told the men that I am compelled to report this activity to the HPC. The Building Department would also learn about it. I admitted 17 that I could not tell them how to proceed (full open -air access to the basement level, destroyed original windows and new glass -block units ready for installation), but it would be in their best interest to obtain the necessary permits right away. I provided them with my card and indicated the HPC staff address and telephone number. 8/13/07 Attended Marquette Primary Center Open House to hear Dr. Zimmerman, Superintendent SBCSC address the congregation on the building's status with regard to the Local Landmark designation procedure or consequences from a successful public bond issue remonstrance process. Dr. Zimmerman apologized for the hot summer temperatures in the auditorium and promised that water would be available for the children during this time, now that they were in session. He went on to advise the public that both landmarking and the remonstrance would ultimately prevent planned improvements for the building — improvements realized from a new facility. And that the current bond issue ONLY supported a new Marquette facility — NOT a rehabbed building. Since Local Landmark status would also prevent demolition of the current structure it would most likely halt the plan. It was inferred that there would be no other improvements suggested, if the current construction plan was derailed. It spoke directly against Landmark protection. Finally, Dr. Zimmerman outlined the public process and solicited the audience' support to achieve its goals. III. OLD BUSINESS VP Patrick reported that her previous contact with which she was exploring HPC branded coffee has left the area to attend school. VP Patrick will be pursuing other vendors. IV. NEW BUSINESS V. HEARING OF VISITORS Don Sporleder reminded all in attendance that the Highland Games /Celtic Fest would be held September 8 Mr. Sporleder also reminded the HPC of the imminent destruction of the University' Club on the ND campus. The last day of service for members is September 22, during Michigan State weekend. ADJOURNMENT 9:07 pm Moved: Hostetler Second: Patrick Approved: Unanimously A est: I Todd ger, Date Secretary, Histori reservation Commission of South Bend & St. Joseph County W.